Left over hose odors
 

i have removed the permeated (and smelly!) sanitation hoses along with
the holding tank and vent hose. i have a strong lingering odor where
the hoses were. i am in the process of replacing all hoses along with
the holding tank - but i would like everything to be odor free before
i install anything. i would appreciate any ideas.
thanks - bob t

Len wrote:

You can solve the odor-problem radically and for just a few bucks by
using rigid pvc-tube.

damn, why didn't I think of that!
thanks for thinking of that!

I believe the OP was asking how to get rid of the lingering odors now that
the old
hoses and tank have been removed. I doubt that rigid pipe will magically
eliminate the existing odors unless I am missing something.

Doug

"Len" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:01:50 -0400, bobt wrote:
i have removed the permeated (and smelly!) sanitation hoses along with
the holding tank and vent hose. i have a strong lingering odor where
the hoses were. i am in the process of replacing all hoses along with
the holding tank - but i would like everything to be odor free before
i install anything. i would appreciate any ideas.
thanks - bob t

Even the very best hose eventually will let odor through cause
pvc-softeners have been used to achieve a bend-able hose.

You can solve the odor-problem radically and for just a few bucks by
using rigid pvc-tube. When a part of your installation consists of a
hose going upwards there will allways remain a rest of fluid/solid in
that particular part of the hose. This is the area where the odor will
get through on a given moment (depending on how much softener was used
in the pvc).

My 2 cts: replace the upgoing part of the hose with a piece of rigid
pvc-tube. Better still: replace as much as possible. Using multiple
45 degrees bends will allow you to fabricate a piece of tubing that
will fit, otherwise you can bend a tube by using a heatgun. You can
use small pieces of top quality hose to connect to your head and
tank. The rigid pvc is off course without softeners so it will last a
lifetime and will never let any odor through. And it's a LOT cheaper
than the 5-star hoses that will give in after -at best- a few years.

Hope this helps,
Len
S/v Present

good comment......cause and effect!! mik
"Len" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:01:50 -0400, bobt wrote:
i have removed the permeated (and smelly!) sanitation hoses along with
the holding tank and vent hose. i have a strong lingering odor where
the hoses were. i am in the process of replacing all hoses along with
the holding tank - but i would like everything to be odor free before
i install anything. i would appreciate any ideas.
thanks - bob t

Even the very best hose eventually will let odor through cause
pvc-softeners have been used to achieve a bend-able hose.

You can solve the odor-problem radically and for just a few bucks by
using rigid pvc-tube. When a part of your installation consists of a
hose going upwards there will allways remain a rest of fluid/solid in
that particular part of the hose. This is the area where the odor will
get through on a given moment (depending on how much softener was used
in the pvc).

My 2 cts: replace the upgoing part of the hose with a piece of rigid
pvc-tube. Better still: replace as much as possible. Using multiple
45 degrees bends will allow you to fabricate a piece of tubing that
will fit, otherwise you can bend a tube by using a heatgun. You can
use small pieces of top quality hose to connect to your head and
tank. The rigid pvc is off course without softeners so it will last a
lifetime and will never let any odor through. And it's a LOT cheaper
than the 5-star hoses that will give in after -at best- a few years.

Hope this helps,
Len
S/v Present

This is the best flexible hose to use, where you need to connect the
rigid if you use it: http://www.aussieglobe.com/avs96.htm. This is what
Sealand used to sell as Odorsafe, but they supply something else now
that doesn't work as well and is more expensive. As far as getting rid
of the current odors, a good scrubbing with simple green or any good
cleaner works great. If that fails, PureAyre odor eliminator seems to
work great. http://www.pureayre.com. No commercial connection, just a
satisfied user.

bobt wrote:
i have removed the permeated (and smelly!) sanitation hoses along with
the holding tank and vent hose. i have a strong lingering odor where
the hoses were. i am in the process of replacing all hoses along with
the holding tank - but i would like everything to be odor free before
i install anything. i would appreciate any ideas.
thanks - bob t


If Febreeze is half as good as advertised, a good spraying all over the
area may help.

