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[email protected] April 19th 05 04:56 PM

Piracy Report: 4-4-05 thru 4-16-05
 

Hmmm... the natives have been restless!

The following is a summary of the daily reports broadcast
by the IMB's Piracy Reporting Centre to ships in Atlantic,
Indian and Pacific Ocean Regions on the SafetyNET service
of Inmarsat-C from April 4 to April 16th.
---------------------------------------------------------

4-04-05 at 0130 LT SW of Sembilan Is., Malacca Straits.

A boat chased a container ship underway on stbd beam and
came close to port quarter. Alarm was raised and crew
mustered. 45 mins later boat abandoned chase.

4-05-05 at 1615 LT Singapore straits.

Seven small boats surrounded a tanker underway. Persons in
one boat attempted to board at stern during heavy rain and
poor visibility. Crew activated fire hoses and ship increased speed.
Boarding was averted.

4-05-05 at 1625 LT Gulf of Oman.

A small vessel approached a supply ship underway and tried
to come alongside. Master took evasive manoeuvres and sounded whistle.
Suspect vessel moved away.

4-08-05 at 0345 LT Singapore straits.

Several small boats surrounded a bulk carrier underway and
persons inside attempted to board on both sides from bow to stern.
Master took evasive manoeuvres, sounded whistle,
directed search lights and crew activated fire hoses. Attempt continued
for about 50 mins and boats moved away.

4-08-05 at 2320 LT Johor, Malaysia.

Ten robbers armed with knives boarded a tanker. They tied
hands of master and other crewmembers with plastic strings
and robbed ship's property and crew personal belongings.
One crewmember was injured. Robbers escaped in a speed boat.

4-09-05 at 0500 LT Malacca Straits.

A speedboat doing over 23 knots approached a tanker underway
at port quarter. When boat came within three cables crew
sounded whistle and directed searchlights and boat moved away.

4-09-05 at 0600 LT Kakap Natuna oil terminal, South China Sea.

Two fishing boats doing 15 kts approached a tanker underway.
They came within one mile from both sides. Crew directed searchlights
and activated fire hoses and boats moved away.

4-10-05 at 0520 LT Pulau Laut anchorage, Indonesia.

Eight robbers armed with knives boarded a bulk carrier. They
stole a liferaft, communication equipment, stores and escaped.

4-10-05 at 1200 UTC Off eastern coast of Somalia.

Armed pirates boarded a ship underway. They took hostage all
17 crewmembers, hijacked the ship and forced her to anchor
close to Somali coast. IMB piracy reporting centre alerted relevant
authorities. Further news is awaited.

4-11-05 at 0100 LT Buzios, Brazil.

Pirates armed with guns, pistols and knives boarded a yacht.
They stole cash, documents and property and escaped.

4-11-05 at 0430 LT Belawan port, Indonesia.

Three robbers armed with long knives boarded a tanker at forecastle
during cargo operations. D/O raised alarm, sounded whistle and crew
mustered. Robbers jumped into sea and escaped
in a high speedboat with ship's stores.

4-11-05 at 1200 UTC South China Sea.

Two boats, one unlit, followed a tanker. When boats came within four
cables, crew mustered, sounded whistle and switched on lights and boats
moved away.

4-11-05 at 1700 UTC East coast of Sri Lanka.

Two unlit speedboats approached a container ship underway at
stbd quarter. When boats came close crew directed searchlights and
boats moved away.

4-12-05 at 0200 LT Jakarta anchorage, Indonesia.

Armed robbers boarded a bulk carrier and attempted to enter
engine room. Alert crew raised alarm and robbers escaped in a
speedboat.

4-14-05 at 0800 UTC Malacca straits.

An airborne helicopter from a French warship spotted four 15m
long boats, powered by three outboard engines with their front covered
by canvas. Each boat was manned by two persons wearing masks. Boats
approached a container ship underway and came within
300 metres. Upon sighting the helicopter, boats altered course
and headed towards Indonesian coast.

4-16-05 at 2230 LT Tg. Priok port, Indonesia.

A robber mingled with stevedores and stole equipment from a general
cargo ship. Duty crew recovered the equipment and robber escaped empty
handed.
------------------------------------------------------------

ALERT:

Somalian waters - after a quiet spell, serious attacks have resumed
off Somalia.

