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Use desktop PCs on sail boat?
Im not a sailor but I have a question out of curiosity.
Is it possible to use small form factor desktops on boats with DC systems rather than use laptops? Bottom line.... can one use and modify a desktop to run off 12 vdc boat system..... or is one just stuck using and buying laptops that are already setup to use battery DC power? |
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Most midsize or larger boats probably have an 'inverter'
which can convert the direct current from your deep cycle battery to 120v alternating current. |
Use desktop PCs on sail boat?
Go look at http://www.logicsupply.com/. I got a VIA TC-10000 with a 12v
dc power supply. Inverter have a lot of RFI. Hanz Don White wrote: Most midsize or larger boats probably have an 'inverter' which can convert the direct current from your deep cycle battery to 120v alternating current. |
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hanz wrote in message ...
Go look at http://www.logicsupply.com/. I got a VIA TC-10000 with a 12v dc power supply. Inverter have a lot of RFI. Hanz Don White wrote: Most midsize or larger boats probably have an 'inverter' which can convert the direct current from your deep cycle battery to 120v alternating current. I think the problem with a desk top PC on a boat is that they are power hogs. If a desk top PC uses 240 W, that is 20 Amps at 12 V. That is a lot of power. If you use an inverter then you also have the losses of the inverter. I think people use a Laptop because they use much less power. I personally would love to use a desktop PC because they are much cheaper and componenets are much easier to replace, but the power consumptions is preventing me from going that route. Does somebody have an solution to this problem, ie a desk top PC that uses the power of a Laptop? |
Use desktop PCs on sail boat?
Another consideration....with the laptop is the built in battery. If power
goes out, or hiccups, the laptop's power management automatically kicks over the battery. That feature alone will keep your software happy, since you could loose data and cause data corruption. I've heard of boaters using fullsize PCs on inverter setups, but also having a battery backup just in case the inverter fails. I've seen battery backups as low as $59 at the local Staples/BestBuy, etc that will give you 9-10 minutes of power...long enough to sort out the inverter issues or shutdown safely if its a more serious issue. Think worse case...and redundancy! -Paul I think the problem with a desk top PC on a boat is that they are power hogs. If a desk top PC uses 240 W, that is 20 Amps at 12 V. That is a lot of power. If you use an inverter then you also have the losses of the inverter. I think people use a Laptop because they use much less power. I personally would love to use a desktop PC because they are much cheaper and componenets are much easier to replace, but the power consumptions is preventing me from going that route. Does somebody have an solution to this problem, ie a desk top PC that uses the power of a Laptop? |
Use desktop PCs on sail boat?
I think the problem with a desk top PC on a boat is that they are
power hogs. If a desk top PC uses 240 W, that is 20 Amps at 12 V. That is a lot of power. If you use an inverter then you also have the losses of the inverter. I think people use a Laptop because they use much less power. I personally would love to use a desktop PC because they are much cheaper and componenets are much easier to replace, but the power consumptions is preventing me from going that route. Does somebody have an solution to this problem, ie a desk top PC that uses the power of a Laptop? Ahh yes... I see your point Most laptops are designed to be very frugal with power, aren't they? Im like you....Id rather use a small desktop tho. Maybe someone has developed a line of desktop based on low power components of laptops? |
Use desktop PCs on sail boat?
Another consideration....with the laptop is the built in battery. If power
goes out, or hiccups, the laptop's power management automatically kicks over the battery. Good point |
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Use desktop PCs on sail boat?
Does somebody have an solution to this problem, ie a desk top PC that
uses the power of a Laptop? Look at: http://www.argonautcomputer.com/minicomputer.htm It is a little pricey but is possible solution or https://www.cybernetman.com/default.cfm?DocId=617 |
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Laptops tend to be a bit more rugged, but using a small desktop and
a flat panel display will keep the power consumption down. Doug s/v Callista wrote in message ... Im not a sailor but I have a question out of curiosity. Is it possible to use small form factor desktops on boats with DC systems rather than use laptops? Bottom line.... can one use and modify a desktop to run off 12 vdc boat system..... or is one just stuck using and buying laptops that are already setup to use battery DC power? |
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"Doug Dotson" wrote in message ...
