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Garland Gray II April 6th 05 02:26 AM

Opaque fresh water tubing
 
Seems all of the tubing sold by marine outlets for freshwater lines is
transparent, but this allows algae to thrive.
Is there a source for food grade tubing that is opaque (actually I found
some Tygon, but wouldn't take the pressure)?
It would be such a waste to wack two feet off a 50 ft length of marine
water hose....



Doug Dotson April 6th 05 05:10 AM

Most marine suppliers carry opaque hose specifically for domestic
water systems. Check out your West Marine catalog.

Doug

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:rVG4e.109367$SF.53819@lakeread08...
Seems all of the tubing sold by marine outlets for freshwater lines is
transparent, but this allows algae to thrive.
Is there a source for food grade tubing that is opaque (actually I found
some Tygon, but wouldn't take the pressure)?
It would be such a waste to wack two feet off a 50 ft length of marine
water hose....





Garland Gray II April 7th 05 03:42 AM

I looked and have now looked again at the West catalog, with no success. The
West store told me they sold only the clear hose, some w/ braid.
They do have Shields multi-purpose hose, but is much too stiff. Also Whale,
but that is not very flexible.

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message
...
Most marine suppliers carry opaque hose specifically for domestic
water systems. Check out your West Marine catalog.

Doug

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:rVG4e.109367$SF.53819@lakeread08...
Seems all of the tubing sold by marine outlets for freshwater lines is
transparent, but this allows algae to thrive.
Is there a source for food grade tubing that is opaque (actually I found
some Tygon, but wouldn't take the pressure)?
It would be such a waste to wack two feet off a 50 ft length of marine
water hose....







Doug Dotson April 7th 05 04:09 AM

I don't have a 2005 West Marine catalog, but I do have the 2005 Port
Supply catalog. I'm pretty sure they are the same. The opaque tubing
is available as either "Sea Tech " or the "Whale Water System", both on
page 542. My boat was plumbed with the old gray Polybutyl tubing which
is now illegal. I'm looking to replace it. You might also check out the
AquaPex system but you need a $$ tool to use it.

Doug

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:J615e.30$wL.11@lakeread07...
I looked and have now looked again at the West catalog, with no success.
The
West store told me they sold only the clear hose, some w/ braid.
They do have Shields multi-purpose hose, but is much too stiff. Also
Whale,
but that is not very flexible.

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message
...
Most marine suppliers carry opaque hose specifically for domestic
water systems. Check out your West Marine catalog.

Doug

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:rVG4e.109367$SF.53819@lakeread08...
Seems all of the tubing sold by marine outlets for freshwater lines is
transparent, but this allows algae to thrive.
Is there a source for food grade tubing that is opaque (actually I
found
some Tygon, but wouldn't take the pressure)?
It would be such a waste to wack two feet off a 50 ft length of marine
water hose....









Larry W4CSC April 7th 05 05:17 AM

Please don't tell me you all are drinking water contaminated with algae so
bad you have to keep it in the dark to prevent the algae ALREADY IN THE
WATER from growing in your water system......yecch!

Unless the water is ALREADY contaminated, IT WON'T GROW ALGAE!

and your families are DRINKING this crap without boiling it first?!!


Doug Dotson April 7th 05 01:15 PM

You don't have much experience with marine freshwater systems. I made
the mistake of replumbing part of my system with clear hose. Been a pain
ever since. Redoing it is on my todo list.

Doug

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
Please don't tell me you all are drinking water contaminated with algae so
bad you have to keep it in the dark to prevent the algae ALREADY IN THE
WATER from growing in your water system......yecch!

Unless the water is ALREADY contaminated, IT WON'T GROW ALGAE!

and your families are DRINKING this crap without boiling it first?!!




marley April 7th 05 03:42 PM

Doug Dotson wrote:

You don't have much experience with marine freshwater systems. I made
the mistake of replumbing part of my system with clear hose. Been a pain
ever since. Redoing it is on my todo list.