Since March 31, 2005, three incidents were reported where pirates
armed with guns and grenades have attacked ships and fired upon them.

These attacks took place far away from Somali coast. Eastern and north
eastern coasts of Somalia continue to be high-risk areas
for hijackings.

Ships not making scheduled calls to ports in these areas should stay
away from the coast.


Falky foo April 20th 05 02:21 AM

Damn, guess I should think twice about summering in Somalia this year. The
wife will be disappointed :(




wrote in message
ups.com...

Hmmm... the natives have been restless!

The following is a summary of the daily reports broadcast
by the IMB's Piracy Reporting Centre to ships in Atlantic,
Indian and Pacific Ocean Regions on the SafetyNET service
of Inmarsat-C from April 4 to April 16th.




Joe Bleau April 20th 05 04:36 AM



It appears that all but one of these many acts of piracy was committed
by Muslims.

Once upon a time the USA had the common sense, the will and the sense
of self preservation to punish pirates, viz the Barbary Pirates who
were severely curtailed by the U.S. Navy and the U.S. Marines in the
early 1800s. (Hence "The Shores of Tripoli" in the Marine anthem) It
is worth noting that the Barbary Pirates were also Muslims

Today we could not possibly do so because it would be soooo
politically incorrect to persecute any member of this "great"
religion. Why, the ACLU would have the government in court faster
than a personal injury lawyer at a plane crash site and the "New York
Times" would come out with banner attack headlines. The rest of the
American main-stream media would follow in lock-step.

Flame away, liberal assholes!




wrote in message
oups.com...

Hmmm... the natives have been restless!

The following is a summary of the daily reports broadcast
by the IMB's Piracy Reporting Centre to ships in Atlantic,
Indian and Pacific Ocean Regions on the SafetyNET service
of Inmarsat-C from April 4 to April 16th.




Falky foo April 20th 05 04:42 AM

Flame away, liberal assholes!

Ok.. You're a fag




Joe Bleau April 20th 05 05:37 AM

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 01:21:10 GMT, "Falky foo"
wrote:

Damn, guess I should think twice about summering in Somalia this year. The
wife will be disappointed :(


Is your wife's name Bruce? Were your married in Massachusetts? San
Francisco?

Falky foo April 20th 05 07:52 AM


Is your wife's name Bruce? Were your married in Massachusetts? San
Francisco?


um, yer an idiot, but the reason I'm plonking you is just cuz yer trying too
damn hard to get attention.... god I wish I could erase people from my real
life as easily as I can here.

PLONK



Brian Whatcott April 20th 05 01:02 PM

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:36:23 -0400, Joe Bleau
wrote:

The rest of the
American main-stream media would follow in lock-step.

Flame away, liberal assholes!



ugh...a cowardly little anonymous poster, hiding behing his anonymous
lacy skirts.....

Brian Whatcott Altus, OK

Paul Schilter April 20th 05 07:20 PM

Joe,
The fact they are Muslims is irrelevant. It doesn't matter what their
culture is. They're Pirates, that's all that relevant, and should be
dealt with on that basis, and no this isn't a flame, just a difference
of opinion.
Paul


Joe Bleau wrote:

It appears that all but one of these many acts of piracy was committed
by Muslims.

Once upon a time the USA had the common sense, the will and the sense
of self preservation to punish pirates, viz the Barbary Pirates who
were severely curtailed by the U.S. Navy and the U.S. Marines in the
early 1800s. (Hence "The Shores of Tripoli" in the Marine anthem) It
is worth noting that the Barbary Pirates were also Muslims

Today we could not possibly do so because it would be soooo
politically incorrect to persecute any member of this "great"
religion. Why, the ACLU would have the government in court faster
than a personal injury lawyer at a plane crash site and the "New York
Times" would come out with banner attack headlines. The rest of the
American main-stream media would follow in lock-step.

Flame away, liberal assholes!




wrote in message
roups.com...

Hmmm... the natives have been restless!

The following is a summary of the daily reports broadcast
by the IMB's Piracy Reporting Centre to ships in Atlantic,
Indian and Pacific Ocean Regions on the SafetyNET service
of Inmarsat-C from April 4 to April 16th.