Laptops tend to be a bit more rugged, but using a small desktop and a flat panel display will keep the power consumption down. Doug s/v Callista wrote in message ... Im not a sailor but I have a question out of curiosity. Is it possible to use small form factor desktops on boats with DC systems rather than use laptops? Bottom line.... can one use and modify a desktop to run off 12 vdc boat system..... or is one just stuck using and buying laptops that are already setup to use battery DC power? I would like to use a desk top for the following reasons: 1. Lower cost than Laptops 2. Can be readily adapted to fit my needs by adding cards etc 3. If a drive goes BO it can be changed. So, how can I get a desktop that maintains the above advantages, but uses 12 V power and low amps. I don't want to buy a specialty desktop, then I might jsut as well buy a laptop. The suggestion to use a Flat panel screen is good. But what about the PC itself. How should I confugure that. Are 12 V power supplies available for a desk top? One reply said that a 1 GHz Celeron processor uses the same amount of power in as a laptop. Wat about drives? I think I would need a hard drive and a CD reader. Are they the culprit for high power consumption? What about Cards I need the mother board plus a modem. |
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On 9 Aug 2004 21:24:25 -0700, something compelled
(Rolf), to say: I would like to use a desk top for the following reasons: 1. Lower cost than Laptops 2. Can be readily adapted to fit my needs by adding cards etc 3. If a drive goes BO it can be changed. What do you want to do with the computer? The answer to this question should drive your decisions. |
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DiscountMaineSoftware.Com wrote:
Another consideration....with the laptop is the built in battery. If power goes out, or hiccups, the laptop's power management automatically kicks over the battery. That feature alone will keep your software happy, since you could loose data and cause data corruption. I've heard of boaters using fullsize PCs on inverter setups, but also having a battery backup just in case the inverter fails. I've seen battery backups as low as $59 at the local Staples/BestBuy, etc that will give you 9-10 minutes of power...long enough to sort out the inverter issues or shutdown safely if its a more serious issue. Think worse case...and redundancy! -Paul I think the problem with a desk top PC on a boat is that they are power hogs. If a desk top PC uses 240 W, that is 20 Amps at 12 V. That is a lot of power. If you use an inverter then you also have the losses of the inverter. I think people use a Laptop because they use much less power. I personally would love to use a desktop PC because they are much cheaper and componenets are much easier to replace, but the power consumptions is preventing me from going that route. Does somebody have an solution to this problem, ie a desk top PC that uses the power of a Laptop? The PC power is sucked mainly by the CRT monitor. A modern alternative would do wonders. Check the power consumption. There are 12v adapters that will provide 16 or whatever your laptop demands. Most will slurp up 13 or so happily. Won't really hurt to try. IF it boots, hay, go for it. Make backups first. 50 watts means 5 amp hours per hour, about. YMMV Terry K |
Use desktop PCs on sail boat?
I would like to use a desk top for the following reasons:
1. Lower cost than Laptops 2. Can be readily adapted to fit my needs by adding cards etc 3. If a drive goes BO it can be changed. These are the same reasons that I posted original question abt using desktops! I want the "flexibility" of a desktop as far as repairs and upgrades..... but the low power consumption and compactness of a laptop. From what Ive learned just listening to everyones opinions is.... that it n fact CAN be done using smallish desktops. But maybe at a price |
Use desktop PCs on sail boat?
