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[email protected] July 18th 05 05:10 AM

2 or 4 stroke
 
Another thread concerning a 9.9 hp got me wondering what to use to
power a boat I will build. It needs to be up to 75 hp.

Does a 4 stroke really give noticeable increase in mpg?
Are 4 strokes really finicky compared to 2 strokes (I mean reliability).


Lew Hodgett July 18th 05 05:26 AM

wrote:
Another thread concerning a 9.9 hp got me wondering what to use to
power a boat I will build. It needs to be up to 75 hp.

Does a 4 stroke really give noticeable increase in mpg?
Are 4 strokes really finicky compared to 2 strokes (I mean reliability).


Since the gov't got involved, 2 stroke is no longer available, so it is
a no brainer.

Lew

Keith July 18th 05 09:06 AM

Duh, where have you been looking? 2 strokes are most certainly
available.


Glenn Ashmore July 18th 05 02:21 PM

The 4-stroke will give you noticeably better fuel consumption, is a lot
quieter and generally more reliable. The down side is that they are
heavier. That can make a big difference in a dinghy motor but not a lot
when you get above 25HP.

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Another thread concerning a 9.9 hp got me wondering what to use to
power a boat I will build. It needs to be up to 75 hp.

Does a 4 stroke really give noticeable increase in mpg?
Are 4 strokes really finicky compared to 2 strokes (I mean reliability).




[email protected] July 18th 05 02:48 PM

2 strokes ae readily available in models that are a couple years old.
These may be a good deal if still under warranty.

Considering the hassles of how a 4 stroke cannot be tilted some ways,
how reliable are they compared to a 2 stroke?
How expensive to repair compared to a 2 stroke?
Considering a cost differential of about $1000 (US), is fuel economy a
real consideration for a 4 stroke?


prodigal1 July 18th 05 03:59 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
Since the gov't got involved, 2 stroke is no longer available, so it is
a no brainer.


Duh Lew, I helped put the government in place and so did you if you
voted. Since private industry will never do the socially responsible
thing unless forced by law, and since most consumers are as dumb as
posts, it takes the government to shall we say, guide the stupid to the
correct answers. In this case, outlawing two-stroke engines. Of course
it could just be that I'm all wrong and allowing 1 out of every 5
gallons of gas passing through my two-stroke to go straight into the
lakes un-combusted is really an okay thing for us to be doing.

[email protected] July 18th 05 05:19 PM

I understand the newer 2 strokes are fairly clean.


Lew Hodgett July 18th 05 05:19 PM

prodigal1 wrote:


Duh Lew, I helped put the government in place and so did you if you
voted. Since private industry will never do the socially responsible
thing unless forced by law, and since most consumers are as dumb as
posts, it takes the government to shall we say, guide the stupid to the
correct answers. In this case, outlawing two-stroke engines. Of course
it could just be that I'm all wrong and allowing 1 out of every 5
gallons of gas passing through my two-stroke to go straight into the
lakes un-combusted is really an okay thing for us to be doing.


You want an argument, change the subject.

Lew

Jonathan Ganz July 18th 05 07:13 PM

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:59:24 -0400, prodigal1 said:

Since private industry will never do the socially responsible
thing unless forced by law, and since most consumers are as dumb as
posts, it takes the government to shall we say, guide the stupid to the
correct answers.


Ah, those dumb consumers. We surely need a gaggle of wise guvmint
bureaucrats to make all our decisions for us.


How about a gaggle of intelligent, dedicated people who are looking
out for the common good... but that's against your philosophy, right?



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"If there's no wind, row."


FMac July 19th 05 01:10 AM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
How about a gaggle of intelligent, dedicated people who are looking
out for the common good... but that's against your philosophy, right?

The common good... Interestingly, that's a communist philosophy. Or
perhaps, more recently, Al Quaida. Personally, I don't need you, or any
other racial to advocate your preferences on anything.




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