AC in the Bahamas
 

Any thoughts on the need for Air Conditioning on a Sailing Vessel while in
the Bahamas.

Currently have them on board, but no Gen Set. Hate to put in a Gen Set if
Air Conditioning is not needed.

Berry Myers
SV Nonpareil

Any thoughts on the need for Air Conditioning on a Sailing Vessel while in
the Bahamas.

Currently have them on board, but no Gen Set. Hate to put in a Gen Set if
Air Conditioning is not needed.

Depends on when you intend to be there.
But I vote a strong yes. At least in the height of the summer.

Capt. Bill

From what I understand, FL folks used to go to the Bahamas
during the summer to avoid the heat. Personally, I see using an AC
via a genset in an anchorage as bad manners. Around here I rarely
see sailboats even in the hottest part of the summer be rude enough
to run a genset all night in an anchorage. Sadly enough, it does appear
to be a frequent occurrance on the powerboats.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Berry" wrote in message
.. .
Any thoughts on the need for Air Conditioning on a Sailing Vessel while in
the Bahamas.

Currently have them on board, but no Gen Set. Hate to put in a Gen Set if
Air Conditioning is not needed.

Berry Myers
SV Nonpareil

Doug Dotson wrote:
From what I understand, FL folks used to go to the Bahamas
during the summer to avoid the heat. Personally, I see using an AC
via a genset in an anchorage as bad manners. Around here I rarely
see sailboats even in the hottest part of the summer be rude enough
to run a genset all night in an anchorage. Sadly enough, it does appear
to be a frequent occurrance on the powerboats.

And a lot of them have no clue, since they're buttoned up inside and
can't hear it.

However, having a genset & AC doesn't mean you have to run it all night.
Usually during hot weather, we'll run it for the most intense heat of
the day. Keeps the boat drier inside too.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Subject: AC in the Bahamas
From: "Doug Dotson"

From what I understand, FL folks used to go to the Bahamas
during the summer to avoid the heat.

Maybe before the advent private A/C.

Personally, I see using an AC
via a genset in an anchorage as bad manners.

If the gensets quite what's the big deal?

Around here I rarely
see sailboats even in the hottest part of the summer be rude enough
to run a genset all night in an anchorage. Sadly enough, it does appear
to be a frequent occurrance on the powerboats.

Yes, and sadly slapping halyards at night seems to be a frequent occurrence on
sailboats.
So I guess turn abouts fair play. :-)

Capt. Bill

"LaBomba182" wrote in message
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Subject: AC in the Bahamas
From: "Doug Dotson"

From what I understand, FL folks used to go to the Bahamas
during the summer to avoid the heat.

Maybe before the advent private A/C.

True enough.

Personally, I see using an AC
via a genset in an anchorage as bad manners.

If the gensets quite what's the big deal?

Quite what?

Around here I rarely
see sailboats even in the hottest part of the summer be rude enough
to run a genset all night in an anchorage. Sadly enough, it does appear
to be a frequent occurrance on the powerboats.

Yes, and sadly slapping halyards at night seems to be a frequent
occurrence on
sailboats.
So I guess turn abouts fair play. :-)

I guess they run AC to drown out the halyard slap :) Most boats at anchor
secure their halyards because they are even more annoying aboard the
offending
boat. Hard to sleep with a halyard banging around. Most slapping halyards
can be found on unattended boats in some marinas.

Capt. Bill

Doug
s/v Callista

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:01:08 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

If the gensets quite what's the big deal?

Quite what?

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Quite quiet of course. My gensets are heavily muffled and can barely
be heard on the flybridge 15 feet above the water. The exhaust does
make the traditional chuff chuff sound of water exiting but unless you
were anchored right next to me in an extremely quiet spot, you'd never
hear it. The A/C has it's own water cooling splash noise of course.

My personal philosophy is that if you need air conditioning at night,
you're spending the summer too far south.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:01:08 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

If the gensets quite what's the big deal?

Quite what?

