FUGAWI DO NOT BUY IT!!!
 

purchased a copy from Fugawi and installed it on main computer. When I
tried to install it on my laptop it would not install. Contacted company
and told them. They stated that it had already been installed on more than
2 computers and I could not install it on the laptop.

No body else touched the package and I broke the seal on it. You figure
that one out.

Besides sofware is worse than Garmin


"Oliver Fleming" wrote in message
...
HI,
Below is a copy of the letter I have sent to the Canadian Better
Business Bureau.

These people produce Navigation Software, however in their advertising
they do not state that they limit the installations to 2 machines. Had I
known of this limitation I would not have purchased the software. This is
what is known as in my country as
"sharp practice" and can lead to heavy fines and Jail time.It is difficult
to change from machine to machine if required. Even a reformat of the hard
drive and re-installation requires a phone call or internet connection.
Not always possible if one is in a remote area. Also response is slow and
hampered by stupid non relevant questions.
The program is also buggy and not yet of merchantable quality, some
features as in the instructions do not work.
I have no quarrel with a company who wishes to limit the use of the
software, however this should be made plain in the advertising hype.

Oliver Fleming

A request for a RMA for return of the software is ignored with no
explanation.
Buy it and regret with leisure.

Oliver Fleming

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Happy Trails wrote:
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 17:16:50 -0800, I. Care wrote:
Do you know why the company is FUGAWI?


Indians????

I've always thought FUGAWI is an old (US?) Army expression !

You may be thinking of FUBAR, an army expression that got picked up by
programmers with the ubiquitous use of "foo." The navy version (as
was explained to me) was SNAFU.

I first heard the FUGAWI joke in 1965, but at the same time F-Troop
was on TV with the Hekawi Indians, so I always assumed the two started
more or less together. The famous Memorial Day race started about 5
years later

Garmin DO NOT BUY IT before you read this!!!
 

Which will you buy then? I don't think Cmap or Navionics will let you
freely copy thir charts either.


"Gary G" see.signature@bottom wrote in message
...
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:43:25 +0100, "Meindert Sprang"
wrote:

"fen" wrote in message
.dk...
The difference between Garmin blue chart mapping programs, bought either
on
CD with unlock code - OR - as a PreProgrammed DataCards, is that the
first
product may be installed on two Garmin GPS units, the second can
presently
NOT.

Complaint over policy of non allowed duplication of
PreProgrammed DataCards for personal use in a second
Garmin GPS unit.

Why would Garmin have to tell you beforehand that you may not copy their
copyrighted material? It is already in the federal laws you are supposed
to
be aware of. Stop whining man!

Meindert


I won't buy Garmin. Thanks to this group.


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

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Happy Trails wrote:

Happy Trails To You

OK. Are you Roy, Dale, or Trigger.
About as on topic as much of this ...

Garmin DO NOT BUY IT before you read this!!!
 

Yea, I don't know why I'm posting to this thread, it is almost as ridiculous
as the one on the jet ski overheating.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 11:05:36 -0800, "johnhh" said:

Which will you buy then? I don't think Cmap or Navionics will let you
freely copy thir charts either.

Now you've gone and done it--warned him so he can't come blubbering to the
group about how the publisher kept it a deep dark secret.

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Jeff wrote:

You may be thinking of FUBAR, an army expression that got picked up by
programmers with the ubiquitous use of "foo." The navy version (as was
explained to me) was SNAFU.


Actually, in my experience, SNAFU and FUBAR were used by all the
services. The terms represented a logical procession for the way things
could be perceived when an average trying day became a little more trying.

Things would go from Situation Normal, All Fouled UP to Fouled Up Beyond
All Recall.

Occasionally, one particularly trying event in a series of trying events
could be classified as an ICFBI! which was, of course, I Can't Frankly
Believe It!

Any word starting with the letter "F" was a wild card and any other
expletive starting with "F" could be substituted for it.