You are not going to be able to use a cheap, run-of-the-mill desktop
straight from 12v DC power. Inside there is a power supply that produces several different voltages used by the PC. Your only alternative is to use an inverter. I don't think power consumption would be that great if you use a flat panel monitor. If your activity caused your hard drive to run a lot this would be increased. Additional RAM would reduce this need. FWIW, John Neal comments in his cruising book that he has used common desktop computers on his boat for years without trouble. "Rolf" wrote in message om... "Doug Dotson" wrote in message ... Laptops tend to be a bit more rugged, but using a small desktop and a flat panel display will keep the power consumption down. Doug s/v Callista wrote in message ... Im not a sailor but I have a question out of curiosity. Is it possible to use small form factor desktops on boats with DC systems rather than use laptops? Bottom line.... can one use and modify a desktop to run off 12 vdc boat system..... or is one just stuck using and buying laptops that are already setup to use battery DC power? I would like to use a desk top for the following reasons: 1. Lower cost than Laptops 2. Can be readily adapted to fit my needs by adding cards etc 3. If a drive goes BO it can be changed. So, how can I get a desktop that maintains the above advantages, but uses 12 V power and low amps. I don't want to buy a specialty desktop, then I might jsut as well buy a laptop. The suggestion to use a Flat panel screen is good. But what about the PC itself. How should I confugure that. Are 12 V power supplies available for a desk top? One reply said that a 1 GHz Celeron processor uses the same amount of power in as a laptop. Wat about drives? I think I would need a hard drive and a CD reader. Are they the culprit for high power consumption? What about Cards I need the mother board plus a modem. |
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:39:36 GMT, "Gordon Wedman"
wrote: You are not going to be able to use a cheap, run-of-the-mill desktop straight from 12v DC power. Inside there is a power supply that produces several different voltages used by the PC. Your only alternative is to use an inverter. There are some 12 volt power supplies that can be used in place of the standard AC supplies in most desktop machines - but they may cost more than a suitable inverter. -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca |
Use desktop PCs on sail boat?
FWIW, John Neal comments in his cruising book that he has used common
desktop computers on his boat for years without trouble. OK Well reason Im asking is cause a good friend and his wife just sold EVERYTHING and drove down to Florida and bought a 32' sail boat and taking a year to "cruise" They started planning three years back for this by taking all kinds of classes, etc se link http://www.sailkabuki.com/ Anyway..... I don't own a boat and don't know anything abt sailing... but his adventure has me fascinated! As a result Ive posted a few messages on the "nuts and bolts" for doing such a thing |
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There are some 12 volt power supplies that can be used in place of the
standard AC supplies in most desktop machines - but they may cost more than a suitable inverter. OK Well it sounds like that maybe rather than "swimming upstream" one should go ahead and just buy/use laptop PCs Im not really a big fan of laptops cause they cant be serviced easily, etc..... but sometimes I guess one cant fight the economies of scale of some things such as laptop production and prices. So....sounds like it just best to use laptops on sail boats and such cause they are cheaper, use low power components, etc |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 01:47:52 -0400, rhys wrote:
Something else to consider is this: a 15 inch LCD display is well under $500 these days and can also display chartplotter info, GPS, radar and whatnot when hooked into the appropriate "black boxes" To my mind, getting separate displays or "multi-function marine" display at six or seven inches across is silly when you can have the same info on an LCD screen in a waterproof bag on an armature in the companionway. When needed, fire it up and pull the screen into view...when finished, push it back into relative weather protection. I have heard of people using infrared controls and wireless mice to "click" between GPS, charts, radar and the evening news on LCDs hooked into small PCs and the appropriate sensing units...the point is that ANY relatively current PC is much more powerful and adaptable than a single task-oriented "marine" display, like a chart plotter. Of course, there's the "all eggs in one basket" argument, but that's why you throw a handheld GPS with extra batteries into the "crash box". What you say has a good deal of merit, IMHO. Just to be fair and balanced, I'll mention the two downsides I've observed. First, daylight visibility of commonly available and reasonably priced displays is poor. Second, when the chips are down and the seas are high, screwing around with a mouse and standard keyboard to setup waypoints is a bit problematical. I have some thoughts about that, but I haven't had a chance to experiment. My current approach is to keep the standalone instruments, using the PC as a repeater. That gives me the best of both worlds. Please excuse the blatant commercialism in my standard sig. At least it's on topic... __________________________________________________ __________ Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious. Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ |
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napisal(a):
As a result Ive posted a few messages on the "nuts and bolts" for doing such a thing From all of this discussion I have learned that I have two choices: Use a cheap, fixable and adptable Desk top PC with an LCD monitor to hold power usage down, and an inverter to supply the power, or use a laptop. The first choice uses more epower, the second choice loses on varsatility and fixability. For me Computers is a learn-as-you-go thing and therefore I am leaning to the cheap PC route. Maybe I can use the LCD monitor also as TV for watching movies and therfore would get a larger monitor thatn usually comes with a laptop. I have a solution - get a desktop PC AND a laptop. With a decent laptop you can do almost everything while sailing. And on a mooring, you plug 110/220AC, take the desktop out and work with all the flexability you need. It's not so much money that one can't spend, but it solves both problems, if you really need the desktop. Using desktop with batteries is a stupid thing on a small boat - it consumes 100Watt easily, plus the LCD another 30-40Watt, since it's bright and not designed to save power. And you cannot suspend it. Laptop consumes 60-80W and has several levels of power saving. And remember, that the inverter generates a quite fair power loss. -- Samotnik www.zagle.org.pl - rejsy morskie |
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:00:54 -0500, something compelled
, to say: So....sounds like it just best to use laptops on sail boats and such cause they are cheaper, use low power components, etc That is all true. And you can take it ashore to connect it to your broadband Internet connection to download software or upload files to your website. Or you can just take it ashore so nobody steals the damm thing. |
Use desktop PCs on sail boat?
