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starbug June 13th 05 01:51 AM

J24 sinking in Seattle
 
This is a little bit of old news, but a few weeks ago a J24 sank off
Shilshole marina in Seattle during the J24 nationals. I remember waking
up that morning, looking out at the unsettled weather and thinking there
was going to be some excitement on the water today during the races. I
did not think anybody's boat would sink...

This is actually the second J24 to sink in Seattle in the last year. I
put some more info and a pretty disturbing (the water here is so cold!)
picture on my website: http://www.xs-adventure.com. I'm trying to get
in touch with the captain for an interview. I'll post that when it's ready.


/paul

Larry W4CSC June 13th 05 02:16 AM

starbug wrote in news:LZ-dne8TS700RTHfRVn-
:

I'm trying to get
in touch with the captain for an interview.


Phooey on him. Know any divers?! Nice looking boat sitting there waiting
for SALVAGE. If you can borrow those red blow-up bouys in the background,
I bet they'll float the J-24 just fine if you stuff 'em in the cabin and
blow 'em up from the surface. That close to shore it isn't down that far.

It'd be a nice boat at a great price.

There's a 40' ketch sunk in the mooring area of the Ashley River across
from Charleston City Marina. Too bad it sat so long. Now it's too trashed
to recover. One of its masts has disappeared, only the mainmast sticks up,
now. Pity....

--
Larry

You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and your outlined in
chalk.


starbug June 13th 05 06:56 AM

Larry W4CSC wrote:
starbug wrote in news:LZ-dne8TS700RTHfRVn-
:


I'm trying to get
in touch with the captain for an interview.



Phooey on him. Know any divers?! Nice looking boat sitting there waiting
for SALVAGE. If you can borrow those red blow-up bouys in the background,
I bet they'll float the J-24 just fine if you stuff 'em in the cabin and
blow 'em up from the surface. That close to shore it isn't down that far.

It'd be a nice boat at a great price.


That would be some dive! The water out there is probably 300 feet. If
you could do it though, there is another J24 that sank around the same
spot last October. :-(

/paul


Matt O'Toole June 13th 05 07:14 AM

starbug wrote:
This is a little bit of old news, but a few weeks ago a J24 sank off
Shilshole marina in Seattle during the J24 nationals. I remember
waking
up that morning, looking out at the unsettled weather and thinking
there was going to be some excitement on the water today during the
races. I
did not think anybody's boat would sink...

This is actually the second J24 to sink in Seattle in the last year.
I
put some more info and a pretty disturbing (the water here is so
cold!) picture on my website: http://www.xs-adventure.com. I'm
trying to get
in touch with the captain for an interview. I'll post that when it's
ready.


/paul




Matt O'Toole June 13th 05 07:22 AM

starbug wrote:

This is a little bit of old news, but a few weeks ago a J24 sank off
Shilshole marina in Seattle during the J24 nationals. I remember
waking
up that morning, looking out at the unsettled weather and thinking
there was going to be some excitement on the water today during the
races. I
did not think anybody's boat would sink...

This is actually the second J24 to sink in Seattle in the last year.
I
put some more info and a pretty disturbing (the water here is so
cold!) picture on my website: http://www.xs-adventure.com. I'm
trying to get
in touch with the captain for an interview. I'll post that when it's
ready.


This certainly isn't the first J24 to sink while racing. I know of 3 others,
and I'm sure there have been more. The problem is that during a knockdown, the
hatch is barely above the water. Or course that's in flat water -- in any kind
of waves the boat will fill up in no time. And where there's wind enough for a
knockdown there are waves. These days small keelboats are raced like dinghies.
Knockdowns and capsizes are common, and even an accepted part of racing. But
the J24 was not designed with this in mind!

Unfortunately there's a lot of really deep water around Seattle, where salvage
may be impractical or impossible.

Matt O.



Larry W4CSC June 14th 05 02:23 AM

starbug wrote in news:OuCdnXkQto5ggjDfRVn-
:

That would be some dive! The water out there is probably 300 feet. If
you could do it though, there is another J24 that sank around the same
spot last October. :-(

/paul


Oops....The pictures on the news website made it look like it was quite
close to shore. We get out-of-focus here in the flatlands on how fast
those volcanoes can make depth go up close to shore.....

Well, it was a nice thought. At least noone will be draggin' their props
through his mast.

--
Larry

You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and your outlined in
chalk.


[email protected] June 14th 05 09:10 PM

I interviewed the owner of this ill-fated boat via email. He responded
with some thoughtful and interesting answers about what happened. The
full interview is posted at: http://www.xs-adventure.com


Larry W4CSC June 15th 05 03:02 AM

Gene Kearns wrote in
:

However, it takes about 30 miles offshore to get into water deep
enough to be beyond the capability of recreational diving...


Closer'n 5 miles, divers look like beached whales!....

Sure gettin' hot in Charleston. Is it cooler in NC? Mid 90's at City
Marina today. God I love those little bikinis when it's hot...(c;

--
Larry

You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and your outlined in
chalk.


Don White June 15th 05 02:36 PM

Red Cloud® wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:02:45 -0400, Larry W4CSC wrote:


Sure gettin' hot in Charleston. Is it cooler in NC? Mid 90's at City
Marina today. God I love those little bikinis when it's hot...(c;



This creates a nightmarish image in my mind! If you want to wear those things,
at least don't tell us about it!!!

rusty redcloud



Good God! Not another Jax parading around in a thong or bikini.
Enough to make you forget boating and take up golf.


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