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Denis Marier May 18th 05 03:13 PM

Making coffee under sail
 
I wonder what is the best way to make coffee while sailing alone.
TIA





beaufortnc May 18th 05 04:30 PM

I've found Lexan French Presses at Backpacking stores that are both
light and unbreakable.

Might be a good idea. Good to keep glass off the boat if possible.

Thanks,

Mike.


Denis Marier May 18th 05 05:24 PM

I do not know what is a French press. Is a Bodum coffee maker?
"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
...
On 18 May 2005 08:30:02 -0700, "beaufortnc"
wrote:

I've found Lexan French Presses at Backpacking stores that are both
light and unbreakable.

Might be a good idea. Good to keep glass off the boat if possible.

Thanks,

Mike.


That's exactly what I have. It's great, and it was about $15 as I
remember. I liked the coffee it made so much, that I got a fancy glass
one for home. This summer, I'm going to add a hand powered grinder to
the boat setup!

rusty redcloud




engsol May 18th 05 08:41 PM

On Wed, 18 May 2005 14:13:09 GMT, "Denis Marier" wrote:

I wonder what is the best way to make coffee while sailing alone.
TIA


I'm a coffee 'snob' at home...exotic blends, grinder, etc.,but on the boat,
I get along fine with Folger's Singles...think coffee in a tea bag.
It's drinkable, and no clean-up.
Norm B

Jeff May 18th 05 09:05 PM

Denis Marier wrote:
I wonder what is the best way to make coffee while sailing alone.
TIA


I have a French Press on board, and use it on occasion, however
cleaning it is a bit of a pain. More often I use a paper cone drip
into a Thermos, which is easier to clean because the paper can be
easily trashed. The Thermos keeps the coffee hot for several hours,
and drinkable for much of the day. This helps if you make some just
before getting underway - paper drip is a pain while the boat is moving.

Among aficionados you'll probably find more support for the press,
although there are many (myself included) that find it a bit muddy and
unpredictable. Almost any method (except percolators) can make
quality coffee, though there are some differences.

More important than the method is fresh ground coffee. If you buy
pre-ground, you're already limiting yourself to mediocre coffee at best.


Jeff May 18th 05 09:12 PM

engsol wrote:

I'm a coffee 'snob' at home...exotic blends, grinder, etc.,but on the boat,
I get along fine with Folger's Singles...think coffee in a tea bag.
It's drinkable, and no clean-up.


If you don't roast your own, you're not a "coffee snob." On my last
one year cruise I left with 25 pounds of green beans (about a 6 month
supply - I needed replenishment partway) and roasted weekly on the BBQ
with a WhirleyPop.




chuck May 18th 05 10:12 PM

Hello Denis,

However you decide to make your coffee, consider keeping it
hot in a thermos. Maybe even two small ones. It will remain
almost too hot to drink for maybe 4-5 hours if unopened.
Less if it is opened.

There are stainless steel types that are quite robust.

Some will argue that the coffee suffers somewhat when stored
in a thermos and I will not disagree. But unless you are on
a substantial vessel, the opportunity to enjoy a cup when
you want (or need) it, rather than when you are able to make
it, is priceless!

Good luck.

Chuck

Denis Marier wrote:
I wonder what is the best way to make coffee while sailing alone.
TIA



Doug Dotson May 18th 05 10:32 PM

We have a very nice stainless steel french press. Works well.

Doug

"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 May 2005 16:24:56 GMT, "Denis Marier"
wrote:

I do not know what is a French press. Is a Bodum coffee maker?


Yes, that is the type. Bodum is probably the biggest manufacturer of
french press coffee makers. The one I have at home is from Bodum, and
is made of pyrex glass. If you do a google search for "french press",
you will find lots of websites with instructions on how to use one
properly. The one I have on my boat is made of unbreakable lexan
plastic, and is not from Bodum. I bought it at a camping equipment
store.

rusty redcloud

"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
. ..
On 18 May 2005 08:30:02 -0700, "beaufortnc"
wrote:

I've found Lexan French Presses at Backpacking stores that are both
light and unbreakable.

Might be a good idea. Good to keep glass off the boat if possible.

Thanks,

Mike.

That's exactly what I have. It's great, and it was about $15 as I
remember. I liked the coffee it made so much, that I got a fancy glass
one for home. This summer, I'm going to add a hand powered grinder to
the boat setup!

rusty redcloud






Terry Spragg May 18th 05 10:54 PM

Denis Marier wrote:
I wonder what is the best way to make coffee while sailing alone.
TIA


A sterno swing stove. Single burner, makes a cuppa in few minutes,
or heats wieners and beans, or soup.

A better plan: make a thermos extra at breakfast.

Terry K


Doug Dotson May 18th 05 11:12 PM


"Terry Spragg" wrote in message
...
Denis Marier wrote:
I wonder what is the best way to make coffee while sailing alone.
TIA


A sterno swing stove. Single burner, makes a cuppa in few minutes, or
heats wieners and beans, or soup.

A better plan: make a thermos extra at breakfast.


