Skipper wrote:
SoftComplete wrote:


Software authors have the right to deliver as number of copies as they
find relevant...


http://www.strongbit.com - Bulletproof Software Protection And License
Management !


And knowledgeable consumers have the right to boycott products employing
these user unfriendly "schemes", and to tell companies such as yours to
'shove it!'

Kindest regards,

--
Skipper

As long as they don't steal the software you're 100% correct.

Clay

I meant to make a suggestion, not really bitch - and also find out if I was
the only one so dumb not to ASK the seller about a thing I did not know at
the time, when I became so unlucky to buy the map from a dealer that did
not tell.

I think my GPSMAP188C and my GPSMAP188 and the map I have, is just great and
would certainly buy the stuff again, this time though a bit more informed.
It´s all about information is´nt it.

At my place CPH the card is ~480$ and the CD ~640$(including a card and USB
reader) I would pay the 160$ and some for the card. Maybee Garmin could lock
the second card to a specific GPSMAP serialnumber and then I should pay a
fee, say 20$, so in all about 200$ for the transaction, still saving me
280$.

Anyway it ´s my own dumb fault resulting in a not so dumb suggestion(I
think).
If I´m the only guy caught, its not even worth it.
Just info and an idea - no bitching.
Thanks for the feedback

"tvnav.com" skrev i en meddelelse
l.net...

"fen" wrote in message
k...
Darrel, thank you for your advice, about selling and re-buying.

You, beeing a Garmin seller, surely knows about consumer needs, and how
important it is to have them satisfied in the long run.

You are correct, that is our job as a Garmin dealer. Too bad that your
dealer didn't do their job or too bad that you didn't ask before buying
the wrong product for your needs/wants.

The way to do this in this case, vould be to let a costomer send in his
pre-programmed card to Garmin´s designated distributor and let this
distributor do a single copy on a card.
The blank card, the postage and a fee for programing the card of course
beeing paid for by the costomer.

I'm pretty sure that Garmin's agreement with the BlueChart folks
wouldn't allow for this but you are right, it would be worth asking or
suggesting to **Garmin** about it but it probably won't do any good to
bitch about Garmin in the newsgroups about it.
--


Darrel Goheen

http://www.tvnav.com

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 02:50:41 +0100, "fen"
wrote:

I meant to make a suggestion, not really bitch - and also find out if I was
the only one so dumb not to ASK the seller about a thing I did not know at
the time, when I became so unlucky to buy the map from a dealer that did
not tell.

I think my GPSMAP188C and my GPSMAP188 and the map I have, is just great and
would certainly buy the stuff again, this time though a bit more informed.
It´s all about information is´nt it.

At my place CPH the card is ~480$ and the CD ~640$(including a card and USB
reader) I would pay the 160$ and some for the card. Maybee Garmin could lock
the second card to a specific GPSMAP serialnumber and then I should pay a
fee, say 20$, so in all about 200$ for the transaction, still saving me
280$.

Anyway it ´s my own dumb fault resulting in a not so dumb suggestion(I
think).
If I´m the only guy caught, its not even worth it.
Just info and an idea - no bitching.
Thanks for the feedback

"tvnav.com" skrev i en meddelelse
el.net...

"fen" wrote in message
k...
Darrel, thank you for your advice, about selling and re-buying.

You, beeing a Garmin seller, surely knows about consumer needs, and how
important it is to have them satisfied in the long run.

You are correct, that is our job as a Garmin dealer. Too bad that your
dealer didn't do their job or too bad that you didn't ask before buying
the wrong product for your needs/wants.

The way to do this in this case, vould be to let a costomer send in his
pre-programmed card to Garmin´s designated distributor and let this
distributor do a single copy on a card.
The blank card, the postage and a fee for programing the card of course
beeing paid for by the costomer.

I'm pretty sure that Garmin's agreement with the BlueChart folks
wouldn't allow for this but you are right, it would be worth asking or
suggesting to **Garmin** about it but it probably won't do any good to
bitch about Garmin in the newsgroups about it.


What other options do you have? I.e., other sources and makers.
Garmin isn't the only GPS supplier. Is there something unique about
them that makes them more powerful than others?

I'd like to know. This impacts a purchase decision.
Your experience with them is very useful and disconcerting.


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

"fen" wrote in message
k...
The difference between Garmin blue chart mapping programs, bought either
on
CD with unlock code - OR - as a PreProgrammed DataCards, is that the first
product may be installed on two Garmin GPS units, the second can presently
NOT.

Complaint over policy of non allowed duplication of
PreProgrammed DataCards for personal use in a second
Garmin GPS unit.

Why would Garmin have to tell you beforehand that you may not copy their
copyrighted material? It is already in the federal laws you are supposed to
be aware of. Stop whining man!

Meindert

Perry wrote:
In Canadan as well as the US using more than one copy ( single purchase) of
most any software is called THEFT.

which of course is the main reason people should grow a brain, get the
Microsoft monkey off their backs and embrace the concept of open source
operating systems and software.

And when are you going to quit your paying job and start writing free
software for the masses?

"prodigal1" wrote in message
...
Perry wrote:
In Canadan as well as the US using more than one copy ( single purchase)
of
most any software is called THEFT.

which of course is the main reason people should grow a brain, get the
Microsoft monkey off their backs and embrace the concept of open source
operating systems and software.

And when are you going to quit your paying job and start writing free
software for the masses?

"prodigal1" wrote in message
...
Perry wrote:
In Canadan as well as the US using more than one copy ( single purchase)
of
most any software is called THEFT.

which of course is the main reason people should grow a brain, get the
Microsoft monkey off their backs and embrace the concept of open source
operating systems and software.

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 09:54:57 -0500, "GBM"
wrote:


"Oliver Fleming" wrote in message
...
Hi,
I have been in touch with them and they will NOT permit the software
to
be used on more than two computers, That is from their support
spokesperson.
Kristina Menalo.


I had trouble with the same Kristina. It was about buying Fugawi 3 from one
of their dealers, only to find that the street maps (that I was interested
in at the time) were not the current ones. She would not agree to providing
an upgrade and said I had to pay for the newer maps. I eventually bypassed
her and got to someone who agreed to provide me with a free upgrade, but it
was not a pleasant experience.



good info. I will not buy Garmin GPS.


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:43:25 +0100, "Meindert Sprang"
wrote:

"fen" wrote in message
. dk...
The difference between Garmin blue chart mapping programs, bought either
on
CD with unlock code - OR - as a PreProgrammed DataCards, is that the first
product may be installed on two Garmin GPS units, the second can presently
NOT.

Complaint over policy of non allowed duplication of
PreProgrammed DataCards for personal use in a second
Garmin GPS unit.

Why would Garmin have to tell you beforehand that you may not copy their
copyrighted material? It is already in the federal laws you are supposed to
be aware of. Stop whining man!

Meindert


I won't buy Garmin. Thanks to this group.


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 17:16:50 -0800, I. Care wrote:
Do you know why the company is FUGAWI?


Indians????

I've always thought FUGAWI is an old (US?) Army expression !



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