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Vic Smith December 22nd 12 01:59 AM

Fixed my Adlor-Barbour Refrigerator.
 
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 08:38:31 +0700, Bruce
wrote:



Actually it doesn't work that way here. Firstly, one buys the
absolutely cheapest vacuum pump that one can find. One has never hear
of a "micron gauge" so one uses the standard two gauge set. Time is
money and there is another customer waiting so vacuuming (which
produces no visible results) is done as quickly as possible - usually
until the gauge stabilizes and then load the refrigerant, and then
demonstrate the air from the evaporator is cold, shut down and get the
money. NEXT! :-)

(and damn! it seems to work :-)


And that's why they say "Whatever works." (-:

Bruce[_3_] December 22nd 12 02:00 AM

Fixed my Adlor-Barbour Refrigerator.
 
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:21:18 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:09:13 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:41:55 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

But, just recently over the past month or so it has been acting up. It
starts
to compress and then acts like it is overloaded and the compressor runs
faster
and gets louder and the fan runs faster but the compression pretty much
ceases
to compress as evidenced by the voltage on the volt meter jumping up about
a
volt.

===

How do you keep your batteries charged up?



Capt. Neal don't need no stinking electricity... he relies on his
sails.



Sorry, Bruce, but I rely on the same thing that produces the wind
for my sails - the sun. Unlike you, I don't plug into the grid. You
lubbers who like to go around yelling about mankind causing
global warming are, for the most part, hypocrites. Only those
living off the grid who practice what they preach are deserving
of my respect.


Yes, I tried that for a while.... the problem is that solar panels
produce very tiny amounts of electricity during periods of overcast
weather. I realize that your nautical experience is solely in the Keys
(where the sun shines every day) but if you were to venture out into
the world you would discover that your solar panels will not always
provide sufficient power to keep your batteries charged.
--
Cheers,
Bruce

Bruce[_3_] December 22nd 12 12:19 PM

Fixed my Adlor-Barbour Refrigerator.
 
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:59:29 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 08:38:31 +0700, Bruce
wrote:



Actually it doesn't work that way here. Firstly, one buys the
absolutely cheapest vacuum pump that one can find. One has never hear
of a "micron gauge" so one uses the standard two gauge set. Time is
money and there is another customer waiting so vacuuming (which
produces no visible results) is done as quickly as possible - usually
until the gauge stabilizes and then load the refrigerant, and then
demonstrate the air from the evaporator is cold, shut down and get the
money. NEXT! :-)

(and damn! it seems to work :-)


And that's why they say "Whatever works." (-:



Years ago, in North Thailand, I used to walk past a little welding
shop where the guy did most of the work out on the sidewalk. Anyway,
one day I came walking by and the guy's got this great big single
cylinder diesel engine out on the sidewalk and one of the mounting
feet is broken off - big chunk of cast iron with the mounting bolt
hole in it. The guy's got it all "vee ed out" and propped up right
where it broke off. and he's welding it back on using regular old,
6011, mild steel welding rod.

Now, you can ask any welder and he'll tell you that you, "can't weld
cast iron with regular steel rods", but this guy is doing it :-) A few
days go buy and every day I can see he has welded a little more and
finally one day I go by and there is no big engine on the sidewalk. So
I ask the guy how it went and he, vary nonchalantly tells me he got it
finished and they took it back to the rice mill to install it. I asked
him whether he though it would hold and he told me that "none of the
other ones I've done have broken".

Now just like not vacuuming down an AC for a long time you can't weld
cast iron with mild steel rods...... but they do :-)
--
Cheers,
Bruce

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· December 22nd 12 05:59 PM

Fixed my Adlor-Barbour Refrigerator.
 
"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:21:18 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:09:13 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:41:55 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

But, just recently over the past month or so it has been acting up. It
starts
to compress and then acts like it is overloaded and the compressor runs
faster
and gets louder and the fan runs faster but the compression pretty much
ceases
to compress as evidenced by the voltage on the volt meter jumping up
about
a
volt.

===

How do you keep your batteries charged up?