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)

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"Jack Erbes" wrote in message
...
Jeff wrote:

You may be thinking of FUBAR, an army expression that got picked up by
programmers with the ubiquitous use of "foo." The navy version (as was
explained to me) was SNAFU.


Actually, in my experience, SNAFU and FUBAR were used by all the services.
The terms represented a logical procession for the way things could be
perceived when an average trying day became a little more trying.

Things would go from Situation Normal, All Fouled UP to Fouled Up Beyond
All Recall.

Occasionally, one particularly trying event in a series of trying events
could be classified as an ICFBI! which was, of course, I Can't Frankly
Believe It!

Any word starting with the letter "F" was a wild card and any other
expletive starting with "F" could be substituted for it.

In order and witht appropriate words:

SNAFU - Situation Normal, All ****ed Up
TARFU - Things Are Really ****ed Up
FUBAR - ****ed Up Beyond All Recognition

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On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 19:31:01 -0500, "Bert Robbins"
wrote:


"Jack Erbes" wrote in message
m...
Jeff wrote:

You may be thinking of FUBAR, an army expression that got picked up by
programmers with the ubiquitous use of "foo." The navy version (as was
explained to me) was SNAFU.


Actually, in my experience, SNAFU and FUBAR were used by all the services.
The terms represented a logical procession for the way things could be
perceived when an average trying day became a little more trying.

Things would go from Situation Normal, All Fouled UP to Fouled Up Beyond
All Recall.

Occasionally, one particularly trying event in a series of trying events
could be classified as an ICFBI! which was, of course, I Can't Frankly
Believe It!

Any word starting with the letter "F" was a wild card and any other
expletive starting with "F" could be substituted for it.

In order and witht appropriate words:

SNAFU - Situation Normal, All ****ed Up
TARFU - Things Are Really ****ed Up
FUBAR - ****ed Up Beyond All Recognition


Don't forget the interservice version JANFU - Joint Army/Navy **** Up

Weebles Wobble
(but they don't fall down)

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On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 11:05:36 -0800, "johnhh"
wrote:

Which will you buy then? I don't think Cmap or Navionics will let you
freely copy thir charts either.



I figure that you guys are way more active and acute than am I. So I
will keenly watch this group to see what more viable options come up.

The exchange of experiences is tightly linked to the usenet.


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Garmin DO NOT BUY IT before you read this!!!
 

"Meindert Sprang" wrote in message
...
"fen" wrote in message
k...
The difference between Garmin blue chart mapping programs, bought either
on
CD with unlock code - OR - as a PreProgrammed DataCards, is that the
first
product may be installed on two Garmin GPS units, the second can
presently
NOT.

Complaint over policy of non allowed duplication of
PreProgrammed DataCards for personal use in a second
Garmin GPS unit.

Why would Garmin have to tell you beforehand that you may not copy their
copyrighted material? It is already in the federal laws you are supposed
to
be aware of. Stop whining man!

Meindert

Amen, Meindert. Amen. I am so tired of these whiners that think they are
owed more than they pay for. They find every reason to label manufacturing
and marketing practices as "greed" but their own theft as "reasonable." It
just never ends. I am sure the manufacturers would welcome a "boycott" of
these freeloaders.

Garmin DO NOT BUY IT before you read this!!!
 

On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 18:51:47 -0800, "Danny" wrote:


"Meindert Sprang" wrote in message
...
"fen" wrote in message
k...
The difference between Garmin blue chart mapping programs, bought either
on
CD with unlock code - OR - as a PreProgrammed DataCards, is that the
first
product may be installed on two Garmin GPS units, the second can
presently
NOT.

Complaint over policy of non allowed duplication of
PreProgrammed DataCards for personal use in a second
Garmin GPS unit.

Why would Garmin have to tell you beforehand that you may not copy their
copyrighted material? It is already in the federal laws you are supposed
to
be aware of. Stop whining man!

Meindert

Amen, Meindert. Amen. I am so tired of these whiners that think they are
owed more than they pay for. They find every reason to label manufacturing
and marketing practices as "greed" but their own theft as "reasonable." It
just never ends. I am sure the manufacturers would welcome a "boycott" of
these freeloaders.


