Small Portable Water maker
 

Wondering if anyone has heard/seen/had any such thing.

We have a 22' sailboat we would like to use it in brackisk/salt water as
well as fresh. Ability to carry it on hikes/camping would be great as well.
Large capacity is not critical (1-2 gal per day would be plenty).

There are plenty of purifiers on the market (Katadyn, First Need, MSR,
etc.), but none can desalinate.

Any leads would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Don

"Don and Deb" wrote in message
...
Wondering if anyone has heard/seen/had any such thing.

We have a 22' sailboat we would like to use it in brackisk/salt water as
well as fresh. Ability to carry it on hikes/camping would be great as
well.
Large capacity is not critical (1-2 gal per day would be plenty).

There are plenty of purifiers on the market (Katadyn, First Need, MSR,
etc.), but none can desalinate.

Any leads would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Don



I'm pretty sure Pur makes one designed for liferaft use; that would work for
hiking and camping, too, I think. Memory has it as PUR6 (?).

L8R

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"Don and Deb" wrote:

Wondering if anyone has heard/seen/had any such thing.

We have a 22' sailboat we would like to use it in brackisk/salt water as
well as fresh. Ability to carry it on hikes/camping would be great as well.
Large capacity is not critical (1-2 gal per day would be plenty).

There are plenty of purifiers on the market (Katadyn, First Need, MSR,
etc.), but none can desalinate.

Any leads would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Don

How much are you willing to spend? The *Katadyn SURVIVOR series, (6 or
35) do what you want, but they are mucho expensive. the 35 weighs 7
pounds and produces 1.2 gal per hour and the 6 weighs 2.5 pounds and
produces an ounce in 2 minutes.

For info: http://www.katadyn.com/site/int/home...e/ou_products/

harlan

Have no affiliation with Pur or Katadyn.

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To respond, obviously drop the "nospan"?

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 02:03:00 GMT, "Don and Deb"
wrote:

Wondering if anyone has heard/seen/had any such thing.

We have a 22' sailboat we would like to use it in brackisk/salt water as
well as fresh. Ability to carry it on hikes/camping would be great as well.
Large capacity is not critical (1-2 gal per day would be plenty).

There are plenty of purifiers on the market (Katadyn, First Need, MSR,
etc.), but none can desalinate.

Any leads would be appreciated.

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http://www.sailnet.com/store/item.cfm?pid=19593

search watermaker on Ebay... there are always lots of the manual ones
for sale for a fraction of the original price. I bought one for my life
boat.

Ed

Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 02:03:00 GMT, "Don and Deb"
wrote:


Wondering if anyone has heard/seen/had any such thing.

We have a 22' sailboat we would like to use it in brackisk/salt water as
well as fresh. Ability to carry it on hikes/camping would be great as well.
Large capacity is not critical (1-2 gal per day would be plenty).

There are plenty of purifiers on the market (Katadyn, First Need, MSR,
etc.), but none can desalinate.

Any leads would be appreciated.


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http://www.sailnet.com/store/item.cfm?pid=19593

Don and Deb wrote:
Wondering if anyone has heard/seen/had any such thing.

We have a 22' sailboat we would like to use it in brackisk/salt water as
well as fresh. Ability to carry it on hikes/camping would be great as well.
Large capacity is not critical (1-2 gal per day would be plenty).

There are plenty of purifiers on the market (Katadyn, First Need, MSR,
etc.), but none can desalinate.

The PUR 06 is strictly for survival purposes in a liferaft. It's
short handle makes it very hard to pump. The PUR 35 manual one is
much easier according to people who have used one.

But for a 22' sailboat, an extra 20 gallons of water in 3-5 gallon
jugs won't be too much of an extra burden and a LOT cheaper! Of
course for hiking it won't be much good, but the 35 is pretty heavy to
carry too...

Evan Gatehouse

Seagold desalinaters is one such unit and there are at least 10 other
manufacturers. They are reversosmosis units however a manual unit woll only
yeild 1 -5 leters of water an hour.. They work at increadably high pressures
so take enormous amounts of energy. Good luck Don S
"Don and Deb" wrote in message
...
Wondering if anyone has heard/seen/had any such thing.

We have a 22' sailboat we would like to use it in brackisk/salt water as
well as fresh. Ability to carry it on hikes/camping would be great as
well. Large capacity is not critical (1-2 gal per day would be plenty).

There are plenty of purifiers on the market (Katadyn, First Need, MSR,
etc.), but none can desalinate.

Any leads would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Don

noddy wrote:

Seagold desalinaters is one such unit and there are at least 10 other
manufacturers. They are reversosmosis units however a manual unit woll only
yeild 1 -5 leters of water an hour.. They work at increadably high pressures
so take enormous amounts of energy. Good luck Don S
"Don and Deb" wrote in message
...

Wondering if anyone has heard/seen/had any such thing.