Where do you get a thermos that will keep coffee warm for 5 or 6
days? Anybody thought of using a stove?

Terry K




prodigal1 May 19th 05 01:26 AM

engsol wrote:
I'm a coffee 'snob' at home...exotic blends, grinder, etc.,but on the boat,
I get along fine with Folger's Singles...think coffee in a tea bag.
It's drinkable, and no clean-up.


philistine! you should be forced to watch reruns of Regis and
whatever-her-name-is in perpetuity for this blasphemy ;-)

Harlan Lachman May 19th 05 02:54 PM

In article , Jeff
wrote:

Denis Marier wrote:
I wonder what is the best way to make coffee while sailing alone.
TIA


I have a French Press on board, and use it on occasion, however
cleaning it is a bit of a pain. More often I use a paper cone drip
into a Thermos, which is easier to clean because the paper can be
easily trashed. The Thermos keeps the coffee hot for several hours,
and drinkable for much of the day. This helps if you make some just
before getting underway - paper drip is a pain while the boat is moving.

Among aficionados you'll probably find more support for the press,
although there are many (myself included) that find it a bit muddy and
unpredictable. Almost any method (except percolators) can make
quality coffee, though there are some differences.

More important than the method is fresh ground coffee. If you buy
pre-ground, you're already limiting yourself to mediocre coffee at best.



I use the same approach sans fresh grinding (which would clearly make it
better). This is a one of the old hassle reward equations. I find not
having to schlep or power a grinder on my little boat is worth the
tradeoff for the short, one week, cruises we take. Longer cruises and
bigger boat -- different formula.

But removing the paper filter to throw out the grinds simplifies
cleaning and my old Nissan stainless does keep coffee hot for at least
4-5 hours if unopened.

I like the idea of two smaller thermoses both for storage and so one
remains unopened longer but I fell prey to the bigger is better idea.

h

--
To respond, obviously drop the "nospan"?

engsol May 19th 05 05:01 PM

On Wed, 18 May 2005 20:26:06 -0400, prodigal1 wrote:

engsol wrote:
I'm a coffee 'snob' at home...exotic blends, grinder, etc.,but on the boat,
I get along fine with Folger's Singles...think coffee in a tea bag.
It's drinkable, and no clean-up.


philistine! you should be forced to watch reruns of Regis and
whatever-her-name-is in perpetuity for this blasphemy ;-)


Forgive me...for I have sinned.
As pentance I promise to drink three cups of Sanka, go forth, and sin no more...:)


Phil May 19th 05 05:04 PM

Switch to whisky.........


"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message
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"Terry Spragg" wrote in message
...
Denis Marier wrote:
I wonder what is the best way to make coffee while sailing alone.
TIA


A sterno swing stove. Single burner, makes a cuppa in few minutes, or
heats wieners and beans, or soup.

A better plan: make a thermos extra at breakfast.


Where do you get a thermos that will keep coffee warm for 5 or 6
days? Anybody thought of using a stove?

Terry K






engsol May 19th 05 05:04 PM

On Wed, 18 May 2005 16:12:14 -0400, Jeff wrote:

engsol wrote:

I'm a coffee 'snob' at home...exotic blends, grinder, etc.,but on the boat,
I get along fine with Folger's Singles...think coffee in a tea bag.
It's drinkable, and no clean-up.


If you don't roast your own, you're not a "coffee snob." On my last
one year cruise I left with 25 pounds of green beans (about a 6 month
supply - I needed replenishment partway) and roasted weekly on the BBQ
with a WhirleyPop.


You're right...maybe I'm just a "coffee snob" wannabe, and lazy...:)

prodigal1 May 20th 05 03:24 AM

engsol wrote:

Forgive me...for I have sinned.
As pentance I promise to drink three cups of Sanka, go forth, and sin no more...:)


Sanka!!!?! aaahhh!!! unclean!!! it burns us!!!


surfnturf May 20th 05 03:46 AM


"Phil" wrote in message
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Switch to whisky.........


Or try chocholate covered coffee beans.



[email protected] May 20th 05 07:35 AM

WhirleyPop.

Ok, what's a Whirly Pop?


Jeff May 20th 05 01:02 PM

wrote:
WhirleyPop.



Ok, what's a Whirly Pop?


Scroll down to about the middle of the page:
http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.stovetop-popper.shtml

BTW, I've roasted most of the coffee I've had at home for the last 15
years, much of it purchased from Sweet Maria's. I currently use the
AlpenRost and IRoast machines shown at the top of the page. The
machines add about a dollar a pound to the coffee, but the beans are
somewhat cheaper and higher quality than you can get at the
supermarket, or even the gourmet stores.

For example, most of the very good beans are 5 to 6 dollars, the top
quality Costa Rican is $7 (from the same farm its $16 at the local top
rated roastery). If you like Kona, you get get it for $15 a pound
when you might pay $18 for a half pound from a roastery.

The real advantage is that I always have fresh coffee, roasted just
the way I like it. The downside is that you must roast at least 12
hours in advance, because the coffee must "rest" for a while before
brewing. If I forget to roast the night before, its tea for breakfast!

