Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

I've just put down a refundable deposit on this 2005
Beneteau 473 so please let me know if you think this
is a good buy.

This boat is quite well-equipped and is almost like new
and I can buy her for just under $300,000. The previous
owner only took one short trip and decided to trade her in
for a larger boat. According to a recent survey this boat is
worth $310,000 and has a replacement value of $380,000.

I've put the specs and pictures on my new web site at

http://beneteau473.tripod.com

This boat may not be as good as a Tayana or a Catalina
for crossing an ocean but at this point I don't even know
if I'll ever have a chance to do this because my cats may
get seasick. For sailing around here (California) or even
going to the East Coast or the Bahamas I'm sure she will
do just fine.

One small problem is that there isn't a good place to put
a combo washer and dryer.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

is that a swim platform where the
stern belongs??.....

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

What does Olive Oil say about it?

wrote:
I've just put down a refundable deposit on this 2005
Beneteau 473 so please let me know if you think this
is a good buy.

This boat is quite well-equipped and is almost like new
and I can buy her for just under $300,000. The previous
owner only took one short trip and decided to trade her in
for a larger boat. According to a recent survey this boat is
worth $310,000 and has a replacement value of $380,000.

I've put the specs and pictures on my new web site at

http://beneteau473.tripod.com

This boat may not be as good as a Tayana or a Catalina
for crossing an ocean but at this point I don't even know
if I'll ever have a chance to do this because my cats may
get seasick. For sailing around here (California) or even
going to the East Coast or the Bahamas I'm sure she will
do just fine.

One small problem is that there isn't a good place to put
a combo washer and dryer.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 20:47:45 GMT, wrote:


I've just put down a refundable deposit on this 2005
Beneteau 473 so please let me know if you think this
is a good buy.

This boat is quite well-equipped and is almost like new
and I can buy her for just under $300,000. The previous
owner only took one short trip and decided to trade her in
for a larger boat. According to a recent survey this boat is
worth $310,000 and has a replacement value of $380,000.

I've put the specs and pictures on my new web site at

http://beneteau473.tripod.com
///
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


Seems like you are proposing to pay too close to the survey.
Wouldn't paying $262,000 feel better to you?
[There are plenty more if the seller won't move....]

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

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Jeff wrote:
What does Olive Oil say about it?

wrote:

I've just put down a refundable deposit on this 2005
Beneteau 473 so please let me know if you think this
is a good buy.

This boat is quite well-equipped and is almost like new
and I can buy her for just under $300,000. The previous
owner only took one short trip and decided to trade her in
for a larger boat. According to a recent survey this boat is
worth $310,000 and has a replacement value of $380,000.

I've put the specs and pictures on my new web site at

http://beneteau473.tripod.com

This boat may not be as good as a Tayana or a Catalina
for crossing an ocean but at this point I don't even know
if I'll ever have a chance to do this because my cats may
get seasick. For sailing around here (California) or even
going to the East Coast or the Bahamas I'm sure she will
do just fine.

One small problem is that there isn't a good place to put
a combo washer and dryer.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
It's a great looking boat but Yachtworld has several with an average
price of about 269k. If the one you are looking at is Joie de Vivre, it
is the most expensive! I think that I'd look at the others before
committing. Although it is a 2005, it's not new. Let someone else take
the hit. Of course if money doesn't matter.......it's a fine boat for
your cats.

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

Gary wrote:
It's a great looking boat but Yachtworld has several with an average
price of about 269k. If the one you are looking at is Joie de Vivre,
it is the most expensive! I think that I'd look at the others before
committing. Although it is a 2005, it's not new. Let someone else take
the hit. Of course if money doesn't matter.......it's a fine boat for
your cats.

You can actually see the name Joie de Vivre in some of the pictures
on my web site :-) I first saw this boat at yachtworld.com. At that time
somebody else had an offer pending but it just fell through last week.

The other Beneteau 473's in the U.S. that are listed for less are all
older (and mostly on the East Coast) and I wouldn't mind paying
10-11% more to get a 2005 model instead of 2002.

2005 $320,000 Warwick, RI

2004 $294,000 Palm Beach, FL
2004 $249,900 Mt. Clemens, MI

2003 $285,000 Newport, RI
2003 $255,000 Cape Cod, MA
2003 $254,500 Cataumet, MA

2002 $289,000 Pt Richmond, CA
2002 $269,000 Racine, WI (sale pending)
2002 $269,000 Huntington, NY
2002 $265,000 Punta Gorda, FL
2002 $265,000 San Diego, CA (2-cabin version)
2002 $249,900 Deltaville, VA

2000 $269,000 Milwaukee, WI

But now the Tayana dealer is working on a deal for me for
a new Tayana Vancouver 460 Pilot which will also include
a live-aboard slip. I may even go for this one even if it costs
$100,000 more and comes with less equipments because you
normally have to wait a couple of years to get a live-aboard
slip here in San Diego.