I disagree. The normal ULAL says that one cannot use the same
material at the same time. Agreed. If the material is used on a WA
trip then how can it be used on a location other than that? The
priciple of using software at one main location and a secondary
location is a big factor. If the provider will not do this, they are
not a viabile provide, IMO.

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Garmin DO NOT BUY IT before you read this!!!
 

"Gary G" see.signature@bottom wrote in message
...
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 18:51:47 -0800, "Danny" wrote:


"Meindert Sprang" wrote in message
...
"fen" wrote in message
k...
The difference between Garmin blue chart mapping programs, bought
either
on
CD with unlock code - OR - as a PreProgrammed DataCards, is that the
first
product may be installed on two Garmin GPS units, the second can
presently
NOT.

Complaint over policy of non allowed duplication of
PreProgrammed DataCards for personal use in a second
Garmin GPS unit.

Why would Garmin have to tell you beforehand that you may not copy their
copyrighted material? It is already in the federal laws you are supposed
to
be aware of. Stop whining man!

Meindert

Amen, Meindert. Amen. I am so tired of these whiners that think they are
owed more than they pay for. They find every reason to label
manufacturing
and marketing practices as "greed" but their own theft as "reasonable."
It
just never ends. I am sure the manufacturers would welcome a "boycott" of
these freeloaders.


I disagree. The normal ULAL says that one cannot use the same
material at the same time. Agreed. If the material is used on a WA
trip then how can it be used on a location other than that? The
priciple of using software at one main location and a secondary
location is a big factor. If the provider will not do this, they are
not a viabile provide, IMO.

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Of course they make provision for that scenario. It's the installation on PC
after PC after PC that they prevent, as best they can.

Garmin DO NOT BUY IT before you read this!!!
 

On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:51:42 -0800, "Danny" wrote:


"Gary G" see.signature@bottom wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 18:51:47 -0800, "Danny" wrote:


"Meindert Sprang" wrote in message
...
"fen" wrote in message
k...
The difference between Garmin blue chart mapping programs, bought
either
on
CD with unlock code - OR - as a PreProgrammed DataCards, is that the
first
product may be installed on two Garmin GPS units, the second can
presently
NOT.

Complaint over policy of non allowed duplication of
PreProgrammed DataCards for personal use in a second
Garmin GPS unit.

Why would Garmin have to tell you beforehand that you may not copy their
copyrighted material? It is already in the federal laws you are supposed
to
be aware of. Stop whining man!

Meindert

Amen, Meindert. Amen. I am so tired of these whiners that think they are
owed more than they pay for. They find every reason to label
manufacturing
and marketing practices as "greed" but their own theft as "reasonable."
It
just never ends. I am sure the manufacturers would welcome a "boycott" of
these freeloaders.


I disagree. The normal ULAL says that one cannot use the same
material at the same time. Agreed. If the material is used on a WA
trip then how can it be used on a location other than that? The
priciple of using software at one main location and a secondary
location is a big factor. If the provider will not do this, they are
not a viabile provide, IMO.

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Of course they make provision for that scenario. It's the installation on PC
after PC after PC that they prevent, as best they can.



Now I am confused. I thought that there was an impediment to multiple
instantiations of the software. Like I said, I would only use it
on/in place or another. I am clearly missing the point/nuances here
mostly because I do not have this product. Consequently, I don't know
the intrinsic details about its "protections."

Please help me understand this more thororuly so I can make informed
purchase decisions.



Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

OT: FUGAWI DO NOT BUY IT!!!
 

So,
on old electronic parts with the JAN part numbers, the JAN stands for
"Joint Army Navy"?

I knew that it indicated military listing for the part, but I never knew
what the letters stood for.