Doug

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...

Please don't tell me you all are drinking water contaminated with algae so
bad you have to keep it in the dark to prevent the algae ALREADY IN THE
WATER from growing in your water system......yecch!

Unless the water is ALREADY contaminated, IT WON'T GROW ALGAE!

and your families are DRINKING this crap without boiling it first?!!





This thread needs input from Peggie I think.

To be candid I am not clear as to why clear hose would pose a problem.
First off, there is (hopefully) no algae in the tank, although
admittedly it might be added from dock water by accident.

But if the algae requires light to grow as you say, and opaque plumbing
corrects the problem I am still unclear. My plumbing (ALL of it) is
either running through blige, behind cabinets, or under the cabin sole.
It's dark everywhere the hose passes. So what do I gain with opaque
plumbing?

Please explain.

M

Doug Dotson April 7th 05 11:21 PM


"marley" wrote in message
...
Doug Dotson wrote:

You don't have much experience with marine freshwater systems. I made
the mistake of replumbing part of my system with clear hose. Been a pain
ever since. Redoing it is on my todo list.

Doug

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...

Please don't tell me you all are drinking water contaminated with algae
so
bad you have to keep it in the dark to prevent the algae ALREADY IN THE
WATER from growing in your water system......yecch!

Unless the water is ALREADY contaminated, IT WON'T GROW ALGAE!

and your families are DRINKING this crap without boiling it first?!!





This thread needs input from Peggie I think.


I've never known Peggie to deal with fresh water systems.

To be candid I am not clear as to why clear hose would pose a problem.
First off, there is (hopefully) no algae in the tank, although admittedly
it might be added from dock water by accident.


Ever heard of well water? Algae isn't the major player, bacteria is.

But if the algae requires light to grow as you say, and opaque plumbing
corrects the problem I am still unclear.


It doesn;t correct it, it minimizes it. Some barteriacide in the tanks is
prudent.

My plumbing (ALL of it) is either running through blige, behind cabinets,
or under the cabin sole. It's dark everywhere the hose passes. So what do
I gain with opaque plumbing?


The new clear tubing I unstalled when installing some new equipment has
resulted in an endless chase of getting rid of bad water. The clear tubing
is
under sinks. Enough light gets in to cause the problem.


Please explain.

M




Garland Gray II April 8th 05 02:37 AM

Alll of my plumbing consists of Whale system except for short lengths of
(flexible) tubing either side of the pump. It's those short lengths that I
want to (will) replace. Flexibility is needed to be able to disconnect the
pump.
I didn't realise that polybute had been used in boats. My understanding is
that while there were problems w/ some versions (not all) of the fittings,
there was little problem w/ the pipe itself. Maybe some of the early stuff
could be damaged by acidic water.

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message
...
I don't have a 2005 West Marine catalog, but I do have the 2005 Port
Supply catalog. I'm pretty sure they are the same. The opaque tubing
is available as either "Sea Tech " or the "Whale Water System", both on
page 542. My boat was plumbed with the old gray Polybutyl tubing which
is now illegal. I'm looking to replace it. You might also check out the
AquaPex system but you need a $$ tool to use it.

Doug

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:J615e.30$wL.11@lakeread07...
I looked and have now looked again at the West catalog, with no success.
The
West store told me they sold only the clear hose, some w/ braid.
They do have Shields multi-purpose hose, but is much too stiff. Also
Whale,
but that is not very flexible.

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message
...
Most marine suppliers carry opaque hose specifically for domestic
water systems. Check out your West Marine catalog.

Doug

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:rVG4e.109367$SF.53819@lakeread08...
Seems all of the tubing sold by marine outlets for freshwater lines

is
transparent, but this allows algae to thrive.
Is there a source for food grade tubing that is opaque (actually I
found
some Tygon, but wouldn't take the pressure)?
It would be such a waste to wack two feet off a 50 ft length of

marine
water hose....