As mentioned earlier I also have pictures of this Tayana
on the web at http://tayana46.tripod.com

The Beneteau dealer says that this Tayana is heavy and slow
(and top heavy) but I think the consensus here is that Tayana
is a better bluewater boat than Beneteau.

Thanks again for all the suggestions. I'll let you know if
I actually decide to buy something next week.

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 20:47:45 GMT, wrote:


I've just put down a refundable deposit on this 2005
Beneteau 473 so please let me know if you think this
is a good buy.

This boat is quite well-equipped and is almost like new
and I can buy her for just under $300,000. The previous
owner only took one short trip and decided to trade her in
for a larger boat. According to a recent survey this boat is
worth $310,000 and has a replacement value of $380,000.

I've put the specs and pictures on my new web site at

http://beneteau473.tripod.com

This boat may not be as good as a Tayana or a Catalina
for crossing an ocean but at this point I don't even know
if I'll ever have a chance to do this because my cats may
get seasick. For sailing around here (California) or even
going to the East Coast or the Bahamas I'm sure she will
do just fine.

One small problem is that there isn't a good place to put
a combo washer and dryer.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


I'm not a sail person but the principle of asking for permission to by
a boat seems quite odd to me. Personally, I would have done much
research and then asked the group for confirmation or denigration of
what I decided.

I plan on doing this for a power boat in the future. I will have lots
of homework done before making a posting.

Either way, good sailing!


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

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Poopie:

Silly boy. Put the combo washer and dryer on the foredeck! That way the
noise won't bother you as much at night. And, be sure to balance them
athwart-ships so Olive Oil will not find the dryer out of balance while
under way!

I think you should offer the broker a couple extra thousand to secure the
deal. You don't want this baby getting away from you. It will look real nice
on that private dock down in the South Pacific.

And lastly, did you finally decide against the tennis court?

Cheers,

Whimpie

wrote in message
k.net...

I've just put down a refundable deposit on this 2005
Beneteau 473 so please let me know if you think this
is a good buy.

This boat is quite well-equipped and is almost like new
and I can buy her for just under $300,000. The previous
owner only took one short trip and decided to trade her in
for a larger boat. According to a recent survey this boat is
worth $310,000 and has a replacement value of $380,000.

I've put the specs and pictures on my new web site at

http://beneteau473.tripod.com

This boat may not be as good as a Tayana or a Catalina
for crossing an ocean but at this point I don't even know
if I'll ever have a chance to do this because my cats may
get seasick. For sailing around here (California) or even
going to the East Coast or the Bahamas I'm sure she will
do just fine.

One small problem is that there isn't a good place to put
a combo washer and dryer.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

Gary G see.signature@bottom wrote:

I'm not a sail person but the principle of asking
for permission to by a boat seems quite odd to me.
Personally, I would have done much research and then
asked the group for confirmation or denigration of
what I decided.

I plan on doing this for a power boat in the future.
I will have lots of homework done before making a posting.

Either way, good sailing!

Thanks Gary. I didn't have a lot of time to do a research
because somebody else's offer just fell through last week.
There are also other people who are interested in this boat
and I don't see another Beneteau 473 with 3 cabins on the
market which is almost new and located on the West Coast.

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

Jeff wrote:
What does Olive Oil say about it?

She wants a washer/dryer combo on board
so I may have to go with the Tayana :-)

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

"Danny" wrote:
Poopie:

Silly boy. Put the combo washer and dryer on the foredeck!
That way the noise won't bother you as much at night. And,
be sure to balance them athwart-ships so Olive Oil will not
find the dryer out of balance while under way!

I've thought about putting it in the forward compartment
(forepeak ?) like in some Catalina models but don't think
I can get it in there.

I think you should offer the broker a couple extra thousand
to secure the deal. You don't want this baby getting away
from you. It will look real nice on that private dock down
in the South Pacific.

Lanta Island is in the Indian Ocean.

And lastly, did you finally decide against the tennis court?

Just like with the washer/dryer unit I want to have an option
of installing one later.

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 09:36:22 GMT, wrote:


"Danny" wrote:
Poopie:

Silly boy. Put the combo washer and dryer on the foredeck!
That way the noise won't bother you as much at night. And,
be sure to balance them athwart-ships so Olive Oil will not
find the dryer out of balance while under way!

I've thought about putting it in the forward compartment
(forepeak ?) like in some Catalina models but don't think
I can get it in there.

I think you should offer the broker a couple extra thousand
to secure the deal. You don't want this baby getting away
from you. It will look real nice on that private dock down
in the South Pacific.

Lanta Island is in the Indian Ocean.

? I'm not certain my grade school English and geography teachers would
agree with you.