From all of this discussion I have learned that I have two choices:
Use a cheap, fixable and adptable Desk top PC with an LCD monitor to hold power usage down, and an inverter to supply the power, or use a laptop. The first choice uses more epower, the second choice loses on varsatility and fixability. Yep that's what Ive learned as well Maybe I can use the LCD monitor also as TV for watching movies and therfore would get a larger monitor thatn usually comes with a laptop. That's another reason I was curious abt using a desktop on a boat/ sail boat. I was thinking that one could put a TV card in it and use it as a TV as well as general use PC see link for such cards and devices http://tinyurl.com/6vdbb In the link above there also exists a USB TV card that I suppose one could use with a laptop as well, correct? |
Use desktop PCs on sail boat?
Something else to consider is this: a 15 inch LCD display is well
under $500 these days and can also display chartplotter info, GPS, radar and whatnot when hooked into the appropriate "black boxes" Exactly. And that was the impetus for my question.... i.e. whether a single "box" or PC can be used for multiple functions on a sail boat or any boat Again.... I know NOTHING abt boats.... but just curios And i really "prefer" desktop PCs cause they are more flexible than laptop PCs in that one can open the desktop up and work on them, adding things, etc. Of course, there's the "all eggs in one basket" argument, but that's why you throw a handheld GPS with extra batteries into the "crash box". Good point! Or maybe just have a backup box on hand at all times |
Use desktop PCs on sail boat?
Using desktop with batteries is a stupid thing on a small boat - it consumes 100Watt easily, plus the LCD another 30-40Watt, since it's bright and not designed to save power. And you cannot suspend it. Laptop consumes 60-80W and has several levels of power saving. Good point And like I said earlier maybe it best to use a laptop anyway for above reasons. Also the economies of scale give us good deals on laptops |
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You might look into Mini-ITX. Its the size and power consumption of a laptop,
but with pci slots and replaceable disk drives, etc. Of course, not that much bang for the buck, compared to off the shelf stuff. wrote in message ... Something else to consider is this: a 15 inch LCD display is well under $500 these days and can also display chartplotter info, GPS, radar and whatnot when hooked into the appropriate "black boxes" Exactly. And that was the impetus for my question.... i.e. whether a single "box" or PC can be used for multiple functions on a sail boat or any boat Again.... I know NOTHING abt boats.... but just curios And i really "prefer" desktop PCs cause they are more flexible than laptop PCs in that one can open the desktop up and work on them, adding things, etc. Of course, there's the "all eggs in one basket" argument, but that's why you throw a handheld GPS with extra batteries into the "crash box". Good point! Or maybe just have a backup box on hand at all times |
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You might look into Mini-ITX. Its the size and power consumption of a laptop,
but with pci slots and replaceable disk drives, etc. Of course, not that much bang for the buck, compared to off the shelf stuff. Do you mean small form factor computers like this Shuttle? Like one in link? http://us.shuttle.com/SB81P.asp If yes..... this is the model I was wondering COULD be used for boating applications. |
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Just to share about my setup.
