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PETER KEATING November 25th 04 11:31 PM

Osmosis blisters ?
 
I wonder if anyone can give me some advice. I have been cleaning off the
bottom of my 14Yr old Nimbus motor cruiser and I have noticed some pinhead
size blisters on the underside. My questions are these (1) will they go away
over the winter by drying out. (2) will they dry out if I use a hot air gun
on them, if so I can then Epoxy the hull.
Your assistance will be very much appreciated.
Thanks. Peter



Rich Hampel November 26th 04 02:01 AM

A small population of Pinhead sized blisters are usually NEVER a
problem.
Osmotic blistering that occurs in the gelcoat layer or the
non-structural matting layer underneath the gelcoat are simply
"cosmetic". Only when the osmotic blistering begins to penetrate into
the structural layers of the laminate (roving or cloth) would one then
prudently consider a total restoration 'bottom-job'.

They will NEVER go away as what you are looking at is the cosmetic
surface resin has begun (just a teeny bit) to degrade - analagous to
rust in steel and iron.

Your alternatives a
1. open the blisters by grinding, etc. and simply fill and fair the
crater with thickened epoxy.
2. Let the boat dry out a bit and have a moisture analysis performed.
If the analysis moiisture indicates a high % of water absorbed into the
fiberglass, then consider to remove the matting layer and gelcoat (by
'peeling", and recoat with multicoats of epoxy barrier coats, etc. If
high moisture is found then consider to have a sample bored from the
hull and send it to an analysis laboratory to analyse for hydrolysis
and other forms of degradation - dont simply commit to the backbreaking
and super expensive job of rebuilding the bottom.

Simple answer: if you only have pinhead blisters, simply open them,
wash them out, fair in epoxy, etc.

If you applied a barrier coat 14 years ago, the recommended 'thickness'
of such barrier coats in recent years has essentially doubled. If you
didnt apply barrier coat and only have a few blisters in the
gelcoat.... wait until next season and just 'fill and fair' those that
you see.



In article , PETER KEATING
wrote:

I wonder if anyone can give me some advice. I have been cleaning off the
bottom of my 14Yr old Nimbus motor cruiser and I have noticed some pinhead
size blisters on the underside. My questions are these (1) will they go away
over the winter by drying out. (2) will they dry out if I use a hot air gun
on them, if so I can then Epoxy the hull.
Your assistance will be very much appreciated.
Thanks. Peter



PETER KEATING November 26th 04 09:12 AM

Thanks Richard, I'll have a look at it this weekend. Regards. Peter
"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...
A small population of Pinhead sized blisters are usually NEVER a
problem.
Osmotic blistering that occurs in the gelcoat layer or the
non-structural matting layer underneath the gelcoat are simply
"cosmetic". Only when the osmotic blistering begins to penetrate into
the structural layers of the laminate (roving or cloth) would one then
prudently consider a total restoration 'bottom-job'.

They will NEVER go away as what you are looking at is the cosmetic
surface resin has begun (just a teeny bit) to degrade - analagous to
rust in steel and iron.

Your alternatives a
1. open the blisters by grinding, etc. and simply fill and fair the
crater with thickened epoxy.
2. Let the boat dry out a bit and have a moisture analysis performed.
If the analysis moiisture indicates a high % of water absorbed into the
fiberglass, then consider to remove the matting layer and gelcoat (by
'peeling", and recoat with multicoats of epoxy barrier coats, etc. If
high moisture is found then consider to have a sample bored from the
hull and send it to an analysis laboratory to analyse for hydrolysis
and other forms of degradation - dont simply commit to the backbreaking
and super expensive job of rebuilding the bottom.

Simple answer: if you only have pinhead blisters, simply open them,
wash them out, fair in epoxy, etc.

If you applied a barrier coat 14 years ago, the recommended 'thickness'
of such barrier coats in recent years has essentially doubled. If you
didnt apply barrier coat and only have a few blisters in the
gelcoat.... wait until next season and just 'fill and fair' those that
you see.



In article , PETER KEATING
wrote:

I wonder if anyone can give me some advice. I have been cleaning off the
bottom of my 14Yr old Nimbus motor cruiser and I have noticed some

pinhead
size blisters on the underside. My questions are these (1) will they go

away
over the winter by drying out. (2) will they dry out if I use a hot air

gun
on them, if so I can then Epoxy the hull.
Your assistance will be very much appreciated.
Thanks. Peter





Paul Oman November 27th 04 01:42 AM

PETER KEATING wrote:

Thanks Richard, I'll have a look at it this weekend. Regards. Peter
"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...
A small population of Pinhead sized blisters are usually NEVER a
problem.
Osmotic blistering that occurs in the gelcoat layer or the
non-structural matting layer underneath the gelcoat are simply
"cosmetic". Only when the osmotic blistering begins to penetrate into
the structural layers of the laminate (roving or cloth) would one then
prudently consider a total restoration 'bottom-job'.

They will NEVER go away as what you are looking at is the cosmetic
surface resin has begun (just a teeny bit) to degrade - analagous to
rust in steel and iron.

Your alternatives a
1. open the blisters by grinding, etc. and simply fill and fair the
crater with thickened epoxy.
2. Let the boat dry out a bit and have a moisture analysis performed.
If the analysis moiisture indicates a high % of water absorbed into the
fiberglass, then consider to remove the matting layer and gelcoat (by
'peeling", and recoat with multicoats of epoxy barrier coats, etc. If
high moisture is found then consider to have a sample bored from the
hull and send it to an analysis laboratory to analyse for hydrolysis
and other forms of degradation - dont simply commit to the backbreaking
and super expensive job of rebuilding the bottom.

Simple answer: if you only have pinhead blisters, simply open them,
wash them out, fair in epoxy, etc.

If you applied a barrier coat 14 years ago, the recommended 'thickness'
of such barrier coats in recent years has essentially doubled. If you
didnt apply barrier coat and only have a few blisters in the
gelcoat.... wait until next season and just 'fill and fair' those that
you see.

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I would agree. They will not sink your boat. Pop and fill (if you don't get to
them this spring, another season will not make things much worse). You might
roll on a coat of epoxy paint prior to your bottom paint - sounds like this will
need doing within the next few years or sooner.

paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers


Clachair November 30th 04 02:25 AM

Hi:

Thought you might be interested in this website I found.
http://www.yachtsurvey.com/blisters.htm
Seems like you don't have too much to worry about.

Regards,

John W.

PETER KEATING November 30th 04 08:35 PM

Thanks for the site Clachair i'll have a look. Peter
"Clachair" wrote in message
om...
Hi:

Thought you might be interested in this website I found.
http://www.yachtsurvey.com/blisters.htm
Seems like you don't have too much to worry about.

Regards,

John W.




Florida Keyz December 1st 04 05:05 AM

Just repaired my blisterd bottom, started with pressure cleaning., then sand
blasting the blisters (botom), followed by grinding our, (not that difficult)
filling with fast expoxy, then a water sealer on the hull, and bottom paint.
REally not that tough. Blister don't scare me anymore.

Sterling


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