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engsol March 7th 05 05:19 AM

Marine battery charger...which one?
 
I'm re-doing the 30 year old electrics on my boat.
I've bought the AC and DC power panels, etc.
Now is the time to think about the battery charger.
I like the the specs of the Xantrex Truecharge 20 Plus, but...
the specs suggest a battery size of 2 ea 4Ds or a 8D.
My plan is to toss in a couple (100 AH start, 100 AH house)
of flooded cell Group 31s for now, and later go to AGM
200 AH batteries when the boat kitty is well again.
Will this scheme work ya think? Will the XTC-20 work?
Norm B

Wayne.B March 7th 05 08:49 AM

On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 21:19:33 -0800, engsol
wrote:

I'm re-doing the 30 year old electrics on my boat.
I've bought the AC and DC power panels, etc.
Now is the time to think about the battery charger.
I like the the specs of the Xantrex Truecharge 20 Plus, but...
the specs suggest a battery size of 2 ea 4Ds or a 8D.
My plan is to toss in a couple (100 AH start, 100 AH house)
of flooded cell Group 31s for now, and later go to AGM
200 AH batteries when the boat kitty is well again.
Will this scheme work ya think? Will the XTC-20 work?
Norm B


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Why not get an inverter charger? Lots of amperage available,
adjustments for different battery types/capacities, and you get the
inverter function as a bonus.


DSK March 7th 05 11:42 AM

engsol wrote:
I'm re-doing the 30 year old electrics on my boat.


Good idea.

I've bought the AC and DC power panels, etc.
Now is the time to think about the battery charger.
I like the the specs of the Xantrex Truecharge 20 Plus, but...
the specs suggest a battery size of 2 ea 4Ds or a 8D.


Why? We have a 40, and a battery bank of 4 Grp 31s. It can fully charge
them during an overnight dockage/shore power avail.

My plan is to toss in a couple (100 AH start, 100 AH house)
of flooded cell Group 31s for now, and later go to AGM
200 AH batteries when the boat kitty is well again.
Will this scheme work ya think? Will the XTC-20 work?



Sure.

But why go to AGMs, unless you just like spending money? You can buy Grp
31s at a farm or truck supply for about 1/3 what a marine store sells
the same battery for, and they'll last many years if treated properly.
Unless you want to mount them on their side, or plan to have your boat
roll over, there's no reason to spend the extra money on AGMs IMHO. Some
people like them so as to brag about their batteries, though.

Wayne.B wrote:
Why not get an inverter charger?


I can tell you why we didn't. The huge charging capacity is mostly
wasted and the charging leg needs to be connected to an
isolator/combiner because the add-on "echo charger" is useless, the
units are bulky & more expensive than either component by itself, and if
it craps out (which they do far more often than the sellers like to
admit) you're out of both. Plus, if shore power goes down while you're
watching TV (or anything else using 120VAC) then you flatten your
batteries before you realize it.

OTOH if you're putting in one of those fancy computerized monitoring
systems, then it saves a heck of a lot of time on installing.

Fair Skies
Doug King


JR Gilbreath March 7th 05 01:20 PM

Another suggestion if you want to go cheap. You can find a place that
sells golf cart batteries and string together 6 Volts. I bought 4
Trojan T-105s for $160.00 and they provide 440 amp hours.
JR


engsol wrote:

I'm re-doing the 30 year old electrics on my boat.
I've bought the AC and DC power panels, etc.
Now is the time to think about the battery charger.
I like the the specs of the Xantrex Truecharge 20 Plus, but...
the specs suggest a battery size of 2 ea 4Ds or a 8D.
My plan is to toss in a couple (100 AH start, 100 AH house)
of flooded cell Group 31s for now, and later go to AGM
200 AH batteries when the boat kitty is well again.
Will this scheme work ya think? Will the XTC-20 work?
Norm B


thuss March 8th 05 05:29 AM

I have a Truecharge 20 hooked up to 4 Trojan T-105's. I've had the
charger and batteries for 2 years now and have been very happy with it.
The only reason to go with the 40 amp in my opinion is if you need over
20Aamps to run your fridge or you want to be able to do a quicker
charge at the dock. For me, if we're at a dock, we'll be there at least
overnight in which case the Truecharge 20 gets the job done.

-Todd

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JR Gilbreath wrote:
Another suggestion if you want to go cheap. You can find a place

that
sells golf cart batteries and string together 6 Volts. I bought 4
Trojan T-105s for $160.00 and they provide 440 amp hours.
JR


engsol wrote:

I'm re-doing the 30 year old electrics on my boat.
I've bought the AC and DC power panels, etc.
Now is the time to think about the battery charger.
I like the the specs of the Xantrex Truecharge 20 Plus, but...
the specs suggest a battery size of 2 ea 4Ds or a 8D.
My plan is to toss in a couple (100 AH start, 100 AH house)
of flooded cell Group 31s for now, and later go to AGM
200 AH batteries when the boat kitty is well again.
Will this scheme work ya think? Will the XTC-20 work?
Norm B



Peter Bennett March 11th 05 02:50 AM

On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 21:19:33 -0800, engsol
wrote:

I'm re-doing the 30 year old electrics on my boat.
I've bought the AC and DC power panels, etc.
Now is the time to think about the battery charger.
I like the the specs of the Xantrex Truecharge 20 Plus, but...
the specs suggest a battery size of 2 ea 4Ds or a 8D.
My plan is to toss in a couple (100 AH start, 100 AH house)
of flooded cell Group 31s for now, and later go to AGM
200 AH batteries when the boat kitty is well again.
Will this scheme work ya think? Will the XTC-20 work?
Norm B


It is generally recommended that flooded batteries can be charged at
up to 20% of their amper-hour rating - so for your 2 x 100 AH battery
system, the TrueCharge 20 is fine, and the TC40 might be OK.

The TrueCharge 20+ has a built-in battery isolator, so it can be
connected to up to three independent battery banks. I recall (but
can't find in the manual at present) that it only senses battery
voltage on output 1, so the house battery should be connected to that
terminal (but study the manual to be sure...)

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