For trips up to a month, I roast up a lot, measure out daily
"baggies," and then seal 6 or so into Foodmaster vacuum bags. These
can be frozen for longer trips.

Tips for coffee: The water should be clean and very hot, just off a
boil. The flaw in cheap brewers is that the water is tepid by the
time it hits the coffee. Beans should be ground just before brewing.
If you must use preground, keep it air tight, and don't keep it in
the fridge or freezer for daily use. (Every time you open it moisture
condenses onto it!) If you don't use it within 15 minutes of brewing,
decant into a Thermos.

And most of all, Starbucks roasts that way because it hides the flaws
in cheap coffee, not because it tastes better. If you like coffee
flavored milk, its fine.

Gordon Wedman May 20th 05 07:58 PM


"prodigal1" wrote in message
...
engsol wrote:

Forgive me...for I have sinned. As pentance I promise to drink three cups
of Sanka, go forth, and sin no more...:)


Sanka!!!?! aaahhh!!! unclean!!! it burns us!!!


Yes, I agree. I don't know how they can sell that stuff. It is the worst
"coffee" on the planet.



rhys May 21st 05 03:42 AM

On Wed, 18 May 2005 16:36:34 GMT, Red Cloud©
wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2005 16:24:56 GMT, "Denis Marier"
wrote:

I do not know what is a French press. Is a Bodum coffee maker?


Yes, that is the type. Bodum is probably the biggest manufacturer of
french press coffee makers. The one I have at home is from Bodum, and
is made of pyrex glass. If you do a google search for "french press",
you will find lots of websites with instructions on how to use one
properly. The one I have on my boat is made of unbreakable lexan
plastic, and is not from Bodum. I bought it at a camping equipment
store.


I just took the boat's Bodum from the galley and into the knapsack as
we are going camping tomorrow...It makes delicious coffee, but
remember to use a coarse grind. Add a bit of cinnamon...mmm!

Mountain Equipment Co-op makes a hand-cranked coffee grinder that's
ultra light for metrosexual camping...but it's the right weight for a
J/30 G.

R.

Doug Dotson May 21st 05 04:10 AM


"rhys" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 May 2005 16:36:34 GMT, Red Cloud©
wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2005 16:24:56 GMT, "Denis Marier"
wrote:

I do not know what is a French press. Is a Bodum coffee maker?


Yes, that is the type. Bodum is probably the biggest manufacturer of
french press coffee makers. The one I have at home is from Bodum, and
is made of pyrex glass. If you do a google search for "french press",
you will find lots of websites with instructions on how to use one
properly. The one I have on my boat is made of unbreakable lexan
plastic, and is not from Bodum. I bought it at a camping equipment
store.


I just took the boat's Bodum from the galley and into the knapsack as
we are going camping tomorrow...It makes delicious coffee, but
remember to use a coarse grind. Add a bit of cinnamon...mmm!


Yuk! Real men drink their coffee strong and black.

Mountain Equipment Co-op makes a hand-cranked coffee grinder that's
ultra light for metrosexual camping...but it's the right weight for a
J/30 G.


I'm afraid to ask what the hell is metrosexual camping? I that one that
doesn't
camp but dresses up like a camper?

R.




prodigal1 May 21st 05 12:24 PM

Doug Dotson wrote:

I'm afraid to ask what the hell is metrosexual camping? I that one that
doesn't
camp but dresses up like a camper?


kinda...think Fab 5 go camping...herbal-scented SPF30 combo
bug-repellant lotions...zuchinni fritatta's done in seasoned cast-iron
pans over hand-picked Colorado Blue Spruce deadfall cooking
fires...gallons of over-wooded California Chard's -cos it's cool to be
uncool- hours and hours and hours of that mind-numbing ****e the kids
call "dance music" playing from a solar-powered Bose audio system
tastefully concealed in the knot of a tree...y'know...really getting
back to nature

prodigal1 May 22nd 05 02:44 AM

Red Cloud® wrote:

Funny!

My wife and I went for a nice sail today.


I would like to have gone for a sail today, but I had to repair a
rudder. :-( I'm so done with the thing soaking up water and then
bursting through the skin in the winter, I'm thinking of having a copy
of the damn thing milled out of aluminum.

Our boat and our house are separated
by a 40 minute drive through farms, colonial villages and forests. We enjoy the
drive back and forth as part of the outing. Our back yard neighbor is a horse
farm. As I turned into our road, I saw a kid riding a horse into the woods. He
was TALKING ON A CELL PHONE!


jeezus what _did_ we do without those fscking things before?

rusty redcloud


Doug Dotson May 22nd 05 06:52 PM


"Red Cloud®" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 21 May 2005 07:24:37 -0400, prodigal1 wrote:

... As I turned into our road, I saw a kid riding a horse into the woods.
He
was TALKING ON A CELL PHONE!

rusty redcloud


And your point? I suspect he had a digital watch on as well. Perhaps
eyeglasses.




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