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NWS proposes modification to commercial competition policy
In response Mr. Santorum's asinine bill the NWS is proposing to modify its
policy with regard to competing with commercial services. Basically they will take the concerns of the commercial services into consideration when developing new product but will not restrict public access to the data and analysis. You can read the old and new policy statements and make comments on the proposed change at http://weather.gov/partnershippolicy...on-1/index.htm -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
In response Mr. Santorum's asinine bill the NWS is proposing to modify its policy with regard to competing with commercial services. Sounds like this might be one of the few gov't agencies with an actual grown-up in charge. .... You can read the old and new policy statements and make comments on the proposed change at http://weather.gov/partnershippolicy...on-1/index.htm |
DSK wrote in
: Sounds like this might be one of the few gov't agencies with an actual grown-up in charge. It's not. They're afraid if they don't have a function any more they'll be CONTRACTED OUT, like the rest of the govt tries to do.... It terrifies most government bureaucrats. Hell, our NWS bureaucrats, here, are afraid to ask the airport bureaucrats if we can put up a vertical ham antenna in the SWAMP next to the NWS office, but over the airport fence. How silly.... -- Larry |
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:33:40 -0400, "Glenn Ashmore"
wrote: In response Mr. Santorum's asinine bill the NWS is proposing to modify its policy with regard to competing with commercial services. Basically they will take the concerns of the commercial services into consideration when developing new product but will not restrict public access to the data and analysis. You can read the old and new policy statements and make comments on the proposed change at http://weather.gov/partnershippolicy...on-1/index.htm with any luck those of us in PA will get rid of this ******* next year. --------------------------- to see who "wf3h" is, go to "qrz.com" and enter 'wf3h' in the field |
with any luck those of us in PA will get rid of this ******* next
year. please do :) I heard him on an NPR (Dianne Rhem show) talking about his new book. Somoene asked him about the bill, and his response was that this bill does _not_ limit public access. (I'm afraid I do not have the exact quote.) I'm afraid the bill language states otherwise. mickey |
You can read the old and new policy statements and make comments
on the proposed change at It makes my eyes blurry. Can someone translate the difference into simple english? |
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When you filter out all the bureaucratize all they are saying is that they
will cooperate with the commercial AND non-profit services and avoid competing in areas outside NOAAs responsibility. In effect adding back a less restrictive form of non-competition than in the original 1990 policy statement. Basically we are dealing with 3 different NOAA policy statements. (NOT laws) The proposed new policy, the current policy and the 1990 policy. The 1990 statement says that NOAA will not compete with the private sector when a service is currently provided or can be provided by a commercial service unless otherwise directed by law. At that time the commercial services were primarily providing specialized forecasts to specific industries and special events and pretty graphics to the newspapers and TV. The were not big on delivering general weather information to the public so the NWS provided it via WEFax, VHF and a limited web presence. During the next 14 years the commercial services figured out the advertising revenues they could get from a web site, jumped into that market and started bitching about NWS competing with them. Then in 2002 a study by the National Science Foundation commissioned by congress really beat up the NWS for failing to take full advantage of the web in providing weather data to the public. NWS responded by slightly improving its web presence and improved access to climate data and general weather facts. In 2004 the Office of Management and Budget issued a directive that all Federal agencies must make all their data not classified as secret easily accessible to the public using all available technologies. NOAA was caught between the 1990 policy statement and the constant encroachment into direct delivery to the public by the commercial services . In response to the OMB directive NWS in January of 2005 changed their policy statement eliminating the non-compete clause and started to improve their web sites to make current weather information more user friendly. That is what sent Accuweather into such a tizzy. While Mr. Santorum claims that all the bill does is restore the 1990 policy, because the commercial services have moved so far into services traditionally provided by the NWS it effectively eliminates ALL direct access by the public to services that NWS provides. It is important to understand that the commercial services have no desire to privatize weather data collection. They can't possibly afford to pay for that. They only want the NWS to give the data to them exclusively so they can charge for it. Santorum's bill would be analogous to requiring the Post Office to collect, sort and deliver the mail to local UPS branches for free and so UPS could charge us for local delivery. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com wrote in message ... You can read the old and new policy statements and make comments on the proposed change at It makes my eyes blurry. Can someone translate the difference into simple english? |
In effect adding back a less restrictive form of non-competition
than in the original 1990 policy statement. Thanks for the english explanation. IIUC, this new policy statement is beneficial to us. |
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