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Quite quiet of course. My gensets are heavily muffled and can barely
be heard on the flybridge 15 feet above the water. The exhaust does
make the traditional chuff chuff sound of water exiting but unless you
were anchored right next to me in an extremely quiet spot, you'd never
hear it. The A/C has it's own water cooling splash noise of course.

Mine isn't all that loud either from aboard my own boat. That "chuff chuff"
and "splash" sound is quite annoying when one is trying to sleep.

My personal philosophy is that if you need air conditioning at night,
you're spending the summer too far south.

Or you are a wimp. A good fan generally does the trick.

Doug
s/v Callista

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:22:45 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

My personal philosophy is that if you need air conditioning at night,
you're spending the summer too far south.

Or you are a wimp. A good fan generally does the trick.

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I'm in south Florida. When it's 95 degrees and 95% humidity, being a
wimp has nothing to do with it. This area is basically uninhabitable
in the summer without air conditioning.

Sure is nice this time of year however.

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:56:51 -0500, "Berry"
wrote:

Any thoughts on the need for Air Conditioning on a Sailing Vessel while in
the Bahamas.

Use a chute scoop.

Been there in July. Had to take it down because we got cold.

Jack

__________________________________________________
Jack Dale
Swiftsure Sailing Academy
Director/ISPA and CYA Instructor
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
__________________________________________________

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:22:45 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

My personal philosophy is that if you need air conditioning at night,
you're spending the summer too far south.

Or you are a wimp. A good fan generally does the trick.

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I'm in south Florida. When it's 95 degrees and 95% humidity, being a
wimp has nothing to do with it. This area is basically uninhabitable
in the summer without air conditioning.

Sure is nice this time of year however.

About the same WX as the Chesapeake in the summer.

Doug

"Jack Dale" wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:56:51 -0500, "Berry"
wrote:

Any thoughts on the need for Air Conditioning on a Sailing Vessel while in
the Bahamas.

Use a chute scoop.

Been there in July. Had to take it down because we got cold.

Jack

We have 4 Breeze Boosters that work great. The V-berth has 2
fans as well.

Doug

__________________________________________________
Jack Dale
Swiftsure Sailing Academy
Director/ISPA and CYA Instructor
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
__________________________________________________

Berry wrote:
Any thoughts on the need for Air Conditioning on a Sailing Vessel while in
the Bahamas.

Currently have them on board, but no Gen Set. Hate to put in a Gen Set if
Air Conditioning is not needed.

Berry Myers
SV Nonpareil



I can't recall more than a handful of nights that were too hot when at
anchor. My current boat has two hatches above our bunk and that funnels
more than enough air to be be comfortable. We have a Breeze Booster,
but only need to use it at the dock. The only problem is when it rains!

Curiously, the same company that built my sailboat (PDQ), also builds a
power cat that is usually delivered with a Genset and A/C. The
staterooms have limited ventilation (compared to the sailboat), but they
told me they have installed large deck hatches on a few - presumably
purchased by former sailors.

Subject: AC in the Bahamas
From: "Doug Dotson"

Mine isn't all that loud either from aboard my own boat. That "chuff chuff"
and "splash" sound is quite annoying when one is trying to sleep.

My personal philosophy is that if you need air conditioning at night,
you're spending the summer too far south.

Or you are a wimp. A good fan generally does the trick.

OK, so you're a wimp if you can't sleep on a hot night without A/C.
Got it.

Now what do you call someone who can't sleep on a boat with the sound of water
splashing in the distance?

Capt. Bill

Berry wrote:
Any thoughts on the need for Air Conditioning on a Sailing Vessel while in
the Bahamas.

Currently have them on board, but no Gen Set. Hate to put in a Gen Set if
Air Conditioning is not needed.

Berry Myers
SV Nonpareil


Hello Berry,

Spent June and July in the Abacos, all at anchor except for
maybe three nights at marinas.

No AC and never needed it. During the day, the sun can be
very troublesome in the cockpit, which is where you want to
be anyway. What is vastly more important than AC, in my
opinion, is an awning. Expect to move it as the boat changes
position and the sun cavorts across a beautiful sky.