Capt. Neal don't need no stinking electricity... he relies on his
sails.



Sorry, Bruce, but I rely on the same thing that produces the wind
for my sails - the sun. Unlike you, I don't plug into the grid. You
lubbers who like to go around yelling about mankind causing
global warming are, for the most part, hypocrites. Only those
living off the grid who practice what they preach are deserving
of my respect.


Yes, I tried that for a while.... the problem is that solar panels
produce very tiny amounts of electricity during periods of overcast
weather. I realize that your nautical experience is solely in the Keys
(where the sun shines every day) but if you were to venture out into
the world you would discover that your solar panels will not always
provide sufficient power to keep your batteries charged.


A concept you lubbers seem to have forgotten is this: if the sun
doesn't shine for an extended period of time one cuts back on
one's electrical usage to match the shortfall. One doesn't continue
with 'business as usual' thus depleting the storage contained in
the batteries.

The ONLY absolute requirement is an anchor light and even a
cloudy day will produce more electricity than a good anchor light
such as the one I mentioned elsewhere will not deplete the
battery bank. Even running lights are optional offshore. In an
emergency one can always use a back-up kerosene lamps.

--
Sir Gregory



Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· December 22nd 12 06:10 PM

Fixed my Adlor-Barbour Refrigerator.
 
"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:17:54 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:41:55 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

But, just recently over the past month or so it has been
acting up. It starts to compress and then acts like it is
overloaded and the compressor runs faster and gets
louder and the fan runs faster but the compression pretty
much ceases to compress as evidenced by the voltage
on the volt meter jumping up about a volt.

How do you keep your batteries charged up?


200 watts of photovoltaics charge the batteries (four deep
cycle/marine, Autocraft brand size 24)

Yup, until you get several days of rainy overcast weather.
(been there, done that)

No noisy wind generators for this sailor. I think they are rude,
crude and socially unacceptable. There are few things I hate
more than the asshole who anchors right upwind and runs one
of those noisy wind generators 24/7. What do *I* get out of it
other than bothersome noise? What I hate even more than
the rude asshole who runs a wind generator upwind is the much
bigger asshole who runs a diesel generator. The diesel generator
not only produces noise but health-harming fumes.


You must have experience with those portable generators that the
uneducated use. A properly installed diesel generator is nearly
totally silent and the water cooled exhaust absorbs nearly all the
noxious gases and as for noise? Why a proper installation is far more
quiet then your outboard. What is really abhorrent in an anchorage is
the silly buggers running about with outboards on their dinghys.


Those portables are totally obnoxious. Generally, one sees them
propped up and operating on the highest (and loudest) place on
deck. It's tantamount to the operator of the yacht (more like bumboat)
stand on deck and flipping off everybody in the anchorage. These
are NOT yachtsmen. They are assholes.

When they make a diesel generator burn as clean as a gasoline
generator then I won't complain. I cannot smell the exhaust fumes
for a modern gasoline generator. I can always smell the fumes from
a modern diesel generator. Unless and until the get serious about
pollution control on diesels this unfortunate situation will remain.

My dinghy is oar powered and 2.5 HP, four-stroke powered.
I only idle through the anchorage and the noise produced by that
little engine is about the same as the noise produced by the oars
unless it is opened up. I am not one of those rude people who
open it up in any anchorage because I don't have the typical
boat bum attitude that the entire world revolves around them.

--
Sir Gregory



Bruce[_3_] December 23rd 12 07:21 AM

Fixed my Adlor-Barbour Refrigerator.
 
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 12:59:05 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:21:18 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:09:13 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:41:55 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

But, just recently over the past month or so it has been acting up. It
starts
to compress and then acts like it is overloaded and the compressor runs
faster
and gets louder and the fan runs faster but the compression pretty much
ceases
to compress as evidenced by the voltage on the volt meter jumping up
about
a
volt.

===

How do you keep your batteries charged up?


Capt. Neal don't need no stinking electricity... he relies on his
sails.