I have a used Pentium II with 256 Mb of RAM (total cost 100 $). I run Windows 2000 for stability with most services disabled (i'm a computer professional) to save on performance. The hard disk is partitionned in C: and D: and the physical disk is on a drawer which mean it can be easily removed when i'm afraid of being stolen or for reconfiguration purpose. The hard disk is a 20 Gb and hold all marine card and 5000 MP3 that i carry aboard. (total cost of disk + drawer 100 $). The screen is a 12 Volt native Proview 12 inches (total cost 250 $) and visibility is very good but i'm not in direct sunlight, i'm inside the boat.. The computer is feeded by a 300 watt inverted and amperage while running is about 10 A. Truly said it is a lot of Amps, when someone think that my freezer draws only 4 A when working.... A laptop (i got 2 but not on the boat) would draw only 3 A. The 7 A of difference between the PC and the laptop is largely overcome by an energy management strategy (hibernate the PC when not in use and having separate starting/auxiliaries batteries) and by the fact that it is fairly cheap, cannot be stolen because the PC is bolted under the floor of the boat, and could be repaired/replaced anywhere. Have this configuration for 3 years without any problem and now with WiFi in most marina the pleasure is just beginning. Cheers André Auxiliary Coast Guard "Le Nomade" wrote in message ... From all of this discussion I have learned that I have two choices: Use a cheap, fixable and adptable Desk top PC with an LCD monitor to hold power usage down, and an inverter to supply the power, or use a laptop. The first choice uses more epower, the second choice loses on varsatility and fixability. Yep that's what Ive learned as well Maybe I can use the LCD monitor also as TV for watching movies and therfore would get a larger monitor thatn usually comes with a laptop. That's another reason I was curious abt using a desktop on a boat/ sail boat. I was thinking that one could put a TV card in it and use it as a TV as well as general use PC see link for such cards and devices http://tinyurl.com/6vdbb In the link above there also exists a USB TV card that I suppose one could use with a laptop as well, correct? |
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I think they are similar, but the mini-ITX is made by VIA. The motherboard is
very complete. I put together an ME-6000 system with a DVD player and a TV card. Its powered off a "brick" although you could probably use boat DC power if you weren't afraid of regulation issues. (I would simply use a small inverter.) I've been a bit disappointed - the case had a noisy fan and trying to slow the fan allows the cpu to overheat. And some of the advertised features simply don't work because VIA doesn't always supply promised drivers. But it is cute, and low enough power to leave it on all the time. And like a desktop machine, I can take it apart and swap out components. http://www.mini-itx.com/store/ wrote in message ... You might look into Mini-ITX. Its the size and power consumption of a laptop, but with pci slots and replaceable disk drives, etc. Of course, not that much bang for the buck, compared to off the shelf stuff. Do you mean small form factor computers like this Shuttle? Like one in link? http://us.shuttle.com/SB81P.asp If yes..... this is the model I was wondering COULD be used for boating applications. |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 07:07:43 GMT, "Glen \"Wiley\" Wilson"
wrote: What you say has a good deal of merit, IMHO. Well, thanks...it mainly comes out of being forced to think outside of the box (PC box?) due to the effective 300% premium of the word "marine"... Just to be fair and balanced, I'll mention the two downsides I've observed. First, daylight visibility of commonly available and reasonably priced displays is poor. Which is why I would NOT have the display in the sun, per se, but mounted on a swiveling armature that is viewed in the relative shade of the companionway. Fiddling with the text size settings can conceivably give huge numerals that should be visible for depth finding, say. I would concur that if you want to see radar or densely packed charts in your cockpit, you may need a specialty display. It needn't be "marine", however, as there may be options from the automotive arena or the sort of displays used by paramedics in the field and so on. Or a simple hood with Velcro strips to block extraneous light. Second, when the chips are down and the seas are high, screwing around with a mouse and standard keyboard to setup waypoints is a bit problematical. Yes, it is. But if you require, say, a switch between a chart plotting display linked to the GPS providing a current position and a heads up radar display set to 12 miles, you can click a wireless mouse at the IR sensor in the display (add on or built in) without leaving the wheel or tiller. That's actually easier than punching in waypoints using most Raytheon etc. displays. I am not knocking such devices, but merely pointing out that they command a high and perhaps unnecessary premium (for most sailors) considering what they do and how they display information....part of the reason many people don't want bigger displays is, I suspect, that they don't want that windage on the cabintop, and/or to cut that big a hole in the bulkhead, or to clutter up the binnacle. The largish, fold away display which uses a PC to link the various incoming depth sounder/radar/GPS signals seems to me to be a workable compromise. I have some thoughts about that, but I haven't had a chance to experiment. My current approach is to keep the standalone instruments, using the PC as a repeater. That gives me the best of both worlds. Please excuse the blatant commercialism in my standard sig. At least it's on topic... Actually, it's handy to consider, as there are a few "getting all the kids not to argue" issues with integrating all these gadgets on a PC. The repeater idea is good, too, because you can bury the PC box someplace safe and dry and run USB to displays and keyboards, etc. you can pack away when not in use in the nav station drawers. R. |