Vito April 20th 05 07:56 PM

"Paul Schilter" ""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote
Joe,
The fact they are Muslims is irrelevant......


Maybe. After kicking their butts we offered a peace treaty but their rulers
refused saying that their religion forbade them signing peace treaties with
Christian nations. President Jefferson then assured them that the USA was a
secular nation NOT a Christian nation. Satisfied, they signed the treaty
and quit attacking American shipping altho they continued to attack
Christian ships.



Padeen April 20th 05 09:58 PM

From present media and policy, Jefferson would be hard pressed to prove the
same today.

"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Paul Schilter" ""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote
Joe,
The fact they are Muslims is irrelevant......


Maybe. After kicking their butts we offered a peace treaty but their

rulers
refused saying that their religion forbade them signing peace treaties

with
Christian nations. President Jefferson then assured them that the USA was

a
secular nation NOT a Christian nation. Satisfied, they signed the treaty
and quit attacking American shipping altho they continued to attack
Christian ships.





Joe Bleau April 21st 05 03:55 AM

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:52:04 GMT, "Falky foo"
wrote:


um, yer an idiot, but the reason I'm plonking you is just cuz yer trying too
damn hard to get attention.... god I wish I could erase people from my real
life as easily as I can here.

PLONK

Well, I did have the misfortune of attracting your attention. And,
yes, it does sound as though you might have problems with people in
your "real" life. Perhaps you should talk to your doctor about
increasing your prosac dosage.



Joe Bleau April 21st 05 04:01 AM

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:20:52 -0400, Paul Schilter
""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote:

Joe,
The fact they are Muslims is irrelevant. It doesn't matter what their
culture is. They're Pirates, that's all that relevant, and should be
dealt with on that basis, and no this isn't a flame, just a difference
of opinion.
Paul


Absolutely! The culture makes no difference whatsoever if you are so
committed to leftist doctrine or extreme political correctness that
yhou abandon all common sense. Not a flame. Just my opinion.

Joe

Joe Bleau April 21st 05 04:16 AM

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:02:42 GMT, Brian Whatcott
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:36:23 -0400, Joe Bleau
wrote:

The rest of the
American main-stream media would follow in lock-step.

Flame away, liberal assholes!



ugh...a cowardly little anonymous poster, hiding behing his anonymous
lacy skirts.....

Brian Whatcott Altus, OK


Let' see, Brian Whatcott of Altus, Oklahoma, 99% of the reported
piracy is committed by Muslims. Every last one of the individuals who
hijacked our planes and killed our people on 9-11 were Muslims. They
(Muslims) are allowed to operate schools in our country where their
students are indoctrinated with hatred for our culture (well, what's
left of it). They (the Muslims) are involved in genocide in Africa.
They (the Muslims) are bombing Christian Christian churches in several
countries. They (the Muslims) are persecuting every other religion,
viz. Hinduism, Bahai-la, Buddhism. They are determined to destory
every single being on this earth who does not accept their religion of
blood and vengeance.

I point this out in response to a posting someone else made and I am
"a cowardly little anonymous poster, hiding behind . . . lacy skirts."
Just what kind of nut are you, Brian Whatcott of Altus, Oklahoma.

Joe

rhys April 21st 05 05:14 AM

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:20:52 -0400, Paul Schilter
""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote:

Joe,
The fact they are Muslims is irrelevant. It doesn't matter what their
culture is. They're Pirates, that's all that relevant, and should be
dealt with on that basis, and no this isn't a flame, just a difference
of opinion.
Paul


In deference to cultural norms, however, if apprehended, the pirates
should have their hands cut off.

Yep, that seems PC to me.

R.

Lee Huddleston April 21st 05 06:11 AM

It appears that all but one of these many acts of piracy was committed
by Muslims.

Once upon a time the USA had the common sense, the will and the sense
of self preservation to punish pirates, viz the Barbary Pirates who
were severely curtailed by the U.S. Navy and the U.S. Marines in the
early 1800s. (Hence "The Shores of Tripoli" in the Marine anthem) It
is worth noting that the Barbary Pirates were also Muslims

Today we could not possibly do so because it would be soooo
politically incorrect to persecute any member of this "great"
religion. Why, the ACLU would have the government in court faster
than a personal injury lawyer at a plane crash site and the "New York
Times" would come out with banner attack headlines. The rest of the
American main-stream media would follow in lock-step.