Good luck.

Chuck

"LaBomba182" wrote in message
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Subject: AC in the Bahamas
From: "Doug Dotson"

Mine isn't all that loud either from aboard my own boat. That "chuff
chuff"
and "splash" sound is quite annoying when one is trying to sleep.

The above is what I said.

My personal philosophy is that if you need air conditioning at night,
you're spending the summer too far south.

Or you are a wimp. A good fan generally does the trick.

The above here are not my words. Are your trying to fabricate a
conflict?

OK, so you're a wimp if you can't sleep on a hot night without A/C.
Got it.

Perhaps. But certainly a poor generalization. I have no problem with
AC for sleeping. It's running a loud and annoying genset in a quiet
anchorage all night that is the issue.

Now what do you call someone who can't sleep on a boat with the sound of
water
splashing in the distance?

Not the splashing of water that is the annoying part. It's the exhaust noise
from the genset. And also the exhaust fumes wafting through the cabin.

Capt. Bill

Doug

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:10:11 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

Not the splashing of water that is the annoying part. It's the exhaust noise
from the genset. And also the exhaust fumes wafting through the cabin.

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Now who's the wimp?

Real men season their ham and eggs with exhaust fumes for breakfast.

That's the smell of power my friend, and it's also the cure for
borderline seasickness.

One whiff and you're not borderline anymore.

Only if it's lovely diesel fumes! Those gasoline fumes are nasty!

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:10:11 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

Not the splashing of water that is the annoying part. It's the exhaust
noise
from the genset. And also the exhaust fumes wafting through the cabin.

=========================================

Now who's the wimp?

Real men season their ham and eggs with exhaust fumes for breakfast.

That's the smell of power my friend, and it's also the cure for
borderline seasickness.

One whiff and you're not borderline anymore.

Many large powerboats (Most over 40') cannot be without 110/220 for any
period of time. My 48 won't last more than a few hours without AC
power. I only have 110/220 AC for freezer, fridge, etc, etc. I will
not go into an anchorage if the sailboters are there first BUT... if I
arrive first and they come later on... anchorer beware... I have 2
gensets... my night set is very small and over muffled but no genset is
100% quiet.

BTW... in the summer, in the islands... you will want AC. the scoops
are OK but most evenings have little breeze and if you anchor to close
to the islands, the bugs will get you as well.

Winter... no problem... bring extra blankets in lieu of a generator...
Ed




Doug Dotson wrote:

Only if it's lovely diesel fumes! Those gasoline fumes are nasty!

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:10:11 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:


Not the splashing of water that is the annoying part. It's the exhaust
noise

from the genset. And also the exhaust fumes wafting through the cabin.

=========================================

Now who's the wimp?

Real men season their ham and eggs with exhaust fumes for breakfast.

That's the smell of power my friend, and it's also the cure for
borderline seasickness.

One whiff and you're not borderline anymore.

Subject: AC in the Bahamas
From: "Doug Dotson"

"LaBomba182" wrote in message
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Subject: AC in the Bahamas
From: "Doug Dotson"

Mine isn't all that loud either from aboard my own boat. That "chuff
chuff"
and "splash" sound is quite annoying when one is trying to sleep.

The above is what I said.

My personal philosophy is that if you need air conditioning at night,
you're spending the summer too far south.

Or you are a wimp. A good fan generally does the trick.

The above here are not my words. Are your trying to fabricate a
conflict?

Hardly. I guess I just didn't think I needed to add the :-) everytime.


OK, so you're a wimp if you can't sleep on a hot night without A/C.
Got it.

Perhaps. But certainly a poor generalization. I have no problem with
AC for sleeping. It's running a loud and annoying genset in a quiet
anchorage all night that is the issue.

Now what do you call someone who can't sleep on a boat with the sound of
water
splashing in the distance?

Not the splashing of water that is the annoying part. It's the exhaust noise
from the genset. And also the exhaust fumes wafting through the cabin.

If you can smell it than it's to close. Time to move. Depending on who was
anchored down first or if you can get the other party to move.

Capt. Bill