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Wondering about Peggie Hall . . .
It seems strange to me that Peggie Hall has made a life out of sewage.
I wonder how any individual, whose **** obviously doesn't stink, became entrenched in human waste in the first place. Peggie, can you enlighten the group as to what motivated your initial foray into sewage? In my opinion, all one needs to know about yacht sanitation systems is two words - cedar bucket! CN |
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You expect Peggie to answer this? That would really be foraying into sewage. Paul Capt. Neal® wrote: It seems strange to me that Peggie Hall has made a life out of sewage. I wonder how any individual, whose **** obviously doesn't stink, became entrenched in human waste in the first place. Peggie, can you enlighten the group as to what motivated your initial foray into sewage? In my opinion, all one needs to know about yacht sanitation systems is two words - cedar bucket! CN |
(I know I'm gonna regret this...but I'm gonna assume that for once Neal
is asking a serious question and answer it) Capt. Neal® wrote: It seems strange to me that Peggie Hall has made a life out of sewage. But I haven't made a life out of sewage...I've made a career of solving the problems--especially odor problems--that holding tanks and sanitation plumbing create for many boat owners. That has required me to learn a bit about the nature of the stuff...but if you'd been paying any attention at all, you'd know that I rarely discuss sewage per se, but only what's legal and what's not, how various marine sanitation equipment and systems work, and how to install, operate, repair, and maintain it to cure--better yet, prevent--problems with it. Peggie, can you enlighten the group as to what motivated your initial foray into sewage? The need to solve a horrible odor problem on the first boat I ever owned that had a holding tank. I did solve it...other people who had the same problem wanted to know how I did it...and a business was born--at first just a small "business on the side" that grew into a full blown career. I'd already spent the better part of 20 years in advertising...some people don't think that marine sanitation was that much of a career leap. :) In my opinion, all one needs to know about yacht sanitation systems is two words - cedar bucket! 'Tain't legal, Neal. Federal law prohibits the discharge of raw sewage ("human body wastes and the wastes from toilets and other receptacles intended to receive or retain body wastes") in ALL US waters...and defines "discharge" as "includes, but is not limited to, any spilling, leaking, pumping, pouring, emitting, emptying, or dumping." That makes "bucket and chuck it" illegal anywhere but in open sea at least 3 miles from the nearest point on the whole US coastline. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1 |
"Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... (I know I'm gonna regret this...but I'm gonna assume that for once Neal is asking a serious question and answer it) Capt. Neal® wrote: It seems strange to me that Peggie Hall has made a life out of sewage. But I haven't made a life out of sewage...I've made a career of solving the problems--especially odor problems--that holding tanks and sanitation plumbing create for many boat owners. That has required me to learn a bit about the nature of the stuff...but if you'd been paying any attention at all, you'd know that I rarely discuss sewage per se, but only what's legal and what's not, how various marine sanitation equipment and systems work, and how to install, operate, repair, and maintain it to cure--better yet, prevent--problems with it. Peggie, can you enlighten the group as to what motivated your initial foray into sewage? The need to solve a horrible odor problem on the first boat I ever owned that had a holding tank. I did solve it...other people who had the same problem wanted to know how I did it...and a business was born--at first just a small "business on the side" that grew into a full blown career. I'd already spent the better part of 20 years in advertising...some people don't think that marine sanitation was that much of a career leap. :) In my opinion, all one needs to know about yacht sanitation systems is two words - cedar bucket! 'Tain't legal, Neal. Federal law prohibits the discharge of raw sewage ("human body wastes and the wastes from toilets and other receptacles intended to receive or retain body wastes") in ALL US waters...and defines "discharge" as "includes, but is not limited to, any spilling, leaking, pumping, pouring, emitting, emptying, or dumping." That makes "bucket and chuck it" illegal anywhere but in open sea at least 3 miles from the nearest point on the whole US coastline. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1 Ha ha ha! Good reply ;-) CN |
Peggie, does that mean that the simple act of peeing overboard under the
cover of darkness is illegal? Padeen |
Padeen wrote:
Peggie, does that mean that the simple act of peeing overboard under the cover of darkness is illegal? Nope..."direct deposit" from above the water or while in it is legal, both under cover of darkness and in broad daylight. It's only illegal if it goes into any kind of container or installed device before it's sent overboard. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1 |
So secure the bucket to the sternrail after first removing the bottom.