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Or you can run your desktop PC on 12 volts. See link below for one
example. Search with "dc input" as one of your terms to find others. PC Power & Cooling company offered a 12volt supply once, but I didn't see it on there site when I glanced through it today. http://www.orbitmicro.com/products/p...c-dc%20ps2.htm This is not a sure fix, but it _might_ help a lot. You need to check power consumption specs, what sort of power management controls the supply includes (some supplies can be controlled by your software, something like a laptop), how clean the input voltage has to be and what RFI certification (if any) the product has - amoung other things. By selecting your operating system and components (harddisks, CDs, DVDs, displays, etc) carefully to find those with good power management options, you can produce low consumption PC. Some mother boards and power supplies provide fan controls to slow or stop the fans when the machine hibernates. However, the process can be frustrating because: 1) the real specs take time to locate; 2) the software and hardware interactions can become complex - and sometimes they just don't work like the book says they do. But it's doable, and a little research should tell you whether you can get 80% of the benefit by spending 20% of the effort (skip the tough power management/software issues). Another idea would be to use laptop harddisks. They run slower, but they use less power; AFAIK they use the same hard disk interface protocol and I believe there are mounting kits (with adapters for your ribbon cables) to install them in standard cases. Dirt and cooling can be issues and they are related. This is just standard PC stuff, but if you're not living 3 blocks from CompUSA, it becomes more than just an annoyance when the machine takes a crap. A PC generates heat and when things are right, cooling fans carry it away. But the air the fans move around can contain dust and cat hair and the like and this clogs up the fins of heat sinks, covers the fan blades, and generally messes up the heat/cooling balance. It helps to take the time to find all the air inlets on a PC case and cut pieces of furnace filter material to cover them and keep (some of) the dust out of the PC. Or mount the whole case inside a protective box with large carefully located air holes which you cover with several layers of filter material; seal all seams. Nothing complicated or difficult about this, but it can save your PC. You can build machines with motherboards and operating systems which monitor temperatures and will shut down before the PC toasts itself, but this takes a fair amount of research and careful software installation (but not more $$). I use a wireless mouse and keyboard and find them a god-send. I just throw the keybd and mouse in a slot by the display and have the table clear - no muss with cables. Haven't got rid of the USB or printer cables yet, but with the USB I just bring one cable up and velcro the multiport connector to the bulkhead above the table. You could probably install the DVD in a separate box on the table, as long as the PC is located within about 36". The point of all this is to keep the PC locked away safe, clean, and cool, untouched. Have fun. Rufus wrote: Im not a sailor but I have a question out of curiosity. Is it possible to use small form factor desktops on boats with DC systems rather than use laptops? Bottom line.... can one use and modify a desktop to run off 12 vdc boat system..... or is one just stuck using and buying laptops that are already setup to use battery DC power? |
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And like a desktop machine, I
can take it apart and swap out components. Exactly! That was reason for my original post abt even using desktops for marine/boat use |
These guys offer the Shuttle case with a 12v power supply and they
coat the boards as well to give them some protection. http://www.marinercomputers.co.uk/ Mark |
Those prices are a bit high for just adding conformal coating. You can
build a really nice SS56G shuttle system equal to the 2.8 Mhz P4 "Mariner II" for about $700. They want $1,500. The heat pipe and variable speed fan are standard features and a can of conformal coating spray is about $6. M A Shaw wrote: These guys offer the Shuttle case with a 12v power supply and they coat the boards as well to give them some protection. http://www.marinercomputers.co.uk/ Mark -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Those prices are a bit high for just adding conformal coating. You can
build a really nice SS56G shuttle system equal to the 2.8 Mhz P4 "Mariner II" for about $700. They want $1,500. The heat pipe and variable speed fan are standard features and a can of conformal coating spray is about $6. That's even better info! Thanks! |
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