And the Sand Hole is a stop for boats transiting the Sound.


no, it isn't. It is a weekend stopping off point for drunken frat boys in
powerboats. a stop for those "transiting the Sound" is City Island, Port
Washington, Oyster Bay, Oyster Bay West Harbor (both near Sand Hole),
Northport, Port Jeff and **maybe** Matituck Inlet, plus all those rocky,
exposed anchorages on the CT shore.

Any transits figuring to use Sand Hole at a stop point has rocks for brains.

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And the Sand Hole is a stop for boats transiting the Sound.


no, it isn't. It is a weekend stopping off point for drunken frat boys in
powerboats. a stop for those "transiting the Sound" is City Island, Port
Washington, Oyster Bay, Oyster Bay West Harbor (both near Sand Hole),
Northport, Port Jeff and **maybe** Matituck Inlet, plus all those rocky,
exposed anchorages on the CT shore.

Any transits figuring to use Sand Hole at a stop point has rocks for brains.

You seem to be in a really bad mood today. Transients do indeed stop at the
Sand Hole. Also, your characterization of the usual, crowd there as "drunken
frat boys" is way off the mark.

your characterization of the usual, crowd there as "drunken
frat boys" is way off the mark.

you have been there, what once?

Or, do *you* consider a 12 pack of beer a day as "normal", and anyone over 25
to be an "old fart"?

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your characterization of the usual, crowd there as "drunken
frat boys" is way off the mark.

you have been there, what once?

For nearly twenty years, at least once a month and often far more frequently on
two different sailboats.

Or, do *you* consider a 12 pack of beer a day as "normal"

Only a 12-pack? Do you pay that much attention to what people on other boats
are doing?

, and anyone over 25
to be an "old fart"?

Well, no. I'm 73 and certainly do not consider myself an old fart. I like
parties and people who party even if we are content to merely sit on our boat
cleaning out the spirit locker. In the old days it was even better, until the
place became part of a NY State park, big signs saying "NO!" went up all over
the place and bird huggers started patrolling the place to keep people and dogs
off the beach. In those days people would set up tent cities on the beach, have
huge bonfires and occasional fireworks and it was indeed wall-to-wall boats
with dragging, fouled anchors and all that. Used to be able to get a bushel of
oysters off the beach in fifteen minutes. But the bonfires, tent cities and the
oysters are gone leaving us nought but tepid silence and clams for raucous
partying. Even the helicopter that used to operate from the big house next to
the water has gone away.

But you do strike me as querulous old fart.

And in those nearly twenty years, I have seen and spoken many and many a
transient yacht headed north or south. Have given some of them charts and other
assistance.

how about that? a 73 year old man trying to drink a frat boy under the table
on cheap beer.

Or, do *you* consider a 12 pack of beer a day as "normal"

Only a 12-pack? Do you pay that much attention to what people on other boats
are doing?

, and anyone over 25
to be an "old fart"?

Well, no. I'm 73 and certainly do not consider myself an old fart. I like
parties and people who party even if we are content to merely sit on our boat

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 07:02:35 -0400, Gogarty
wrote:

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says...


And the Sand Hole is a stop for boats transiting the Sound.


no, it isn't. It is a weekend stopping off point for drunken frat boys in
powerboats. a stop for those "transiting the Sound" is City Island, Port
Washington, Oyster Bay, Oyster Bay West Harbor (both near Sand Hole),
Northport, Port Jeff and **maybe** Matituck Inlet, plus all those rocky,
exposed anchorages on the CT shore.

Any transits figuring to use Sand Hole at a stop point has rocks for brains.

You seem to be in a really bad mood today. Transients do indeed stop at the
Sand Hole. Also, your characterization of the usual, crowd there as "drunken
frat boys" is way off the mark.

That list omits Eatons Neck, [barely] accessible at all tides to our
7-ft draft. It also has power boats in the day time, although none I
would describe as "drunken frat boys."

The only disturbance at night is the CG station, and they don't make a
lot of noise.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Curse thee, thou quadrant. No longer will I guide my earthly way by thee." Capt. Ahab

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That list omits Eatons Neck, [barely] accessible at all tides to our
7-ft draft. It also has power boats in the day time, although none I
would describe as "drunken frat boys."

Only went in to that Eaton's Neck hole once. Didn't like it. Struck me as
spooky.

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:24:34 -0400, Gogarty
wrote:

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says...



That list omits Eatons Neck, [barely] accessible at all tides to our
7-ft draft. It also has power boats in the day time, although none I
would describe as "drunken frat boys."

Only went in to that Eaton's Neck hole once. Didn't like it. Struck me as
spooky.


Yes. What makes it spooky is that you don't hear any motor vehicles or
trains--very unusual on Long Island. That is because the surrounding
land is a nature preserve. There actually is a road to the CG station
on the other side of the hill, but you normally don't hear it.

I like it that way. One of my favorite anchorages in Maine, for
exactly that reason, is the Cow's Yard, at Head Harbor Island in
Maine.

Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Curse thee, thou quadrant. No longer will I guide my earthly way by thee." Capt. Ahab

In article ,
says...


Only went in to that Eaton's Neck hole once. Didn't like it. Struck me as
spooky.


Yes. What makes it spooky is that you don't hear any motor vehicles or
trains--very unusual on Long Island. That is because the surrounding
land is a nature preserve. There actually is a road to the CG station
on the other side of the hill, but you normally don't hear it.

The same is true of the Sand Hole. It is part of Caumsett State Park. There is
no road or railroad track within miles. You can only walk in over an ancient
planked path or along the Sound side beach or ge there by boat. When the power
boats go home it is utterly silent but not the least bit spooky.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:04:04 -0400, Gogarty
wrote:

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says...


Only went in to that Eaton's Neck hole once. Didn't like it. Struck me as
spooky.


Yes. What makes it spooky is that you don't hear any motor vehicles or
trains--very unusual on Long Island. That is because the surrounding
land is a nature preserve. There actually is a road to the CG station
on the other side of the hill, but you normally don't hear it.

The same is true of the Sand Hole. It is part of Caumsett State Park. There is
no road or railroad track within miles. You can only walk in over an ancient
planked path or along the Sound side beach or ge there by boat. When the power
boats go home it is utterly silent but not the least bit spooky.

So something else makes Eatons spooky for you? I find it a delightful
spot, especially after the motor boats have gone home.

In any case this thread has made clear that I have no hope of getting
into the Sand Hole with 7-ft draft.




Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


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