On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:28:44 -0500, "Bill"
wrote:
I think with sailing it was always the adventure. For me, it is hard to see
the adventure with power, although I know some will disagree with that.

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If you like being on and around the water, and cruising to different
places, there's little difference whether you do it by sail or power.
Power is faster in almost all cases, albeit more expensive in most
cases also. That means that you can cover more ground per day and/or
arrive earlier. When we were cruising our Bertam 33 we'd frequently
arrive as others were just pulling out, giving us a good choice of
moorings or anchorages. If you like to anchor out, most power boats
will require some work to make them more suitable (larger battery
banks, inverters, better ground tackle, etc). When it comes to
roominess, comfort and storage space, there's no comparison at all.
Power wins every time. The view from a flybridge is kind of addictive
also, especially for river or canal cruising where it allows you to
see beyond the banks and into the surrounding country side.

"Wayne.B" wrote

If you like being on and around the water, and cruising to different
places, there's little difference whether you do it by sail or
power.

Wha???

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:48:46 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote

If you like being on and around the water, and cruising to different
places, there's little difference whether you do it by sail or
power.

Wha???
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I know, I know, heresy, heresy...

I cruised under sail for many years and enjoyed it enormously. I
raced under sail for many years, enjoyed it a lot, and had a fair
amount of success at it. Been there, done that. All by way of
explaining that I've been on both sides of the issue. I can tell you
with a great deal of certainty that there is much to enjoy about
cruising under power. Try it some time, you might find you like it
also. For creature comforts, protection from the weather, room for
more toys, and extended range on limited time, there's nothing like
it. And don't forget to enjoy the view from the flybridge. :-) All
kidding aside, it's quite a different perspective, and not a bad one
at that.

weenyne tells us he likes a teeny, tiny, titzy-bitzy apartment on the water
'cuz he keeping hoping to dem topless broads on the beach des selves thusly:

From: Wayne.B
Date: 10/21/2004 8:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:48:46 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote

If you like being on and around the water, and cruising to different
places, there's little difference whether you do it by sail or
power.

Wha???
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I know, I know, heresy, heresy...

I cruised under sail for many years and enjoyed it enormously. I
raced under sail for many years, enjoyed it a lot, and had a fair
amount of success at it. Been there, done that. All by way of
explaining that I've been on both sides of the issue. I can tell you
with a great deal of certainty that there is much to enjoy about
cruising under power. Try it some time, you might find you like it
also. For creature comforts, protection from the weather, room for
more toys, and extended range on limited time, there's nothing like
it. And don't forget to enjoy the view from the flybridge. :-) All
kidding aside, it's quite a different perspective, and not a bad one
at that.

On 22 Oct 2004 02:37:11 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

weenyne tells us he likes a teeny, tiny, titzy-bitzy apartment on the water
'cuz he keeping hoping to dem topless broads on the beach des selves thusly:

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My teeny apartment on the water is almost certainly bigger than your
teeny apartment on land. Better furnished too, I'd guess.

hey weenyne, if it makes you feel better to think the stew ped thought, have at
it.

who is anyone to tell you the truth?



From: Wayne.B
Date: 10/21/2004 11:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

On 22 Oct 2004 02:37:11 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

weenyne tells us he likes a teeny, tiny, titzy-bitzy apartment on the water
'cuz he keeping hoping to dem topless broads on the beach des selves thusly:

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My teeny apartment on the water is almost certainly bigger than your
teeny apartment on land. Better furnished too, I'd guess.

jax lives in a trailer. a small trailer.

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:14:53 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:48:46 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote

If you like being on and around the water, and cruising to different
places, there's little difference whether you do it by sail or
power.

Wha???
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I know, I know, heresy, heresy...

Not really, to judge by the number of sailors in their late '50s and
early '60s who start to drool over trawlers at boat shows.

I think a slow-turning trawler (8 knots or so max. speed, but with
1,500 nm range) is a good compromise unless you can find a true
motorsailer that can still actually sail.

Not for me, but I have no problems with former sailboaters moving into
power, particularly if they are respectful of their former wind-borne
colleagues. It's usually the assholes in the speedboats that send
their wake across your foredeck, anyway. Those guys are beyond reason.

R.

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:38:35 -0400, rhys wrote:

Not really, to judge by the number of sailors in their late '50s and
early '60s who start to drool over trawlers at boat shows.

I think a slow-turning trawler (8 knots or so max. speed, but with
1,500 nm range) is a good compromise

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Hope so, just bought one. :-) Actually it's a bit faster but can be
throttled back for close to that kind of range. We looked at a few
motorsailers but didn't really find anything we liked. Our former
Bertram was no long range cruiser but it sure did spoil us for
creature comforts and roomy living.

scotty, next weenyne is going to say it is more difficult to push a throttle
forward than it is to lift a mainsail.
wrote

If you like being on and around the water, and cruising to different
places, there's little difference whether you do it by sail or
power.

Wha???