First, Koh Lanta is made of two islands, Koh Lanta Noi to the north
and Koh Lanta Yai to the south, with a ferry joining the two. E of the
Koh Lanta are a dozen or so smaller islands (Koh Po, Koh Kam Yai, Koh
Talabeng, Koh Klang, etc).

Second, the Koh Lanta twins might be better regarded as being in the
Andaman Sea.

So your sentence might be better formed as:

The Lanta islands are in the Andaman Sea.

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

Bil wrote:
wrote:
Lanta Island is in the Indian Ocean.

? I'm not certain my grade school English and geography teachers would
agree with you.

First, Koh Lanta is made of two islands, Koh Lanta Noi to the north
and Koh Lanta Yai to the south, with a ferry joining the two. E of the
Koh Lanta are a dozen or so smaller islands (Koh Po, Koh Kam Yai, Koh
Talabeng, Koh Klang, etc).

Second, the Koh Lanta twins might be better regarded as being in the
Andaman Sea.

So your sentence might be better formed as:

The Lanta islands are in the Andaman Sea.


Please tell your grade school geography teacher that Andaman Sea
is a part of the Indian Ocean (not Pacific Ocean).

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andaman_Sea

And tell your grade school English teacher that most people use
the term "Lanta Island" possibly because Lanta Yai and Lanta Noi
islands are so close to each other that they look just like one
island with a river or canal running through.

See http://www.koh-lanta-thailand.com/info/maplanta.htm

If you do a Google search for "Lanta Island" you'll get about
100,400 results whereas a search for "Lanta Islands" only gives
about 656 results.

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 13:08:39 GMT, wrote:


Bil wrote:
wrote:
Lanta Island is in the Indian Ocean.

? I'm not certain my grade school English and geography teachers would
agree with you.

First, Koh Lanta is made of two islands, Koh Lanta Noi to the north
and Koh Lanta Yai to the south, with a ferry joining the two. E of the
Koh Lanta are a dozen or so smaller islands (Koh Po, Koh Kam Yai, Koh
Talabeng, Koh Klang, etc).

Second, the Koh Lanta twins might be better regarded as being in the
Andaman Sea.

So your sentence might be better formed as:

The Lanta islands are in the Andaman Sea.


Please tell your grade school geography teacher that Andaman Sea
is a part of the Indian Ocean (not Pacific Ocean).

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andaman_Sea

My grade school geography teacher would never have argued that the
Andaman Sea was part of the Pacific! I think she would have grudgingly
accepted the notion that the Andaman S was a part of the Indian O, but
she would have argued further that the basin of the Andaman Sea is
geologically distinct from that of the Indian Ocean and much more so
than, say, the Bay of Bengal (which she accepted as a part of the
Indian O). I suspect that she was right, hence the demarcation of the
Andaman Sea made by oceanographers and cartographers.

She (Ms Pilkington) likewise argued that only unthinking fools
regarded Europe and Asia as separate continents - she said Asia and
Europe had been joined together as Eurasia longer than the Indian
subcontinent had been joined to Asia.

Ms P would not have regarded wikipedia as an authority. Why should
you?

And tell your grade school English teacher that most people use
the term "Lanta Island" possibly because Lanta Yai and Lanta Noi
islands are so close to each other that they look just like one
island with a river or canal running through.

See http://www.koh-lanta-thailand.com/info/maplanta.htm

If you do a Google search for "Lanta Island" you'll get about
100,400 results whereas a search for "Lanta Islands" only gives
about 656 results.

And my grade school English teacher (Ms Soper) would have likely
retorted that a mistake made by the majority (especially when the
'most people' to which you refer is just a majority of webpage
authors (largely writing in English, I assume) about islands in
Thailand) is not reason for doing likewise. After all, how do the
people of Thailand refer to Koh Lanta Yai and K Lanta Noi?

And Ms P would have chimed in that 10,000 years ago, the Ko Lanta
twins were not islands but just another part of the Eurasian mainland,
because the sea level was quite low then. And about five thousand
years ago, the sea level in that area was a couple of metres higher
than at present, so only Koh Lanta Yai and K Lanta Noi would have been
'further apart', to use your concept.

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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:37:29 +0800, Bil wrote:

So your sentence might be better formed as:

The Lanta islands are in the Andaman Sea.

===========================================

Wow! It sounds like you actually know what you are talking about and
have actualy been there.

Did you go in a Big Mac 26, sailing canoe, Benny Toe or a You Know? I
was thinking of going in a jet ski or love boat but don't know how
many days it would take, whether or not it should have a PVC bimini
frame, and was worried about what the neighbors might think.

Do you know where I can get free charts? I had several good charts of
that area on restaurant placemats but they were lost in a Gail (I
think she took them).

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No.. don't buy it. Not if you cant get your washer dryer onboard. And what
about the dishwasher? you forgot that didn't you.