Garland Gray II April 8th 05 02:40 AM

Don't usually drink it w/o filtering first, but first water released after
sitting for a while... stinks.

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
Please don't tell me you all are drinking water contaminated with algae so
bad you have to keep it in the dark to prevent the algae ALREADY IN THE
WATER from growing in your water system......yecch!

Unless the water is ALREADY contaminated, IT WON'T GROW ALGAE!

and your families are DRINKING this crap without boiling it first?!!




Garland Gray II April 8th 05 02:42 AM

It's not that dark. Enough light leaks in.
"marley" wrote in message
...
Doug Dotson wrote:

You don't have much experience with marine freshwater systems. I made
the mistake of replumbing part of my system with clear hose. Been a pain
ever since. Redoing it is on my todo list.

Doug

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...

Please don't tell me you all are drinking water contaminated with algae

so
bad you have to keep it in the dark to prevent the algae ALREADY IN THE
WATER from growing in your water system......yecch!

Unless the water is ALREADY contaminated, IT WON'T GROW ALGAE!

and your families are DRINKING this crap without boiling it first?!!





This thread needs input from Peggie I think.

To be candid I am not clear as to why clear hose would pose a problem.
First off, there is (hopefully) no algae in the tank, although
admittedly it might be added from dock water by accident.

But if the algae requires light to grow as you say, and opaque plumbing
corrects the problem I am still unclear. My plumbing (ALL of it) is
either running through blige, behind cabinets, or under the cabin sole.
It's dark everywhere the hose passes. So what do I gain with opaque
plumbing?

Please explain.

M




Garland Gray II April 8th 05 02:47 AM

I suspect enough light leaks in.
I've not yet found opaque drinking water tubing (hose) by the foot, so I
will probably just cover clear w/ electrical tape.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 08:15:58 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom said:

You don't have much experience with marine freshwater systems. I made
the mistake of replumbing part of my system with clear hose. Been a pain
ever since.


On my boat the fw tubing goes through covered lockers. I should think

light
shouldn't be a problem, no?




Doug Dotson April 8th 05 02:55 AM

As I recall, the problem was the outgassing of nasties that are bad for
us peoples.

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:yfl5e.91$yO2.6@lakeread07...
Alll of my plumbing consists of Whale system except for short lengths of
(flexible) tubing either side of the pump. It's those short lengths that I
want to (will) replace. Flexibility is needed to be able to disconnect the
pump.
I didn't realise that polybute had been used in boats. My understanding is
that while there were problems w/ some versions (not all) of the fittings,
there was little problem w/ the pipe itself. Maybe some of the early stuff
could be damaged by acidic water.

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message
...
I don't have a 2005 West Marine catalog, but I do have the 2005 Port
Supply catalog. I'm pretty sure they are the same. The opaque tubing
is available as either "Sea Tech " or the "Whale Water System", both on
page 542. My boat was plumbed with the old gray Polybutyl tubing which
is now illegal. I'm looking to replace it. You might also check out the
AquaPex system but you need a $$ tool to use it.

Doug

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:J615e.30$wL.11@lakeread07...
I looked and have now looked again at the West catalog, with no success.
The
West store told me they sold only the clear hose, some w/ braid.
They do have Shields multi-purpose hose, but is much too stiff. Also
Whale,
but that is not very flexible.

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message
...
Most marine suppliers carry opaque hose specifically for domestic
water systems. Check out your West Marine catalog.

Doug

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:rVG4e.109367$SF.53819@lakeread08...
Seems all of the tubing sold by marine outlets for freshwater lines

is
transparent, but this allows algae to thrive.
Is there a source for food grade tubing that is opaque (actually I
found
some Tygon, but wouldn't take the pressure)?
It would be such a waste to wack two feet off a 50 ft length of

marine
water hose....














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