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just me October 28th 04 04:52 PM

East coast advise please
 
I've decided it's time to hang it up and get out of town! I'm currently in
Texas on an inland lake. I'm going to move my boat, a 40' Jeanneau, to the
east coast in the spring of 05. I'm thinking of the Carolinas, but have no
first hand knowledge.
I would appreciate input regarding marinas, monthly costs if possible, and
any recommendations. I'd like to roam the east coast for a year or so then
to the Bahamas and on to the Caribbean (or wherever the wind blows me).
Thanks to all.
Jay





Rich Hampel October 28th 04 06:10 PM

Be very wary of where you keep your boat with respect to draconian
taxation. It usually involves where your boat is located on January 1.

South Carolina and portions of the northeast (actually hidden
Socialist Peoples Republics) impose personal properrty taxes that may
result in very stiff yearly tax bills.
Also be aware that there are 'time limits' that you can visit many
states or you have to pay sales/use taxes or the differential between
what you originally paid where you bought the boat and what that state
charges .... keep a copy of your original tax receipts when traveling
and when over-staying past the tax time limits in these 'class envy' /
'soak the rich' areas. These are typicaly the 'blue' states with
Massachusetts especially draconian and greedy.

Isnt creeping socialism just grand.
PS - Dont forget to vote.






In article aB8gd.434334$mD.157519@attbi_s02, just me
wrote:

I've decided it's time to hang it up and get out of town! I'm currently in
Texas on an inland lake. I'm going to move my boat, a 40' Jeanneau, to the
east coast in the spring of 05. I'm thinking of the Carolinas, but have no
first hand knowledge.
I would appreciate input regarding marinas, monthly costs if possible, and
any recommendations. I'd like to roam the east coast for a year or so then
to the Bahamas and on to the Caribbean (or wherever the wind blows me).
Thanks to all.
Jay





Courtney Thomas October 28th 04 08:47 PM

Jay,

I've heard, no personal experience, that Charleston, SC is rapacious.

If you consider the Oriental, NC area I'd advise you to stay away from
Sailcraft, but recommend Triton Yacht. Tell Paul Welles I sent you if
you call them. Deaton Yacht has also treated me well there. Triton and
Deaton can provide you with current rates.

You can also anchor in the town harbor. I haven't done it so don't know
the particulars. Don't plan on hiding from storms up river unless your
boat has little draft, as the rivers around Oriental are shallow. See
local charts.

It's hot as hell over there in the Summer but if you're leaving Texas,
you'll be fine :-)

Also, NC is 2nd only to FL for lightning and it sticks way out in the
Atlantic making it a good hurricane target. But the entire SE is quite
vulnerable.

Waterfront and near waterfront property has gotten quite pricey in the
last 5 yrs, but I guess that's almost universal now. If you're
interested, tell Larry Gwaltney of Sail Loft Realty I sent you. He's
that rare item these days, competent and a nice guy.

In any case, I've lived in Tx and NC [and live in neither now] and I'd
be most surprised if you weren't much more satisfied, no matter what
you're looking for :-)

HTH
Courtney



just me wrote:

I've decided it's time to hang it up and get out of town! I'm currently in
Texas on an inland lake. I'm going to move my boat, a 40' Jeanneau, to the
east coast in the spring of 05. I'm thinking of the Carolinas, but have no
first hand knowledge.
I would appreciate input regarding marinas, monthly costs if possible, and
any recommendations. I'd like to roam the east coast for a year or so then
to the Bahamas and on to the Caribbean (or wherever the wind blows me).
Thanks to all.
Jay







--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619


Jeff Morris October 28th 04 10:06 PM

Once again the ignorant claim that Massachusetts is greedy. MA has one of the lowest
overall tax rates in the country, as a percentage of income. The sales tax is 5%,
much lower than many states. While boats can be taxed under "excise tax" the same as
cars, the assessments are quite forgiving, and you won't be billed if you're "on the
move," and I've never heard of anyone being forced to register in the state if they
are transient, and documented boats need not register.

Frankly, although MA is nice, its likely that you won't stay in the state long enough
to be zapped, unless of course you decide to live there. Florida is a bigger problem,
because they require you to register (even if documented!) if you stay in the state 3
months.

One more thing - in MA, communities that look for boats to tax tend to do it in July,
not in January. Its a little hard to get numbers off boats packed in a yard, covered
with shrinkwrap and a foot of snow.

And do keep that sales tax receipt!



"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...
Be very wary of where you keep your boat with respect to draconian
taxation. It usually involves where your boat is located on January 1.

South Carolina and portions of the northeast (actually hidden
Socialist Peoples Republics) impose personal properrty taxes that may
result in very stiff yearly tax bills.
Also be aware that there are 'time limits' that you can visit many
states or you have to pay sales/use taxes or the differential between
what you originally paid where you bought the boat and what that state
charges .... keep a copy of your original tax receipts when traveling
and when over-staying past the tax time limits in these 'class envy' /
'soak the rich' areas. These are typicaly the 'blue' states with
Massachusetts especially draconian and greedy.

