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[email protected] November 20th 04 01:23 AM

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:45:06 -0500, DSK wrote:

wrote:
And exactly where, prey tell, is a place in the ocean that is not a
fish bathroom?


Does the difference between humans and fishes pass right through your
mental digestive tract without leaving any thought residue?

DSK


And what, prey tell, oh expert in the feces, is the difference between
human feces and fish feces? Since both are the final result of a
basically identical process, the breaking down of organic compounds,
seems to be little if any difference. When you consider marine
mammals I would think the differences would be even less.


Weebles Wobble
(but they don't fall down)

Keith November 20th 04 06:47 AM

Yep, that's correct.

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Keith
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Bad spellers of the world UNTIE!
"rhys" wrote in message
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Hmm...so if I put "bio-diesel" in my boat engine obtained by back-yard
distillation of Chinese deep-fryer cast-offs, will I be breaking the
law if a drop of wok leavings scented lightly with pork flies out the
stern?




DSK November 24th 04 01:20 AM

wrote:
And what, prey tell, oh expert in the feces, is the difference between
human feces and fish feces? Since both are the final result of a
basically identical process, the breaking down of organic compounds,
seems to be little if any difference. When you consider marine
mammals I would think the differences would be even less.


The difference is
1- fish excrement is going to be there anyway. Yours is an additional
load on the local ecosystem.

2- the intestinal flora of species are mostly unique.

3- the disease potential... for humans... of human waste is much higher.
For example, fish & whales don't carry cholera...

Is that light bulb starting to get a dim glow yet? I doubt it, most
people will strenuously resist letting facts displace their prejudices.

DSK


Eric Currier November 24th 04 06:10 AM

Weebles, you have a valid argument...as long as you can convince the fish to
get out of the water and use a prota-potty to compensate for what you are
adding.


"DSK" wrote in message
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wrote:
And what, prey tell, oh expert in the feces, is the difference between
human feces and fish feces? Since both are the final result of a
basically identical process, the breaking down of organic compounds,
seems to be little if any difference. When you consider marine
mammals I would think the differences would be even less.


The difference is
1- fish excrement is going to be there anyway. Yours is an additional
load on the local ecosystem.

2- the intestinal flora of species are mostly unique.

3- the disease potential... for humans... of human waste is much higher.
For example, fish & whales don't carry cholera...

Is that light bulb starting to get a dim glow yet? I doubt it, most
people will strenuously resist letting facts displace their prejudices.

DSK






DSK November 24th 04 11:29 AM

Eric Currier wrote:
Weebles, you have a valid argument...as long as you can convince the fish to
get out of the water and use a prota-potty to compensate for what you are
adding.


I think that for most people of Weeble's ilk, the issue is not one of
biology but of Freudian psychology. Mean ol' mommy won't let them
poo-poo wherever they want, so they kick up a fuss.

DSK


[email protected] November 24th 04 02:04 PM

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 06:29:47 -0500, DSK wrotf:

Eric Currier wrote:
Weebles, you have a valid argument...as long as you can convince the fish to
get out of the water and use a prota-potty to compensate for what you are
adding.


I think that for most people of Weeble's ilk, the issue is not one of
biology but of Freudian psychology. Mean ol' mommy won't let them
poo-poo wherever they want, so they kick up a fuss.

DSK

Nope, just not overburdened with a chicken little, the sky is falling
mentality. Everything in feces - including human feces - is readily
biodegradable and serves as nutrients to many things in the water.


Weebles Wobble
(but they don't fall down)

DSK November 24th 04 02:17 PM

I think that for most people of Weeble's ilk, the issue is not one of
biology but of Freudian psychology. Mean ol' mommy won't let them
poo-poo wherever they want, so they kick up a fuss.


wrote:
Nope, just not overburdened with a chicken little, the sky is falling
mentality. Everything in feces - including human feces - is readily
biodegradable and serves as nutrients to many things in the water.


So the facts have pretty much passed you by again?

Consider what human feces is nutrient *for* (other than yourself) and
maybe you'll be able to get a clue.

DSK


[email protected] November 24th 04 03:36 PM

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:17:22 -0500, DSK wrotf:

So the facts have pretty much passed you by again?


Nope, just look at them dispassionately rather than with the typical
environmentalist hysteria.

Consider what human feces is nutrient *for* (other than yourself) and
maybe you'll be able to get a clue.


They are nutrients for many things including fish and bacteria, just
like the feces of all other organisms. There is nothing specifically
'evil' about human feces that make them more dangerous or less
beneficial than other animal feces.


Weebles Wobble
(but they don't fall down)

[email protected] November 24th 04 03:59 PM

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:17:22 -0500, DSK wrotf:

I think that for most people of Weeble's ilk, the issue is not one of
biology but of Freudian psychology. Mean ol' mommy won't let them
poo-poo wherever they want, so they kick up a fuss.


wrote:
Nope, just not overburdened with a chicken little, the sky is falling
mentality. Everything in feces - including human feces - is readily
biodegradable and serves as nutrients to many things in the water.


So the facts have pretty much passed you by again?

Consider what human feces is nutrient *for* (other than yourself) and
maybe you'll be able to get a clue.

DSK


The problem is not with human feces. They become a problem only when
dropped in huge concentrations, such as when seaside sewage systems
discharge into the seas or when large vessels pump out their holding
tanks all at once, creating large plumes of black water. Small boats
discharging after each use, especially when the feces have been
treated through chlorination or lectrasan do nothing but add nutrients
to the water since the properly set up sanitary system should destroy
bacteria.


Weebles Wobble
(but they don't fall down)

DSK November 24th 04 06:44 PM

wrote:
Nope, just look at them dispassionately rather than with the typical
environmentalist hysteria.


Please demonstrate what part of my posts are "environmentalist hysteria."




Consider what human feces is nutrient *for* (other than yourself) and
maybe you'll be able to get a clue.



They are nutrients for many things including fish and bacteria, just
like the feces of all other organisms. There is nothing specifically
'evil' about human feces that make them more dangerous or less
beneficial than other animal feces.


And I have never suggested that the matter is spiritual or moral. "Evil"
doesn't enter the picture, microbiology and local ecology do.

Let's consider a hypothetical situation... you have large bucket of
water. It looks perfectly clear & clean, and it is safe to drink.
However if you look at a few drops of it under a microscope, you will
see all sorts of little teensy bugs swimming happily in it. If you get
out a chemistry set and do some analysis on the water, you'll find all
sorts of stuff in it besides pure H2O. With me so far?

Now take a crap into the bucket.

Is it going to be the same, in that it will have the same chemicals &
micro-organisms as before?

Will you drink from the bucket?

Get the picture?

DSK



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