Sorry, Bruce, but I rely on the same thing that produces the wind
for my sails - the sun. Unlike you, I don't plug into the grid. You
lubbers who like to go around yelling about mankind causing
global warming are, for the most part, hypocrites. Only those
living off the grid who practice what they preach are deserving
of my respect.


Yes, I tried that for a while.... the problem is that solar panels
produce very tiny amounts of electricity during periods of overcast
weather. I realize that your nautical experience is solely in the Keys
(where the sun shines every day) but if you were to venture out into
the world you would discover that your solar panels will not always
provide sufficient power to keep your batteries charged.


A concept you lubbers seem to have forgotten is this: if the sun
doesn't shine for an extended period of time one cuts back on
one's electrical usage to match the shortfall. One doesn't continue
with 'business as usual' thus depleting the storage contained in
the batteries.


So the Great Capt. Wilbur drinks warm beer on rainy days.....

If you are going to drink warm beer on rainy days why not just drink
it warm all the time. Sure save on fridge repairs.

There must be some English chaps here that can explain to Willie-boy
why warm beer is better, more taste, etc.

Unfortunately Willie-boy being a stay at home, arm chair sailor, lacks
the experiences others gain by cruising and thus doesn't understand
about warm beer, hot sake, palm toddy and all the other exotic
beverages one encounters in foreign places.
--
Cheers,
Bruce

Bruce[_3_] December 23rd 12 07:32 AM

Fixed my Adlor-Barbour Refrigerator.
 
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:10:16 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:17:54 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:41:55 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

But, just recently over the past month or so it has been
acting up. It starts to compress and then acts like it is
overloaded and the compressor runs faster and gets
louder and the fan runs faster but the compression pretty
much ceases to compress as evidenced by the voltage
on the volt meter jumping up about a volt.

How do you keep your batteries charged up?

200 watts of photovoltaics charge the batteries (four deep
cycle/marine, Autocraft brand size 24)

Yup, until you get several days of rainy overcast weather.
(been there, done that)

No noisy wind generators for this sailor. I think they are rude,
crude and socially unacceptable. There are few things I hate
more than the asshole who anchors right upwind and runs one
of those noisy wind generators 24/7. What do *I* get out of it
other than bothersome noise? What I hate even more than
the rude asshole who runs a wind generator upwind is the much
bigger asshole who runs a diesel generator. The diesel generator
not only produces noise but health-harming fumes.


You must have experience with those portable generators that the
uneducated use. A properly installed diesel generator is nearly
totally silent and the water cooled exhaust absorbs nearly all the
noxious gases and as for noise? Why a proper installation is far more
quiet then your outboard. What is really abhorrent in an anchorage is
the silly buggers running about with outboards on their dinghys.


Those portables are totally obnoxious. Generally, one sees them
propped up and operating on the highest (and loudest) place on
deck. It's tantamount to the operator of the yacht (more like bumboat)
stand on deck and flipping off everybody in the anchorage. These
are NOT yachtsmen. They are assholes.

When they make a diesel generator burn as clean as a gasoline
generator then I won't complain. I cannot smell the exhaust fumes
for a modern gasoline generator.

While you can't smell them they are still there. Pipe the exhaust into
the cabin and take a nap there.

Sort of like the deodorized butane that they used as propellant in bug
spray cans. Didn't smell but sure burned well.

I can always smell the fumes from
a modern diesel generator. Unless and until the get serious about
pollution control on diesels this unfortunate situation will remain.

They do build diesel engines that are almost as clean as an automobile
engines. The problem is that they cost considerable more than a
mechanically injected engine and doubtful you can sell them as
auxiliary generators. they are also generally not repairable by
backyard mechanics.

My dinghy is oar powered and 2.5 HP, four-stroke powered.
I only idle through the anchorage and the noise produced by that
little engine is about the same as the noise produced by the oars
unless it is opened up. I am not one of those rude people who
open it up in any anchorage because I don't have the typical
boat bum attitude that the entire world revolves around them.


You idle through the anchorage? You don't row or have a little
spritsail on the dinghy?

And you call yourself a yachtsman?

Only polluting a little is like the girl telling that she is only a
little pregnant.
--
Cheers,
Bruce


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