Isnt creeping socialism just grand.
PS - Dont forget to vote.






In article aB8gd.434334$mD.157519@attbi_s02, just me
wrote:

I've decided it's time to hang it up and get out of town! I'm currently in
Texas on an inland lake. I'm going to move my boat, a 40' Jeanneau, to the
east coast in the spring of 05. I'm thinking of the Carolinas, but have no
first hand knowledge.
I would appreciate input regarding marinas, monthly costs if possible, and
any recommendations. I'd like to roam the east coast for a year or so then
to the Bahamas and on to the Caribbean (or wherever the wind blows me).
Thanks to all.
Jay







prodigal1 October 29th 04 03:37 AM

Jeff Morris wrote:
Once again the ignorant


personally I thought you had it all covered once you got that far

Eisboch October 29th 04 10:47 AM

Jeff Morris wrote:
Once again the ignorant claim that Massachusetts is greedy. MA has one of the lowest
overall tax rates in the country, as a percentage of income. The sales tax is 5%,
much lower than many states. While boats can be taxed under "excise tax" the same as
cars, the assessments are quite forgiving, and you won't be billed if you're "on the
move," and I've never heard of anyone being forced to register in the state if they
are transient, and documented boats need not register.

Frankly, although MA is nice, its likely that you won't stay in the state long enough
to be zapped, unless of course you decide to live there. Florida is a bigger problem,
because they require you to register (even if documented!) if you stay in the state 3
months.

One more thing - in MA, communities that look for boats to tax tend to do it in July,
not in January. Its a little hard to get numbers off boats packed in a yard, covered
with shrinkwrap and a foot of snow.

And do keep that sales tax receipt!


It is interesting that MA, for the first time, is starting to track down
documented boats and hailing ports in an attempt to collect excise
taxes. This summer I got a letter from my town indicating an intent to
impose a tax on my boat, only because the documentation papers list the
town as the hailing port. I replied to the letter indicating that the
boat had never been in town waters, and was actually in a slip in
another town or in Florida. I did not have to pay them, but now the
"other" town has sent a letter.

I did get away with it in Florida though. The boat was there
continuously for a year and a half, but I never registered it in
Florida. I suppose they are cracking down on that down there now also.

Eisboch

Doug Dotson November 5th 04 10:29 PM

The Chesapeake is the best sailing around!

Doug
s/v Callista

"just me" wrote in message
news:aB8gd.434334$mD.157519@attbi_s02...
I've decided it's time to hang it up and get out of town! I'm currently
in Texas on an inland lake. I'm going to move my boat, a 40' Jeanneau, to
the east coast in the spring of 05. I'm thinking of the Carolinas, but
have no first hand knowledge.
I would appreciate input regarding marinas, monthly costs if possible, and
any recommendations. I'd like to roam the east coast for a year or so
then to the Bahamas and on to the Caribbean (or wherever the wind blows
me). Thanks to all.
Jay







Doug Dotson November 5th 04 10:31 PM

Don't start with Annpolis. It will cost you a fortune for dockage
and any other boat work. Pretty much anywhere but Annapolis is
cheaper and the access to the Bay is good and alot less crowded.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Trepplier" wrote in message
...
Go to the Chesapeake, the finest inland sailing, yet ocean accessible.
Start
with Annapolis, then explore from there. You won't be sorry. Good luck.
Ted




krj November 6th 04 02:02 AM

I don't know about that. Have you tried the Windwards?
krj

Doug Dotson wrote:
The Chesapeake is the best sailing around!

Doug
s/v Callista

"just me" wrote in message
news:aB8gd.434334$mD.157519@attbi_s02...

I've decided it's time to hang it up and get out of town! I'm currently
in Texas on an inland lake. I'm going to move my boat, a 40' Jeanneau, to
the east coast in the spring of 05. I'm thinking of the Carolinas, but
have no first hand knowledge.
I would appreciate input regarding marinas, monthly costs if possible, and
any recommendations. I'd like to roam the east coast for a year or so
then to the Bahamas and on to the Caribbean (or wherever the wind blows
me). Thanks to all.
Jay








Doug Dotson November 6th 04 02:06 AM

What part of the East Coast are they?

"krj" wrote in message
.. .
I don't know about that. Have you tried the Windwards?
krj

Doug Dotson wrote:
The Chesapeake is the best sailing around!

Doug
s/v Callista

"just me" wrote in message
news:aB8gd.434334$mD.157519@attbi_s02...

I've decided it's time to hang it up and get out of town! I'm currently
in Texas on an inland lake. I'm going to move my boat, a 40' Jeanneau,
to the east coast in the spring of 05. I'm thinking of the Carolinas,
but have no first hand knowledge.
I would appreciate input regarding marinas, monthly costs if possible,
and any recommendations. I'd like to roam the east coast for a year or
so then to the Bahamas and on to the Caribbean (or wherever the wind
blows me). Thanks to all.
Jay









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