And then there's the "Spronk" head for privacy on a multihull ! "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Padeen wrote: Peggie, does that mean that the simple act of peeing overboard under the cover of darkness is illegal? Nope..."direct deposit" from above the water or while in it is legal, both under cover of darkness and in broad daylight. It's only illegal if it goes into any kind of container or installed device before it's sent overboard. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...40&cat=6&page= 1 |
Peggie Hall wrote:
Nope..."direct deposit" from above the water or while in it is legal, both under cover of darkness and in broad daylight. It's only illegal if it goes into any kind of container or installed device before it's sent overboard. I bet our Harbour Police might have something to say about 'direct deposits' from above in broad daylight....and 'real' marine heads are still legal here for the time being....although our skipper 'mooned' a hugh cruise ship to the delight of the passengers while it was preparing to leave. The boys in blue must have been munching on donuts that day. |
Don White wrote:
I bet our Harbour Police might have something to say about 'direct deposits' from above in broad daylight.... I never said anything about indecent exposure! and 'real' marine heads are still legal here for the time being.... If you mean toilets that discharge directly overboard, you can't be anywhere in the US, or on any inland Canadian waters. although our skipper 'mooned' a hugh cruise ship to the delight of the passengers while it was preparing to leave. . Class does have a way of making itself known, doesn't it? :) -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1 |
Peggie Hall wrote:
If you mean toilets that discharge directly overboard, you can't be anywhere in the US, or on any inland Canadian waters. You are right as usual. We sail the Atlantic Coast of Nova Scotia. |
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:30:34 GMT, Peggie Hall wrote:
Don White wrote: I bet our Harbour Police might have something to say about 'direct deposits' from above in broad daylight.... I never said anything about indecent exposure! and 'real' marine heads are still legal here for the time being.... If you mean toilets that discharge directly overboard, you can't be anywhere in the US, or on any inland Canadian waters. although our skipper 'mooned' a hugh cruise ship to the delight of the passengers while it was preparing to leave. . Class does have a way of making itself known, doesn't it? :) Yes, it does, and you've proven it in this thread. Thanks for the 'direct deposit' info. Some of us folks don't have heads on our boats! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
Not to run this subject into the ground, er, water, but wouldn't directly
depositing toilet paper get you for littering if nothing else? BS "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Padeen wrote: Peggie, does that mean that the simple act of peeing overboard under the cover of darkness is illegal? Nope..."direct deposit" from above the water or while in it is legal, both under cover of darkness and in broad daylight. It's only illegal if it goes into any kind of container or installed device before it's sent overboard. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1 |
In "Robert or Karen Swarts" writes:
"Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Padeen wrote: Peggie, does that mean that the simple act of peeing overboard under the cover of darkness is illegal? Nope..."direct deposit" from above the water or while in it is legal, both under cover of darkness and in broad daylight. It's only illegal if it goes into any kind of container or installed device before it's sent overboard. Excuse me, for nitpicking, but I am curious about the interpretation. In our boat the rule is: do not go to the rail for peeing. Pee instead into a small plastic bottle ("duck" we call it) by staying firmly inside the boat and then pour the liquid over the rail. So does this safety measure make it illegal? - Lauri Tarkkonen |
"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message ... In "Robert or Karen Swarts" writes: "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Padeen wrote: Peggie, does that mean that the simple act of peeing overboard under the cover of darkness is illegal? Nope..."direct deposit" from above the water or while in it is legal, both under cover of darkness and in broad daylight. It's only illegal if it goes into any kind of container or installed device before it's sent overboard. Excuse me, for nitpicking, but I am curious about the interpretation. In our boat the rule is: do not go to the rail for peeing. Pee instead into a small plastic bottle ("duck" we call it) by staying firmly inside the boat and then pour the liquid over the rail. So does this safety measure make it illegal? - Lauri Tarkkonen Yes! You read her post. She was perfectly clear on this aspect of dumping. What I enjoy doing when I get boarded for a 'safety check' and they check my head also, is say, "Excuse me sir, but I've got to take a ****." I remove my shorts and shirt, jump into the water and let her rip. There ain't a thing in the world they can do about it. CN CN |
Lauri Tarkkonen wrote:
Excuse me, for nitpicking, but I am curious about the interpretation. In our boat the rule is: do not go to the rail for peeing. Pee instead into a small plastic bottle ("duck" we call it) by staying firmly inside the boat and then pour the liquid over the rail. So does this safety measure make it illegal? Yep. It has to go directly from you into the water to be legal...putting in anything else first makes it illegal. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1 |
Capt. Neal® wrote:
Yes! You read her post. She was perfectly clear on this aspect of dumping. What I enjoy doing when I get boarded for a 'safety check' and they check my head also, is say, "Excuse me sir, but I've got to take a ****." I remove my shorts and shirt, jump into the water and let her rip. There ain't a thing in the world they can do about it. You have to assume that once the 'good captain' jumped in, the water would be considered so polluted...one more turd wouldn't make much difference. |
Don White wrote:
You have to assume that once the 'good captain' jumped in, the water would be considered so polluted...one more turd wouldn't make much difference. Don...please stop replying to this animal. Every reply to ANY of his posts only encourages him...when the real objective is to make him go away..which can only be accomplished by ignoring him. That said, I'll share a funny story about him with you... Years ago when I didn't have enough sense to stay off alt.sailing.whatever, Neal posted in a thread about a storm something to the effect that "there I was, stark naked, clinging to the mast while the winds and seas howled around me"...the first reply was, "and then someone called the marina manager." -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1 |