We have a 22' sailboat we would like to use it in brackisk/salt water as
well as fresh. Ability to carry it on hikes/camping would be great as
well. Large capacity is not critical (1-2 gal per day would be plenty).

There are plenty of purifiers on the market (Katadyn, First Need, MSR,
etc.), but none can desalinate.

Any leads would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Don



Check out Zenon.

Terry K

I hope that you are aware the RO units operate under the "ue it or lose it"
theory. If you do not operate it every 5 days, you need to backflush
(without chorine in the water) and use a storage agent.

I have a large on on my boat and do not even keep the mebranes in it.
Maybe on a long cruise where I cannot get water I will crank it back up.


"Terry Spragg" wrote in message
...
noddy wrote:

Seagold desalinaters is one such unit and there are at least 10 other
manufacturers. They are reversosmosis units however a manual unit woll
only yeild 1 -5 leters of water an hour.. They work at increadably high
pressures so take enormous amounts of energy. Good luck Don S
"Don and Deb" wrote in message
...

Wondering if anyone has heard/seen/had any such thing.

We have a 22' sailboat we would like to use it in brackisk/salt water as
well as fresh. Ability to carry it on hikes/camping would be great as
well. Large capacity is not critical (1-2 gal per day would be plenty).

There are plenty of purifiers on the market (Katadyn, First Need, MSR,
etc.), but none can desalinate.

Any leads would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Don



Check out Zenon.

Terry K

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:05:07 GMT, "Phil Lewis"
wrote:

I hope that you are aware the RO units operate under the "ue it or lose it"
theory. If you do not operate it every 5 days, you need to backflush
(without chorine in the water) and use a storage agent.

I have a large on on my boat and do not even keep the mebranes in it.
Maybe on a long cruise where I cannot get water I will crank it back up.

So is the trick to keep the membranes out and stored until such time
as you run out of decent tanked water?

R.

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:05:07 GMT, "Phil Lewis"
wrote:

I hope that you are aware the RO units operate under the "ue it or lose it"
theory. If you do not operate it every 5 days, you need to backflush
(without chorine in the water) and use a storage agent.

I have a large on on my boat and do not even keep the mebranes in it.
Maybe on a long cruise where I cannot get water I will crank it back up.


On Sun, 01 May 2005 14:19:18 -0400, rhys wrote:
So is the trick to keep the membranes out and stored until such time
as you run out of decent tanked water?

R.

No. I spent 2 1/2 years cruising with a watermaker. The trick is to
use it every day, then run some product water, about 1/2 a gallon,
through to rinse out the sal****er. Pickle if it won't be used for
more than about 3 days in warm weather, 5 in cold. Pickling is a snap
- just put a capful in 2 qts. of water and run it through. Then it's
good for a year.

Add a "silty water kit" or make your own. Just another inline filter
with a 5-micron element. I've made water pretty much everywhere with
this.

On last note. Don't get one larger than you need. Then you're wasting
Amp-hours and water to run it. It takes X Amp-hours per gallon of
water, whether you're making 1-1/2 gallons per hour (mine) or 500
gallons per hour.

Rick
http://www.morelr.com/specter

On Mon, 02 May 2005 18:29:57 -0500, Rick Morel
wrote:


No. I spent 2 1/2 years cruising with a watermaker. The trick is to
use it every day, then run some product water, about 1/2 a gallon,
through to rinse out the sal****er. Pickle if it won't be used for
more than about 3 days in warm weather, 5 in cold. Pickling is a snap
- just put a capful in 2 qts. of water and run it through. Then it's
good for a year.

Add a "silty water kit" or make your own. Just another inline filter
with a 5-micron element. I've made water pretty much everywhere with
this.

On last note. Don't get one larger than you need. Then you're wasting
Amp-hours and water to run it. It takes X Amp-hours per gallon of
water, whether you're making 1-1/2 gallons per hour (mine) or 500
gallons per hour.

Rick
http://www.morelr.com/specter

Thanks for the primer. I didn't know you needed 20% of the production
to effectively flush the salt water afterwards.

R.

On Wed, 04 May 2005 02:01:37 -0400, rhys wrote:

Thanks for the primer. I didn't know you needed 20% of the production
to effectively flush the salt water afterwards.

R.

Well, 20 minutes worth of running for the Pur 40E, 1-1/2 Gal per hour,
or 1.5 Amp hours. I don't find that bad for what you get. :-)

Rick

On Wed, 04 May 2005 07:45:20 -0500, Rick Morel
wrote:


Well, 20 minutes worth of running for the Pur 40E, 1-1/2 Gal per hour,
or 1.5 Amp hours. I don't find that bad for what you get. :-)

Neither do I, and I don't begrudge the "maintainence cycle". I was
simply unaware of the requirement.

Like having an electric windlass, it simply becomes part of the power
requirement, particularly if one anticipates making one's own power
and running an electric motor.