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Peter August 30th 04 11:25 PM

Rubbish (trash/garbage for our American cousins)
 

The refit of Hinewai proceeds apace and starting to appear at the
bottom of the list on Page 2 (and therefore worth starting to
consider) is rubbish (garbage/trash) stowage.

Working within the rules and regs about what can be dumped overboard,
when and where, and even allowing for minimising packaging when
stowing, we still always end up some stuff we have to store on
passage. We always try and wash any foodstuffs etc off it, but it
still starts to hum (smell/pong) a bit after a while.

What do the other august readers of this group do with their trash
that can't go overboard at sea? Where do you stow it? How do you
stop it smelling?

Peter


www.oceanodyssey.net

Peter & Jean looking for sponsors for the Melbourne-Osaka in 2007, and
promising we will get round to updating our website this year.

"Do not measure your life by the number of breaths you take,
Rather by the number of times life just takes your breath away"

Garuda August 31st 04 01:29 AM

If It's biodegradable, it's deep six'd.



Dan Best August 31st 04 02:26 AM

Add to that anything that rusts (such as tin cans) or made out of glass
goes over the side into deep water.

Paper usually gets burned.

About the only thing that gets stored for later disposal is plastic and
aluminum. Both of which we try to minimize in our buying.

Garuda wrote:
If It's biodegradable, it's deep six'd.



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Jere Lull September 1st 04 04:10 AM


Garuda wrote:
If It's biodegradable, it's deep six'd.


In article xtQYc.73282$9d6.4269@attbi_s54, Dan Best
wrote:

Add to that anything that rusts (such as tin cans) or made out of glass
goes over the side into deep water.

Paper usually gets burned.

About the only thing that gets stored for later disposal is plastic and
aluminum. Both of which we try to minimize in our buying.


Off shore, I'd add aluminum as it's natural, one of the most abundant
metals and, as far as I have heard, not injurious to any life form.
About all I would not toss would be plastic and petroleum products.

Inshore is a very different, of course, but rubbish is (generally) easy
& cheap to get rid of.

Travelling between islands, I personally would store my trash in port,
dumping well offshore as *our* little bit affects the wide sea not at
all, but it would contribute slightly to the near-shore problems.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Peter September 1st 04 08:03 AM

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 03:10:33 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:


Garuda wrote:
If It's biodegradable, it's deep six'd.


In article xtQYc.73282$9d6.4269@attbi_s54, Dan Best
wrote:

Add to that anything that rusts (such as tin cans) or made out of glass
goes over the side into deep water.

Paper usually gets burned.

About the only thing that gets stored for later disposal is plastic and
aluminum. Both of which we try to minimize in our buying.


Off shore, I'd add aluminum as it's natural, one of the most abundant
metals and, as far as I have heard, not injurious to any life form.
About all I would not toss would be plastic and petroleum products.

Inshore is a very different, of course, but rubbish is (generally) easy
& cheap to get rid of.

Travelling between islands, I personally would store my trash in port,
dumping well offshore as *our* little bit affects the wide sea not at
all, but it would contribute slightly to the near-shore problems.



Thanks for all of this, but the question was more about how and where
you store the stuff that can't go over the side. And that can depend
on where you are.

Sure, Cans (steel or ali), paper, biodegrabales all go over once we're
far enough off shore, but if you're island hopping (where we no right
to dump our rubbish in small local villages) or coral sailing, we'll
keep everything on board until we are off-shore again or in an
appropriate place that can handle our rubbish.

And even you're are able to deep-six most stuff, you're still left
with all those odd bits of plastic that quite often have had food in
them.

When ever we've sailed on whatever boat, we've sea water washed the
trash, double bagged it and stored it whereever we can - on deck,
below decks, even in the dinghy hanging of davits on the stern (not so
good with downwind sailing). After a while, wherever, there's always
a smell floating around.

So has anyone got any mega ideas of where and how to stow it?

Peter

www.oceanodyssey.net

Peter & Jean looking for sponsors for the Melbourne-Osaka in 2007, and
promising we will get round to updating our website this year.

"Do not measure your life by the number of breaths you take,
Rather by the number of times life just takes your breath away"

Bryan Glover September 12th 04 04:21 PM

Peter Peter@ wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 03:10:33 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:


Garuda wrote:
If It's biodegradable, it's deep six'd.


In article xtQYc.73282$9d6.4269@attbi_s54, Dan Best
wrote:

Add to that anything that rusts (such as tin cans) or made out of glass
goes over the side into deep water.

Paper usually gets burned.

About the only thing that gets stored for later disposal is plastic and
aluminum. Both of which we try to minimize in our buying.


Off shore, I'd add aluminum as it's natural, one of the most abundant
metals and, as far as I have heard, not injurious to any life form.
About all I would not toss would be plastic and petroleum products.

Inshore is a very different, of course, but rubbish is (generally) easy
& cheap to get rid of.

Travelling between islands, I personally would store my trash in port,
dumping well offshore as *our* little bit affects the wide sea not at
all, but it would contribute slightly to the near-shore problems.



Thanks for all of this, but the question was more about how and where
you store the stuff that can't go over the side. And that can depend
on where you are.

Sure, Cans (steel or ali), paper, biodegrabales all go over once we're
far enough off shore, but if you're island hopping (where we no right
to dump our rubbish in small local villages) or coral sailing, we'll
keep everything on board until we are off-shore again or in an
appropriate place that can handle our rubbish.

And even you're are able to deep-six most stuff, you're still left
with all those odd bits of plastic that quite often have had food in
them.

When ever we've sailed on whatever boat, we've sea water washed the
trash, double bagged it and stored it whereever we can - on deck,
below decks, even in the dinghy hanging of davits on the stern (not so
good with downwind sailing). After a while, wherever, there's always
a smell floating around.

So has anyone got any mega ideas of where and how to stow it?

Peter

www.oceanodyssey.net

Peter & Jean looking for sponsors for the Melbourne-Osaka in 2007, and
promising we will get round to updating our website this year.

"Do not measure your life by the number of breaths you take,
Rather by the number of times life just takes your breath away"


Peter
I have a swanson 28, with a very roomy sealed chain locker, does the job for me.
regarding your mel-osa race, phone me in melbourne 0410458248 or 93769978
about taking a series drogue on your trip, will supply cones if you make
regards
bryan glover
www.seriesdrogue.com
oh no,how cld u, not a commercial web site, give me some pills!!!!


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