Flame away, liberal assholes!


There are bad Muslims and good Muslims, just as there are bad
Christians and good Christians. Prejudice means to pre judge, that
is, you make your decision before you have the facts. Prejudice keeps
you from distinguishing between good and bad. You either assume that
all members of some group, race, tribe, or nationality have the exact
same traits. Logic and experience should alert you that such sameness
is very unlikely.

The answer is to look at the facts. For those Muslims who are
pirates, terrorist, murderers etc. let's punish them severely. For
those Muslims who are gentle, caring, productive people, let's
encourage them and befriend them so that they will increase in
numbers. For Christians who murder and steal and try to impose their
religion on everybody else in the world, let's punish them. For those
Christians who love their fellow humans and try to put the loving
teaching of Jesus into practice, let's encourage and befriend them.

All the ACLU is asking you to do is treat individuals as individuals.
If the facts show that a particular person is bad, lay on the
punishment. If the person is good, even though many of his/her group
are bad, do not punish the person for the sins of the majority of the
group. To do otherwise is to wallow in stupidity -- "don't confuse me
with the facts; let me just hate all members of a group without having
to think."

In life it is very important to distinguish between your friends and
your enemies. You cannot do that on a group basis. You have to do it
on a person-by-person basis.

Lee Huddleston

Lee Huddleston April 21st 05 06:28 AM

Joe,

I also note that all the pirates mentioned in the report were men.
Does that mean that we should hate and punish all men in the world?
Including you? No, we should distinguish between good men and bad
men, just as we do between good Muslims and bad Muslims.

Lee Huddleston


Vito April 21st 05 01:50 PM

"Lee Huddleston" wrote
The answer is to look at the facts. For those Muslims who are
pirates, terrorist, murderers etc. let's punish them severely.....
...... For Christians who murder and steal and try to impose their
religion on everybody else in the world, let's punish them.


You mean like Bush and Delay?



Skipper April 21st 05 05:14 PM

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:36:23 -0400, Joe Bleau
wrote:



It appears that all but one of these many acts of piracy was committed
by Muslims.

Once upon a time the USA had the common sense, the will and the sense
of self preservation to punish pirates, viz the Barbary Pirates who
were severely curtailed by the U.S. Navy and the U.S. Marines in the
early 1800s. (Hence "The Shores of Tripoli" in the Marine anthem) It
is worth noting that the Barbary Pirates were also Muslims

Today we could not possibly do so because it would be soooo
politically incorrect to persecute any member of this "great"
religion. Why, the ACLU would have the government in court faster
than a personal injury lawyer at a plane crash site and the "New York
Times" would come out with banner attack headlines. The rest of the
American main-stream media would follow in lock-step.

Flame away, liberal assholes!


If we looked at illegal acts rather than assumed religion, this
could work. How do you know I am not a muslim?

Skipper April 21st 05 05:34 PM

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:16:10 -0400, Joe Bleau
wrote:


Let' see, Brian Whatcott of Altus, Oklahoma, 99% of the reported
piracy is committed by Muslims. Every last one of the individuals who
hijacked our planes and killed our people on 9-11 were Muslims. They
(Muslims) are allowed to operate schools in our country where their
students are indoctrinated with hatred for our culture (well, what's
left of it). They (the Muslims) are involved in genocide in Africa.
They (the Muslims) are bombing Christian Christian churches in several
countries. They (the Muslims) are persecuting every other religion,
viz. Hinduism, Bahai-la, Buddhism. They are determined to destory
every single being on this earth who does not accept their religion of
blood and vengeance.


Joe


Joe,

You say, "They (Muslims) are allowed to operate schools in our
country where their students are indoctrinated with hatred for our
culture (well, what's left of it)."

These are citizens of our Country; they are part of our culture.
They are part of our culture, just like all the Swiss, Norwegian,
Irish, Morroccian, Spanish, Jamician, Hawaiian, Thai, Chinese, Indian,
and Nigerian (To name only a few.) people who have come here and are
now citizens.
The United States has such a rich heritage because we have a truly
world-wide heritage.


Joe,
Are their others, maybe Joe's church, that hate and speak hatred
about fellow citizens?
Do you do this, yourself?