This may prove a better alternative. You may have to spend a few pennies
more, but it will have a few more creature comforts.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/cv-63-kh-hi.jpg

DP

wrote in message
k.net...

I've just put down a refundable deposit on this 2005
Beneteau 473 so please let me know if you think this
is a good buy.

This boat is quite well-equipped and is almost like new
and I can buy her for just under $300,000. The previous
owner only took one short trip and decided to trade her in
for a larger boat. According to a recent survey this boat is
worth $310,000 and has a replacement value of $380,000.

I've put the specs and pictures on my new web site at

http://beneteau473.tripod.com

This boat may not be as good as a Tayana or a Catalina
for crossing an ocean but at this point I don't even know
if I'll ever have a chance to do this because my cats may
get seasick. For sailing around here (California) or even
going to the East Coast or the Bahamas I'm sure she will
do just fine.

One small problem is that there isn't a good place to put
a combo washer and dryer.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

And think how handy it would be in dealing with those pesky PWCs!

"d parker" wrote in message
...
No.. don't buy it. Not if you cant get your washer dryer onboard. And what
about the dishwasher? you forgot that didn't you.

This may prove a better alternative. You may have to spend a few pennies
more, but it will have a few more creature comforts.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/cv-63-kh-hi.jpg

DP

wrote in message
k.net...

I've just put down a refundable deposit on this 2005
Beneteau 473 so please let me know if you think this
is a good buy.

This boat is quite well-equipped and is almost like new
and I can buy her for just under $300,000. The previous
owner only took one short trip and decided to trade her in
for a larger boat. According to a recent survey this boat is
worth $310,000 and has a replacement value of $380,000.

I've put the specs and pictures on my new web site at

http://beneteau473.tripod.com

This boat may not be as good as a Tayana or a Catalina
for crossing an ocean but at this point I don't even know
if I'll ever have a chance to do this because my cats may
get seasick. For sailing around here (California) or even
going to the East Coast or the Bahamas I'm sure she will
do just fine.

One small problem is that there isn't a good place to put
a combo washer and dryer.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

wrote in message
k.net...

I've just put down a refundable deposit on this 2005
Beneteau 473 so please let me know if you think this
is a good buy.

Looked at 473 closely this summer (before deciding to buy a catamaran after
all) - liked them, heard good things about them, most common boat on the
ARC, world's biggest manufacturer, lots built, good reviews, as easily
resold as any boat, discount on new price.... what is there not to like, and
the spec looks OK too.

The pics show the version without the extra cupboards at the forward port
end of the saloon, but hey, more room for guests with bubbly when you aren't
sailing.

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

and the tender service is supersonic.

DP
"johnhh" wrote in message
. ..
And think how handy it would be in dealing with those pesky PWCs!

"d parker" wrote in message
...
No.. don't buy it. Not if you cant get your washer dryer onboard. And
what about the dishwasher? you forgot that didn't you.

This may prove a better alternative. You may have to spend a few pennies
more, but it will have a few more creature comforts.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/cv-63-kh-hi.jpg

DP

wrote in message
k.net...

I've just put down a refundable deposit on this 2005
Beneteau 473 so please let me know if you think this
is a good buy.

This boat is quite well-equipped and is almost like new
and I can buy her for just under $300,000. The previous
owner only took one short trip and decided to trade her in
for a larger boat. According to a recent survey this boat is
worth $310,000 and has a replacement value of $380,000.

I've put the specs and pictures on my new web site at

http://beneteau473.tripod.com

This boat may not be as good as a Tayana or a Catalina
for crossing an ocean but at this point I don't even know
if I'll ever have a chance to do this because my cats may
get seasick. For sailing around here (California) or even
going to the East Coast or the Bahamas I'm sure she will
do just fine.

One small problem is that there isn't a good place to put
a combo washer and dryer.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

Urgent ! Should I buy this Beneteau 473 ?
 

wrote:
I've just put down a refundable deposit on this 2005
Beneteau 473 so please let me know if you think this
is a good buy.

This boat is quite well-equipped and is almost like new
and I can buy her for just under $300,000. The previous
owner only took one short trip and decided to trade her in
for a larger boat. According to a recent survey this boat is
worth $310,000 and has a replacement value of $380,000.

I've put the specs and pictures on my new web site at

http://beneteau473.tripod.com

This boat may not be as good as a Tayana or a Catalina
for crossing an ocean but at this point I don't even know
if I'll ever have a chance to do this because my cats may
get seasick. For sailing around here (California) or even
going to the East Coast or the Bahamas I'm sure she will
do just fine.

One small problem is that there isn't a good place to put
a combo washer and dryer.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

I've sailed on a friends' Beneteau 50 for the past five years and am quite
impressed.
We could easily get the combo washer and drier on board by doing away with
one of the five heads/shower units!

Dennis.