Don't forget the interservice version JANFU - Joint Army/Navy **** Up

Weebles Wobble
(but they don't fall down)

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On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 14:10:55 -0600, Richard Owlett
wrote:

Happy Trails wrote:

Happy Trails To You

OK. Are you Roy, Dale, or Trigger.
About as on topic as much of this ...


None of the above - I'm merely as old as you probably are.
Who was that fat guy - Jingles? Or was that a different show.

I thought it appropriate for this NG but I have discovered that I'm
probably infringing on a copyright by that Yogi Bear guy.

Happy Trails To You

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Happy Trails wrote:

snip
None of the above - I'm merely as old as you probably are.
Who was that fat guy - Jingles? Or was that a different show.

Jingles (Andy Devine) was Gene Autry's side kick. Pat Butram did the
talk in a funny voice/do stupid things honors for Roy.

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)

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Jack Erbes wrote:

Happy Trails wrote:

snip

None of the above - I'm merely as old as you probably are.
Who was that fat guy - Jingles? Or was that a different show.


Jingles (Andy Devine) was Gene Autry's side kick. Pat Butram did the
talk in a funny voice/do stupid things honors for Roy.

Jack


But in the Roy Rodgers show, what was CHARACTER's name who drove the jeep?

Was the Jeep's name "Nellie"?

PS my parents married the day before Pearl Harbor.

OT: FUGAWI DO NOT BUY IT!!!
 

Richard Owlett wrote:
Jack Erbes wrote:

Happy Trails wrote:

snip

None of the above - I'm merely as old as you probably are.
Who was that fat guy - Jingles? Or was that a different show.



Jingles (Andy Devine) was Gene Autry's side kick. Pat Butram did the
talk in a funny voice/do stupid things honors for Roy.

Jack


But in the Roy Rodgers show, what was CHARACTER's name who drove the jeep?

Was the Jeep's name "Nellie"?

PS my parents married the day before Pearl Harbor.

Pat Brady drove the jeep Nellie Belle
krj

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On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:35:44 -0600, Richard Owlett
wrote:



But in the Roy Rodgers show, what was CHARACTER's name who drove the jeep?

Was the Jeep's name "Nellie"?

PS my parents married the day before Pearl Harbor.

Gabby Hayes?

Roy's other name was Rogers - no "d". I remember it clearly embossed
on my fake leather holsters. (Wait a minute - fake leather wasn't
invented yet??)


Happy Trails To You

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Happy Trails wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:35:44 -0600, Richard Owlett
wrote:



But in the Roy Rodgers show, what was CHARACTER's name who drove the jeep?

Was the Jeep's name "Nellie"?

PS my parents married the day before Pearl Harbor.


Gabby Hayes?

Roy's other name was Rogers - no "d". I remember it clearly embossed
on my fake leather holsters. (Wait a minute - fake leather wasn't
invented yet??)


Happy Trails To You

I believe it was called vinyl...or simply plastic.

OT: FUGAWI DO NOT BUY IT!!!
 

Richard Owlett wrote:

Jack Erbes wrote:

Happy Trails wrote:

snip

None of the above - I'm merely as old as you probably are.
Who was that fat guy - Jingles? Or was that a different show.



Jingles (Andy Devine) was Gene Autry's side kick. Pat Butram did the
talk in a funny voice/do stupid things honors for Roy.

Jack



But in the Roy Rodgers show, what was CHARACTER's name who drove the jeep?

Was the Jeep's name "Nellie"?

PS my parents married the day before Pearl Harbor.

Okay, I did some research and found I had that all screwed up. Gene
Autry's sidekick was Pat Buttram. At various times his character was
called: Pat; Pat Jensen; Patrick Smith; and Hap Wallace

The Roy Rogers show had the jeep named Nelliebelle, the driver of the
jeep was Pat Brady.

Andy Devine was the character Jingles or Jingles P. Jones, he was in a
number of Roy Rogers movies as that character. And he played the
Jingles character in numerous other movies, in TV, etc.

This stuff is all too important to be left uncorrected. :)

I was "just starting to show" when your folks got married. I was born
on the last day of the Battle of Midway and my 2nd Birthday was D-Day
(June 6th 1944).