Illegal acts of piracy on the high seas do not make everyone from
that country or religion bad.



Whistledown April 21st 05 07:12 PM

Hey Joe--

Did you know that 100% of Hitler's inner circle, and Hitler,were
Christians?

Isn't enough enough ?! Lets fire up the bulldozers and shove all the
religous folk in a pit and put a lid on it. !


CC Cox April 21st 05 07:26 PM

On 19 Apr 2005 08:56:54 -0700, wrote:


Hmmm... the natives have been restless!

The following is a summary of the daily reports broadcast
by the IMB's Piracy Reporting Centre to ships in Atlantic,
Indian and Pacific Ocean Regions on the SafetyNET service
of Inmarsat-C from April 4 to April 16th.
---------------------------------------------------------

4-04-05 at 0130 LT SW of Sembilan Is., Malacca Straits.

A boat chased a container ship underway on stbd beam and
came close to port quarter. Alarm was raised and crew
mustered. 45 mins later boat abandoned chase.

4-05-05 at 1615 LT Singapore straits.

Seven small boats surrounded a tanker underway. Persons in
one boat attempted to board at stern during heavy rain and
poor visibility. Crew activated fire hoses and ship increased speed.
Boarding was averted.

4-05-05 at 1625 LT Gulf of Oman.

I noticed that a lot of the pirates were repelled with fire hoses. I wonder if
that use is incorporated into the design. A deluge cannon could be a great
defensive weapon, especially if deployed from a good height.

--
Chuck Cox - SynchroSystems
, , www.synchro.com
(my email address is politician-proof, just remove the PORK)

[email protected] April 21st 05 08:21 PM

Chuck... To the best of my knowledge it appears that the "main line
of defense" is the vessel's fire hoses. I know that the container
ship that I "hang out" on... the crew would have to use the convent-
ional system of hoses that are positioned through out the ship.

It would seem that at least one water canon type configuration mounted
at the aft section of the poop deck would be a slick safety addition.

While under way... I have heard a lot of attempted boardings occur
from the rear because this is often a void spot for the ship's radar
and an easy access point due to low entry heights.

Best regards

Bill

M/V Polynesia July 2004
" " Sept 2004
" " June 2005


Lee Huddleston April 22nd 05 01:00 AM

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:50:03 -0400, "Vito" wrote:

"Lee Huddleston" wrote
The answer is to look at the facts. For those Muslims who are
pirates, terrorist, murderers etc. let's punish them severely.....
...... For Christians who murder and steal and try to impose their
religion on everybody else in the world, let's punish them.


You mean like Bush and Delay?

Vito,

Yes!!!!!

Lee H.


rhys April 22nd 05 01:46 AM

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:14:00 -0700, Skipper
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:36:23 -0400, Joe Bleau
wrote:



It appears that all but one of these many acts of piracy was committed
by Muslims.

Once upon a time the USA had the common sense, the will and the sense
of self preservation to punish pirates, viz the Barbary Pirates who
were severely curtailed by the U.S. Navy and the U.S. Marines in the
early 1800s. (Hence "The Shores of Tripoli" in the Marine anthem) It
is worth noting that the Barbary Pirates were also Muslims

Today we could not possibly do so because it would be soooo
politically incorrect to persecute any member of this "great"
religion. Why, the ACLU would have the government in court faster
than a personal injury lawyer at a plane crash site and the "New York
Times" would come out with banner attack headlines. The rest of the
American main-stream media would follow in lock-step.

Flame away, liberal assholes!


If we looked at illegal acts rather than assumed religion, this
could work. How do you know I am not a muslim?


Because a Muslim would call himself "amir al-bahr"?

Heh, just kidding. All monotheists are alike to me. Only sailors are
individuals.

R.

Joe Bleau April 22nd 05 06:34 AM

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:34:47 -0700, Skipper
wrote:


Joe


Joe,

You say, "They (Muslims) are allowed to operate schools in our
country where their students are indoctrinated with hatred for our
culture (well, what's left of it)."

These are citizens of our Country; they are part of our culture.
They are part of our culture, just like all the Swiss, Norwegian,
Irish, Morroccian, Spanish, Jamician, Hawaiian, Thai, Chinese, Indian,
and Nigerian (To name only a few.) people who have come here and are
now citizens.
The United States has such a rich heritage because we have a truly
world-wide heritage.