Peggie Hall wrote:
Don White wrote: You have to assume that once the 'good captain' jumped in, the water would be considered so polluted...one more turd wouldn't make much difference. Don...please stop replying to this animal. Every reply to ANY of his posts only encourages him...when the real objective is to make him go away..which can only be accomplished by ignoring him. That said, I'll share a funny story about him with you... Years ago when I didn't have enough sense to stay off alt.sailing.whatever, Neal posted in a thread about a storm something to the effect that "there I was, stark naked, clinging to the mast while the winds and seas howled around me"...the first reply was, "and then someone called the marina manager." Peggy You are so right about this sicko. He thrives on staring flames. If everyone would ignore him he would probably commit suicide within a month. Not a bad thing. JR |
Peggie Hall wrote:
Don...please stop replying to this animal. Every reply to ANY of his posts only encourages him...when the real objective is to make him go away..which can only be accomplished by ignoring him. snip.. Your wish is my command milady. |
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 02:57:07 GMT, Don White
wrote: Peggie Hall wrote: Don...please stop replying to this animal. Every reply to ANY of his posts only encourages him...when the real objective is to make him go away..which can only be accomplished by ignoring him. snip.. Your wish is my command milady. He's like JAX, only with more advanced spelling and syphilis. That story about defecating in the water to make a point to the authorities was charming...PLONK! R. |
"Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: You have to assume that once the 'good captain' jumped in, the water would be considered so polluted...one more turd wouldn't make much difference. Don...please stop replying to this animal. Every reply to ANY of his posts only encourages him...when the real objective is to make him go away..which can only be accomplished by ignoring him. One must wonder why Peggie Hall says one thing but does another? On the one hand she, herself, answers my post. On the other hand she tells people to stop replying and to ignore me so I'll go away. Kinda being a bit of a hypocrite there, aren't you Peggie? The ragtag hiding under her skirt jump to follow her advice, being the dunces they are, not even seeing the hypocrisy. That said, I'll share a funny story about him with you... Years ago when I didn't have enough sense to stay off alt.sailing. whatever, Neal posted in a thread about a storm something to the effect that "there I was, stark naked, clinging to the mast while the winds and seas howled around me"...the first reply was, "and then someone called the marina manager." Before I ran your boring bottom off asa, you mean? That was, indeed, a very funny and clever rejoinder. I laughed my ass off when I read it. It certainly went a long ways toward alleviating the boredom and loathing I felt after having read your posts - posts which are the same as the crap you are posting some five or six years later. Don't you ever get tired of the same old ****? Sorry, silly question. The answer is obvious. You live, eat and sleep waste. Fitting, very fitting because you are a waste . . . CN |
"Don White" wrote in message ... Peggie Hall wrote: Don...please stop replying to this animal. Every reply to ANY of his posts only encourages him...when the real objective is to make him go away..which can only be accomplished by ignoring him. snip.. Your wish is my command milady. Wuss! CN |
"rhys" whined... That story about defecating in the water to make a point to the authorities was charming...PLONK! WIMP! |
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"Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Yep. It has to go directly from you into the water to be legal...putting in anything else first makes it illegal. Putting in anything else first makes it illegal? Did you, perchance, mean 'pooping' in anything else first makes it illegal? CN |
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Ever seen an old square rigger with the holes over the side.... Direct
deposit at it's finest. Kind of like the european trains that dump directly onto the tracks (Or as Jeff foxworthy would say... "you're a Peein'" ) Capt. Neal® wrote: "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Yep. It has to go directly from you into the water to be legal...putting in anything else first makes it illegal. Putting in anything else first makes it illegal? Did you, perchance, mean 'pooping' in anything else first makes it illegal? CN |
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We have so few trains in the US that even after living here my whole
life, I have yet to get on a US train. I have ridden probably close to 50,000 miles on European trains. sorry for the myopic view of the "train crap" situation (or train pee....) Gogarty wrote: In article , says... Ever seen an old square rigger with the holes over the side.... Direct deposit at it's finest. Kind of like the european trains that dump directly onto the tracks (Or as Jeff foxworthy would say... "you're a Peein'" ) What's this European trains crap? Until the US railroads brought in the Metroliner and later, they also dumped straight to the tracks. I can still recall looking down the bowl and seeing the tis pass rapiudly beneath. No one reclalls "Do not use the toilet while the train is in the station?" For all I know, old cars, meaning sleepers etc., still dump to the tracks. |
"Gogarty" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:02:13 -0400, Gogarty said: Hey, I killfiled him. Probably a good idea. I used to occasionally enjoy his rants, but of late he seems to have come completely unglued. Going in my KF too. Fourteen killed so far today. Missed this one, PUTZ! |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... "rhys" whined... That story about defecating in the water to make a point to the authorities was charming...PLONK! WIMP! What an asshole! I've got 'im killfiled but I let 'im out from time to time because I'm infatuated with him. There's just something about assholes that fascinates me to no end get the pun, he he heee! |
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