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)

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Andy Devine was the honorary mayor of Van Nuys, CA for awhile. He also
owned a small bar in the Big Bear Valley near L.A. Big Bear was frequently
a location for movie making, so the bar was popular way back when. Andy's
bar was expanded and lives on as a restaurant called Captain's Anchorage ...
just in case you're ever visiting Big Bear ... BTW, they say it's haunted.

On 11/9/05 17:30, in article , "Jack
Erbes" wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

Jack Erbes wrote:

Happy Trails wrote:

snip

None of the above - I'm merely as old as you probably are.
Who was that fat guy - Jingles? Or was that a different show.



Jingles (Andy Devine) was Gene Autry's side kick. Pat Butram did the
talk in a funny voice/do stupid things honors for Roy.

Jack



But in the Roy Rodgers show, what was CHARACTER's name who drove the jeep?

Was the Jeep's name "Nellie"?

PS my parents married the day before Pearl Harbor.

Okay, I did some research and found I had that all screwed up. Gene
Autry's sidekick was Pat Buttram. At various times his character was
called: Pat; Pat Jensen; Patrick Smith; and Hap Wallace

The Roy Rogers show had the jeep named Nelliebelle, the driver of the
jeep was Pat Brady.

Andy Devine was the character Jingles or Jingles P. Jones, he was in a
number of Roy Rogers movies as that character. And he played the
Jingles character in numerous other movies, in TV, etc.

This stuff is all too important to be left uncorrected. :)

I was "just starting to show" when your folks got married. I was born
on the last day of the Battle of Midway and my 2nd Birthday was D-Day
(June 6th 1944).

Jack

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bcd wrote:

I was "just starting to show" when your folks got married. I was born
on the last day of the Battle of Midway and my 2nd Birthday was D-Day
(June 6th 1944).

Jack


Man..you guys are old!
I was born August 1949..but always wished mom could have held on a
little longer until the '50's.
The 1940's always looked so black & white, dark & gray/dreary to me.

OT: FUGAWI DO NOT BUY IT!!!
 

"bcd" wrote in message
...
Andy Devine was the honorary mayor of Van Nuys, CA for awhile. He also
owned a small bar in the Big Bear Valley near L.A. Big Bear was
frequently
a location for movie making, so the bar was popular way back when. Andy's
bar was expanded and lives on as a restaurant called Captain's Anchorage
...
just in case you're ever visiting Big Bear ... BTW, they say it's haunted.

Continued OT........
I was working as an usher at a theatre in Santa Ana, CA, in the mid fifties,
when Andy Devine and his wife came in to see a movie. I think they had a
home in nearby Newport Beach. That man could really fill up a seat!

Larry

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Jack Erbes wrote:
Andy Devine was the character Jingles or Jingles P. Jones, he was in a
number of Roy Rogers movies as that character. And he played the
Jingles character in numerous other movies, in TV, etc.

I don't ever recall seeing him with Roy Rogers, but he was definitely
a sidekick to Wild Bill Hickok on a television series. I *think* this
is how his picture, riding a horse, came to appear on a Kellogg's cereal
(Sugar Pops?) during the period. I have very vivid memories of the
intro to the show, in which Jingles, lagging behind, rides like hell to
catch up and yells, "Hey, Wild Bill, wait fer me!"

There was also a children's show of some sort called Andy's Gang. It was
sponsored by Buster Brown Shoes and borrowed the tune from the Buster
Brown jingle for its theme song: "I've got a gang / you've got a gang /
everybody's gotta have a gang / but the only gang / that's made for me /
GOOD OLD ANDY'S GANG!"

He was also a ham radio operator. I heard him on the air exactly one time
in my life, having a conversation with some people he apparently knew.
Seemed like the entire world recognized the voice and wanted to work
him, including me, but I know I never got through the pileup.

The above was all from memory, but I found a few pages to back it up
such as http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/andys-gang.htm.

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my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.