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Wayne.B October 16th 04 04:01 AM

On 16 Oct 2004 01:25:03 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

a blower is required to be mounted "up high" with its inlet down low, because
if the blower itself were mounted down low it work?

how come the USCG doesn't know this?


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Everyone else knows it, why don't you?




















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Eric Currier October 16th 04 06:31 AM

You mount the blower up high to keep electric motor above the expected
fumes...a blower mounted low can have the fumes seep into the electric motor
that drives it, a blower mounted high has the motor in fresh air and only
the fumes are drawn up to the blower, and the fumes are in the fan section
and from there they are quickly ejected overboard.

Sump pumps are mounted low (in the bilge water) to pump out water and
because they are ment to be submerged they are sealed to keep out water and
fumes which should make them fairly explosion proof.
as far as I know there are no submergable blowers, a blower is ment to move
air and is not ment to work underwater.

If the blower was mounted low when you turned it on you could set off the
explosion you are trying to avoid.

Blowers are mounted high to prevent explosions.

Eric

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Unless the blower is sumbergable (none that I have ever seen are) you

would
want to take care to mount the blower higher than any

----------------------------- expected

----------------------------------
accumulation
of bilge water. Even unexpected amounts!


expected??? unexpected? who the hell is worried about butane in the

bilge
when expected (WTF is that???) water or unexpected water is in the bilge?

if you intend to have water in you bilge, there is still NO need to mount

the
blower "up high". just mount it above "expected" or likely "unexpected"

high
water level mark.

duh.





Wayne.B October 16th 04 06:54 AM

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:31:51 -0500, "Eric Currier"
wrote:

Blowers are mounted high to prevent explosions.


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Careful, Jax is easily confused by the facts.


Eric Currier October 16th 04 07:06 AM

Since when has JAX let facts determine how he thinks?

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:31:51 -0500, "Eric Currier"
wrote:

Blowers are mounted high to prevent explosions.


=========================================

Careful, Jax is easily confused by the facts.




Wayne.B October 16th 04 08:32 AM

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 01:06:28 -0500, "Eric Currier"
wrote:

Since when has JAX let facts determine how he thinks?


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Think ???

Think substance abuse.

Online, realtime.

Hopefully we won't meet him on the road or at sea.

JAXAshby October 16th 04 02:06 PM

the coast guard doesn't, either.

a blower is required to be mounted "up high" with its inlet down low,

because
if the blower itself were mounted down low it work?

how come the USCG doesn't know this?


========================================

Everyone else knows it, why don't you?




















/










JAXAshby October 16th 04 02:08 PM

eric, that is a crock of squat. bilge blowers are required to be "ignition
protected" (look it up, for it has nothing to do with spark plugs at all).

"Eric Currier"
Date: 10/16/2004 1:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: cn2cd.73920$tU4.11401@okepread06

You mount the blower up high to keep electric motor above the expected
fumes...a blower mounted low can have the fumes seep into the electric motor
that drives it, a blower mounted high has the motor in fresh air and only
the fumes are drawn up to the blower, and the fumes are in the fan section
and from there they are quickly ejected overboard.

Sump pumps are mounted low (in the bilge water) to pump out water and
because they are ment to be submerged they are sealed to keep out water and
fumes which should make them fairly explosion proof.
as far as I know there are no submergable blowers, a blower is ment to move
air and is not ment to work underwater.

If the blower was mounted low when you turned it on you could set off the
explosion you are trying to avoid.

Blowers are mounted high to prevent explosions.

Eric

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Unless the blower is sumbergable (none that I have ever seen are) you

would
want to take care to mount the blower higher than any

----------------------------- expected

----------------------------------
accumulation
of bilge water. Even unexpected amounts!


expected??? unexpected? who the hell is worried about butane in the

bilge
when expected (WTF is that???) water or unexpected water is in the bilge?

if you intend to have water in you bilge, there is still NO need to mount

the
blower "up high". just mount it above "expected" or likely "unexpected"

high
water level mark.

duh.













JAXAshby October 16th 04 02:09 PM

you guys are dunderheads if you think bilge blowers are allowed to be made such
that they can cause ignition.

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumb, you clowns are.

From: Wayne.B
Date: 10/16/2004 1:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:31:51 -0500, "Eric Currier"
wrote:

Blowers are mounted high to prevent explosions.


=========================================

Careful, Jax is easily confused by the facts.










JAXAshby October 16th 04 02:10 PM

eric, have *you* ever seen a bilge blower, even on a shelf at West Marine?

"Eric Currier"
Date: 10/16/2004 2:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: GT2cd.73921$tU4.63445@okepread06

Since when has JAX let facts determine how he thinks?

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:31:51 -0500, "Eric Currier"
wrote:

Blowers are mounted high to prevent explosions.


=========================================

Careful, Jax is easily confused by the facts.












Me October 16th 04 06:15 PM

In article ,
(JAXAshby) wrote:

eric, that is a crock of squat. bilge blowers are required to be "ignition
protected" (look it up, for it has nothing to do with spark plugs at all).


Maybe you can tell us, "How to make a 12Vdc Motor that has brushes and
can't cause sparks between those brushes and the commutator"? It can't
be done, Dufus. What can be done, is to seal the motor as best you can,
and then mount it above the expected location of the explosive gases,
with a suction hose down to the lower bilge area, and a VERY short
discharge line.


Me


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