On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:01:50 -0400, bobt wrote:
i have removed the permeated (and smelly!) sanitation hoses along with
the holding tank and vent hose. i have a strong lingering odor where
the hoses were. i am in the process of replacing all hoses along with
the holding tank - but i would like everything to be odor free before
i install anything. i would appreciate any ideas.
thanks - bob t

Even the very best hose eventually will let odor through cause
pvc-softeners have been used to achieve a bend-able hose.

You can solve the odor-problem radically and for just a few bucks by
using rigid pvc-tube. When a part of your installation consists of a
hose going upwards there will allways remain a rest of fluid/solid in
that particular part of the hose. This is the area where the odor will
get through on a given moment (depending on how much softener was used
in the pvc).

My 2 cts: replace the upgoing part of the hose with a piece of rigid
pvc-tube. Better still: replace as much as possible. Using multiple
45 degrees bends will allow you to fabricate a piece of tubing that
will fit, otherwise you can bend a tube by using a heatgun. You can
use small pieces of top quality hose to connect to your head and
tank. The rigid pvc is off course without softeners so it will last a
lifetime and will never let any odor through. And it's a LOT cheaper
than the 5-star hoses that will give in after -at best- a few years.

Hope this helps,
Len
S/v Present

Keith wrote:

This is the best flexible hose to use, where you need to connect the
rigid if you use it: http://www.aussieglobe.com/avs96.htm. This is what
Sealand used to sell as Odorsafe, but they supply something else now
that doesn't work as well and is more expensive. As far as getting rid
of the current odors, a good scrubbing with simple green or any good
cleaner works great. If that fails, PureAyre odor eliminator seems to
work great. http://www.pureayre.com. No commercial connection, just a
satisfied user.

I second Keith's recommendations--both hose, and what to use to get rid
of the residual odors. I've just discovered PurAyre, and from the
feedback I've gotten it WORKS!

As for whether to use hard PVC....it's only recommended for long
straight runs. And it also should be "soft coupled" to anything rigid
(toilet, tank, y-valve, macerator pump, thru-hull) with enough
hose--about a foot--to cushion it from shock and flex. If you don't, it
can crack. So unless you have long straight runs, I suggest you go with
the AVS96 hose Keith recommended.
--
Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 16:46:58 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

I believe the OP was asking how to get rid of the lingering odors now that
the old hoses and tank have been removed. I doubt that rigid pipe will magically
eliminate the existing odors unless I am missing something.

Dear Doug, I'll explain this to you.
In my view the remaining odor is a matter of simple, yet proper
cleaning. I don't know much about the various cleaning- or
odor-removing products so I kept shut about that. I read the OP is
changing his installation and therefor I thought my message to be on
topic. Whether you're missing something is also out of my competence
but I already do have a amateur-opinion: a flexibel mind.
Len.

On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 01:11:39 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:
As for whether to use hard PVC....it's only recommended for long
straight runs. And it also should be "soft coupled" to anything rigid
(toilet, tank, y-valve, macerator pump, thru-hull) with enough
hose--about a foot--to cushion it from shock and flex. If you don't, it
can crack. So unless you have long straight runs, I suggest you go with
the AVS96 hose Keith recommended.

Peggie, could you elaborate a bit on the "solely for long strait
runs"-part. As you describe it, I suspect only a very few
installations are suited for using hard pvc.

I installed hard pvc by using a heat gun and some 45 degree bends.
I made "the soft connection" on both ends and I used rubber fasteners
every 30-40 cm to ensure proper fixation and thus reliability.
In my view hard pvc (installed with care off course) is superior cause
it's really non-permeable and *stays* non-permeable. Next to that it's
a lot cheaper than these top-quality hoses.

Regards,
Len
S/v Present