Joe,
Are their others, maybe Joe's church, that hate and speak hatred
about fellow citizens?
Do you do this, yourself?

Illegal acts of piracy on the high seas do not make everyone from
that country or religion bad.

Skipper--

You assume a great deal when you speculate about what they teach at my
church. I do not happen to have one, so don't try to disparage my
reasoning by attempting to associate me with the religious right. I
agree with them on some things as I disagree with them on others.

My thesis is rather simple: Muslims (Yes, Skipper, a generalization)
have been hating those who were not totally adherent to their abberant
religion since Mohammed was practicing pedophelia back in the Sixth
Century. The uninterrupted history of Islam is one of hatred of, and
war against, all unbelievers. They were one of the greatest threats
that has ever existed to Western culture (and all other cultures as
well). They overran the Iberian peninsula and were not thrown out
until Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain forced them out in the 14th
Cent. Charles Martel stopped them in France a few centuries before
that but they persisted in invading and occupying parts of southern
France for a long time after that, burning churches and monasteries
and wreaking havoc wherever they went. They almost overran Europe
again in the 16th Cent. and actually made it to the gates of Vienna
before being turned back by Europeans who, unlike some of the Muslim
defenders in this gorup were willing to fight for the preservation of
their culture (again, not that there is a lot of our culture
left--thanks to the mindless type of imbecil who rushes to defend them
in the name of "tolerance."

Today, the Muslims continue their bloody persecution of their
neighbors and other non-believers throughout the world, in Thailand,
in India, in Africa, in the Philippines, in eastern Europe, in the
former Soviet Union, in the Middle East, even in China. In Africa
they have actually committed genocide and, incidentally, how did you
like their recent slaughter of those innocent school children in
Russia. As these words are being written Muslims (the leftist press
in this country describe them as "extremists," in an attempt to excuse
the main body of Islam) are doing every thing they can to devise a way
of killing hundreds of thousands of our fellow citizens right here in
the USA through the acquisition and detonation of an atomic bomb or
through the release of biological agents that could potentially even
kill millions.

Of course there are good Muslims who reject what is being done but
their condemnation of these horrific acts has not exactly been
deafening. Just observe their principal television station Al
Jazeera. That there are good Muslims has absolutely nothing
whatsoever to do with the thrust of Muslim jihad against all the other
people in the world. Islam is a religion of indescribable
intolerance, of bitter hatred for those who do not accept it. For more
than fourteen hundred years Islam has waged bloody wars against those
with whom it disagrees.

The poor misled souls in this NG who rush to defend Islam in the name
of "tolerance" and "non-discrimination" are simpletons who have been
so brainwashed by those who are leading our country and our
civilization down the path of self destruction and cultural suicide
that they don't even recognize how their own existence and that of
their prodigy is in greater danger than they can begin to imagine.

The United States of America, the last superpower, is in graver danger
than it has ever been. It will not be conquered by an alien nation,
it is much too powerful. It will be destroyed from within through
cultural suicide. Sadly we are witnessing that suicide in the type of
comments appearing here. It is just a tad distressing because I had
always harbored an illusion that sailors, because of the self-reliance
and independence that the sea demands, were a more discerning lot. Of
course, not everyone in the NG thinks as Skipper and Huddleston seem
to think but the number of people in America who are on their
wavelength probably constitute the majority. That's why we are in
such danger.

Joe



Whistledown April 22nd 05 03:49 PM

looks like somebody has had their brain removed by that Mike Savage
fella.

Either that or Joe has two brains. . . one's lost and the other is out
looking for it.

I'm amazed at how these conservatives whine and act victimized --- as
if the liberals were kicking their asses. Lets see, there's a born
again xian republican in the white house, there is a majority rebup.
senate and congress. . .
Gee, I guess you poor conservatives are on the ropes. Espcially with
Fox news the rest of the liberal media bending reality.


prodigal1 April 22nd 05 09:43 PM

Joe Bleau wrote:
horse**** snipped

The United States of America, the last superpower, is in graver danger
than it has ever been.


1. correction: the _current_ superpower
2. you are correct, but sadly you and millions of your fellow sheeple
just don't know why
3. haven't I plonked you yet?

*ploink*

ahh... that's better


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