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Roger Long March 17th 05 11:12 AM

Now, why didn't I think of that?

It's great when someone who actually knows what they are talking about
shows up.

I just went through Calder's section on head plumbing and it sounds
like a lot of the greater odor of salt water flush over fresh is not
the salt but all the plant and animal stuff that comes in. A strainer
in the intake line sounds important.

--

Roger Long



"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
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There's a much easier way. Tee the head sink drain into the head
intake line. To flush the sea water out of the head intake line--the
whole syststm, in fact--close the head intake seacock...fill the
sink with clean fresh water...flush the toilet. Because the seacock
is closed, the toilet will pull the water out of the sink. In fact,
if you have the fresh water to spare, you could just keep the intake
seacock closed and use this method to flush the toilet all the time.

--
Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems
and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1




Rosalie B. March 17th 05 12:37 PM

"Roger Long" wrote:

Now, why didn't I think of that?

It's great when someone who actually knows what they are talking about
shows up.

I just went through Calder's section on head plumbing and it sounds
like a lot of the greater odor of salt water flush over fresh is not
the salt but all the plant and animal stuff that comes in. A strainer
in the intake line sounds important.


I don't think you can really strain out the stuff - it's plankton
sized.

We used freshwater flush before we got the LectraSan(1) (or when the
output has to go to the holding tank), and there's an even easier way
if it works for you. Our shower is in the head, and we just take the
shower head down and flush with water from the shower. No need to do
anything to the thru-hulls, or anything else.

(1) LectraSan of course needs the salt from the salt water.

grandma Rosalie

Peggie Hall March 17th 05 03:12 PM



Roger Long wrote:
I just went through Calder's section on head plumbing and it sounds
like a lot of the greater odor of salt water flush over fresh is not
the salt but all the plant and animal stuff that comes in. A
strainer in the intake line sounds important.


A strainer will keep weeds, jellyfish, and other larger sea life from
being sucked into the head intake line and becoming trapped there or in
the channel in the rim of the bowl...but it won't prevent sea water
intake odor. Sea water--especially coastal sea water--is alive with
microscropic animal and vegetable life that die, decay and stink when it
sits and stagnates in the intake line, pump and rim of the bowl.
Flushing all the sea water out, especially at the end of a cruise,
before the boat will sit for several days or longer is the only way to
eliminate it. Just pouring fresh water into the bowl cleans out the
head DISCHARGE line, but it won't rinse out the intake and channel in
the rim of the bowl, because nothing that goes into the bowl is
recirculated through the intake...if it did, waste in the bowl would
recirculate too.

So the only way to get rid of it is by using some means of introducing
clean fresh water into the head intake line--but NOT by connecting
directly to the onboard fresh water system! There's no way to connect
any raw water toilet to the fresh water system without risk of polluting
the potable water supply...and every toilet mfr warns against doing so
in their installation instructions. Only toilets designed by the mfr to
use pressurized flush water should ever be connected to the fresh water
plumbing.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1


Roger Long March 17th 05 03:46 PM

So I was on the right track with my tank idea for running fresh water
through for the last flush of the day. Using the sink makes a lot
more sense. I'm going to put a "Y" in the sink drain line so I can
fill the sink and then use that water to flush. The sink will make
the required air gap.

BTW I just ordered you book.

--

Roger Long



"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...


Roger Long wrote:
I just went through Calder's section on head plumbing and it
sounds
like a lot of the greater odor of salt water flush over fresh is
not
the salt but all the plant and animal stuff that comes in. A
strainer in the intake line sounds important.


A strainer will keep weeds, jellyfish, and other larger sea life
from being sucked into the head intake line and becoming trapped
there or in the channel in the rim of the bowl...but it won't
prevent sea water intake odor. Sea water--especially coastal sea
water--is alive with microscropic animal and vegetable life that
die, decay and stink when it sits and stagnates in the intake line,
pump and rim of the bowl. Flushing all the sea water out, especially
at the end of a cruise, before the boat will sit for several days or
longer is the only way to eliminate it. Just pouring fresh water
into the bowl cleans out the head DISCHARGE line, but it won't rinse
out the intake and channel in the rim of the bowl, because nothing
that goes into the bowl is recirculated through the intake...if it
did, waste in the bowl would recirculate too.

So the only way to get rid of it is by using some means of
introducing clean fresh water into the head intake line--but NOT by
connecting directly to the onboard fresh water system! There's no
way to connect any raw water toilet to the fresh water system
without risk of polluting the potable water supply...and every
toilet mfr warns against doing so in their installation
instructions. Only toilets designed by the mfr to use pressurized
flush water should ever be connected to the fresh water plumbing.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems
and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1





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