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[email protected] June 11th 05 04:10 AM

A sailing chair
 
On my boat (28' S2), I carry my dinghy on deck and its sorta hard to
see over, but........

My original backstay had a piece of wire cable spliced into it about 6'
off the transom with a stainless clip on it. I am not really sure what
it was for , maybe in lieu of a topping lift to hold the end of the
boom up. When I had a new backstay made, they copied the old one
exactly so I still have it. So........I want to make a chair suspended
from this attachment allowing me to sit in comfort, high enough to see
over the dinghy, steering with teh tiller extension. The chair would
rock with the boat. Any thoughts on how to do this?


JG June 11th 05 04:29 AM

wrote in message
ups.com...
On my boat (28' S2), I carry my dinghy on deck and its sorta hard to
see over, but........

My original backstay had a piece of wire cable spliced into it about 6'
off the transom with a stainless clip on it. I am not really sure what
it was for , maybe in lieu of a topping lift to hold the end of the
boom up. When I had a new backstay made, they copied the old one
exactly so I still have it. So........I want to make a chair suspended
from this attachment allowing me to sit in comfort, high enough to see
over the dinghy, steering with teh tiller extension. The chair would
rock with the boat. Any thoughts on how to do this?


It was a topping lift substitute. I used mine exclusively for when I wasn't
using the boat, it was a short trip under engine, or I forgot about it when
I tried to raise the main. g My home-made lazy jacks were fine for
temporarily holding up the boom.

I'm not sure I'd want to use it for chair support... seems like you'd be out
of control and you might do damage to the connection with all that swinging.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




[email protected] June 11th 05 04:34 PM

Not sure what to think of the "damage" possibility. Actually, this
cable is "swaged" on, not spliced which may make it more liable to
damage. If damage was obvious, I could simply cut it off doing surgery
with the trusty Dremel tool and replace it. Not sure, is damage a
serious consideration?


Jerry June 12th 05 12:04 AM

wrote:
Not sure what to think of the "damage" possibility.


How about damage to your spine when the thing breaks with you in the chair?



JG June 12th 05 02:50 AM

"Jerry" wrote in message
m...
wrote:
Not sure what to think of the "damage" possibility.


How about damage to your spine when the thing breaks with you in the
chair?


I was thinking about the damage of swinging into other things, but yeah...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Jim June 12th 05 04:04 PM

Your posts continually amaze me.

You do not seem to understand the function of some pretty basic parts of
your boat.

Clip the end of your boom to the little clip when your main is down, buy
an inflatable dinghy, and sit on the deck.




wrote:
On my boat (28' S2), I carry my dinghy on deck and its sorta hard to
see over, but........

My original backstay had a piece of wire cable spliced into it about 6'
off the transom with a stainless clip on it. I am not really sure what
it was for , maybe in lieu of a topping lift to hold the end of the
boom up. When I had a new backstay made, they copied the old one
exactly so I still have it. So........I want to make a chair suspended
from this attachment allowing me to sit in comfort, high enough to see
over the dinghy, steering with teh tiller extension. The chair would
rock with the boat. Any thoughts on how to do this?



[email protected] June 13th 05 12:42 AM

Jim:

I am happy to b e able to amaze and annoy you. However, I want a
dinghy I can row so an inflatable wont work.
The purpose of the short cable seemed to be in lieu of a topping lift
but as the boat has ALWAYS had a topping lift I am not sure why it is
really there unless it is there for when the topping lift fails. Once
I did use it in place of the topping lift when I had just re-stepped my
mast aftyer about a years sailing hiatus. For about 15 minutes I just
couldnt figger out why my main wouldnt trim properly and then I
remembered I had not disconnected this thing. Its more trouble than
its worth.


Rosalie B. June 13th 05 02:06 AM

wrote:

On my boat (28' S2), I carry my dinghy on deck and its sorta hard to
see over, but........

My original backstay had a piece of wire cable spliced into it about 6'
off the transom with a stainless clip on it. I am not really sure what
it was for , maybe in lieu of a topping lift to hold the end of the
boom up. When I had a new backstay made, they copied the old one
exactly so I still have it. So........I want to make a chair suspended
from this attachment allowing me to sit in comfort, high enough to see
over the dinghy, steering with teh tiller extension. The chair would
rock with the boat. Any thoughts on how to do this?


I don't think this is a good idea. There was a sailboat slightly
ahead of us in the ICW and the lady was in a hammock that was set up
on the stern. Power boaters passed on both sides of us (one on the
port and one on the starboard) giving maximum waking. The other boat
saw the boat that passed on the same side they were on, but not the
one that was on the other side of us, and the resulting wake dumped
the lady out of the hammock. Not that they could have done anything
about it anyway except hold on a bit better.

We don't carry our inflatable dinghy on deck partly because I can't
see over it unless I stand up. We also have a portaboat that we
either lash to the cabin top or put along the lifelines. Much easier
to row than the inflatable too. Acquaintances of ours used to put
their hard dingy on the aft cabin top (center cockpit boat). I've
also seen people that sit up on the aft cabin top and steer with their
feet. I've seen dinghies towed also or stowed up against the stern
covering the name.

My first question though would be - where are you going to be doing
this sailing. If offshore, then I wouldn't tow the dinghy, but OTOH
you really don't need to see right close to the boat then either. You
can stand up for the time that you need to get in to port.

We've got a foam seat that we put on top of the helmsman seat which
puts me up high enough that I can see. Got it at the boat show. I've
also seen swivel pedestal seats which can be removed if necessary.


grandma Rosalie

Jim June 13th 05 03:16 AM



wrote:
Jim:

I am happy to b e able to amaze and annoy you. However, I want a
dinghy I can row so an inflatable wont work.
The purpose of the short cable seemed to be in lieu of a topping lift
but as the boat has ALWAYS had a topping lift I am not sure why it is
really there unless it is there for when the topping lift fails. Once
I did use it in place of the topping lift when I had just re-stepped my
mast aftyer about a years sailing hiatus. For about 15 minutes I just
couldnt figger out why my main wouldnt trim properly and then I
remembered I had not disconnected this thing. Its more trouble than
its worth.


You just said it better than I did.

You don't annoy me, I wouldn't read your posts if they did.

Picturing you swinging from the toping lift while trying to steer is too
bazaar for words.


[email protected] June 13th 05 01:44 PM

Jim:

I also thought it was a bizarre image which was why it attracted me.
However, I now agree it prob isnt a good idea. Still, maybe I'll try it
just to see peoples jaws drop.



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