On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:14:27 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Justin C" wrote in message
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In article , Jessica B wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:48:35 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I'm guessing that on a two or three year cruise it might be nice to
processionally have clean clothes.

But that's just me. YMMV?


Doesn't the boat ever stop somewhere? Seems like all you have to do is
pull in somewhere and deal with it.

What happens in the middle of the ocean? You're going to do laundry in
your bring-along system? Seems at odds with sailing some how.

I've heard of two suggestions... actually, three.

1. A big bucket into which you put water, detergent and the offending
items (they're likely to be offending the nose of others after a while,
I'm sure). You then 'tread' them for a while, like the French used to
with grapes.

A seamanlike arrangement.

Also when camping. Put the clothes in a 5 gal bucket, add water, some
detergent, and stomp for a while. Works fine. It's not like I'd be
bringing chiffon dress or something (well maybe for a shore
excursion).


2. All that needs washing ends up in the shower stall. Whoever takes a
shower 'treads' the clothes as they do so. I am not certain of the
efficacy of this method.

Shower stall? C'mon. Real sailboats don't waste space and water with a
shower stall. That's way too lubberly to even consider.

Can't you just use one of those solar showers? I think they make 5 gal
sizes, and that's plenty of water, even for a shampoo. Well, I guess
the salt water wouldn't be good for my hair... it would turn it dull
and I wouldn't want that.

3. Small mesh netting (small enough that your smalls don't go through
the holes) from which you make a bag, into which you put your laundry.
The neting bag is then towed behind the boat for a while.

That should work and I've heard of that method, too.

That sounds good, but wouldn't it be better to do the stomp method,
then use that to rinse? It seems like the clothes could use a quick
dip in fresh water to keep them soft.

The very best way, however, when cruising is to just say no to clothes. If
you don't wear them then they don't get soiled. But, you still have to wash
sheets, towels, etc.

Well, minimal clothes... lol

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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Also when camping. Put the clothes in a 5 gal bucket, add water, some
detergent, and stomp for a while. Works fine. It's not like I'd be
bringing chiffon dress or something (well maybe for a shore
excursion).

Or evening daquairis at the raw bar.

And you get nice clean feet that way, too. I hand wash all my bike shorts
and jerseys after each ride in a little plastic bucket with water I get from
a nearby RPZ but I use my hands and fists to smush them around in the
water/detergent. Then I hang them to dry in the van where it gets very hot
during the day. They dry just fine.


Can't you just use one of those solar showers? I think they make 5 gal
sizes, and that's plenty of water, even for a shampoo. Well, I guess
the salt water wouldn't be good for my hair... it would turn it dull
and I wouldn't want that.

Salt water is great for washing your hair. It won't make it dull if you
rinse it afterwards with fresh water to get the salt residue off. That's why
I like short hair on cruising women. Uses less fresh water to keep the hair
clean. No blow driers allowed aboard. They use too much power.

I still have a couple of those solar shower things. Haven't used them in
years. It's easier and more efficient to just heat some water on the stove
and do a wash-cloth bath.


That sounds good, but wouldn't it be better to do the stomp method,
then use that to rinse? It seems like the clothes could use a quick
dip in fresh water to keep them soft.

And to keep the dry. If you leave salt in the clothes they attract moisture
from the air and always feel clammy especially at night.


The very best way, however, when cruising is to just say no to clothes. If
you don't wear them then they don't get soiled. But, you still have to
wash
sheets, towels, etc.

Well, minimal clothes... lol

I would encourage that a little left the the imagination is better And, a
healthy tan is a good thing. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard

On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:15:04 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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Also when camping. Put the clothes in a 5 gal bucket, add water, some
detergent, and stomp for a while. Works fine. It's not like I'd be
bringing chiffon dress or something (well maybe for a shore
excursion).

Or evening daquairis at the raw bar.

Raw bar? Like oysters?

And you get nice clean feet that way, too. I hand wash all my bike shorts
and jerseys after each ride in a little plastic bucket with water I get from
a nearby RPZ but I use my hands and fists to smush them around in the
water/detergent. Then I hang them to dry in the van where it gets very hot
during the day. They dry just fine.


Can't you just use one of those solar showers? I think they make 5 gal
sizes, and that's plenty of water, even for a shampoo. Well, I guess
the salt water wouldn't be good for my hair... it would turn it dull
and I wouldn't want that.

Salt water is great for washing your hair. It won't make it dull if you
rinse it afterwards with fresh water to get the salt residue off. That's why
I like short hair on cruising women. Uses less fresh water to keep the hair
clean. No blow driers allowed aboard. They use too much power.

Ok.. well, I was concerned about conserving water... you must have to
either carry it to the boat or pull in somewhere, so I can imagine it
would be at a premium. But... regular soap doesn't work really well in
salt water, and I'm not sure I'd use detergent.

With my hair, I definitely use a blow dryer, otherwise it would only
take a week and a half to dry it... lol But with short hair it's not
needed.

I still have a couple of those solar shower things. Haven't used them in
years. It's easier and more efficient to just heat some water on the stove
and do a wash-cloth bath.


That sounds good, but wouldn't it be better to do the stomp method,
then use that to rinse? It seems like the clothes could use a quick
dip in fresh water to keep them soft.

And to keep the dry. If you leave salt in the clothes they attract moisture
from the air and always feel clammy especially at night.

Hmm... ok, didn't know that really.

The very best way, however, when cruising is to just say no to clothes. If
you don't wear them then they don't get soiled. But, you still have to
wash
sheets, towels, etc.

Well, minimal clothes... lol

I would encourage that a little left the the imagination is better And, a
healthy tan is a good thing. LOL!

Yeah, I'm always paranoid about getting burned. I tend to blister and
get splotchy.


Wilbur Hubbard

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:15:04 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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Also when camping. Put the clothes in a 5 gal bucket, add water, some
detergent, and stomp for a while. Works fine. It's not like I'd be
bringing chiffon dress or something (well maybe for a shore
excursion).

Or evening daquairis at the raw bar.

Raw bar? Like oysters?

Right, but, around here, they have all kinds of good un-raw seafood, too. I
don't do raw oysters. Yuck!

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Ok.. well, I was concerned about conserving water... you must have to
either carry it to the boat or pull in somewhere, so I can imagine it
would be at a premium. But... regular soap doesn't work really well in
salt water, and I'm not sure I'd use detergent.

Yes, I have to jug it all out in the dinghy. That's why I conserve it as
much as I can.

Many shampoos are just perfumed detergent, I think. I know some body washes
are detergent for sure. I like Old Spice High Endurance body wash and the
ingredients list various forms of sodium sulfate. I thing that's another
word for detergent. I'm sure it is because it also foams up in salt water.
Bar soap won't do anything in salt water. It's like rubbing a bar of wax.
LOL!



With my hair, I definitely use a blow dryer, otherwise it would only
take a week and a half to dry it... lol But with short hair it's not
needed.

Sounds like you have nice, thick hair. It looks sort of auburn. It that the
natural color. It would undoubtedly look very sexy and sassy short.


snippage

Yeah, I'm always paranoid about getting burned. I tend to blister and
get splotchy.


You just need somebody with a nice touch to apply lots of SPF40 where you
can't reach. But, and this is funny, I've noticed women seem to be
double-jointed in their arms. Women seem to be able to twist their arms at
really crooked angles and they can turn their hands right around flat so
they can reach even up between their shoulder blades. Most men can't seem to
reach that spot.


Wilbur Hubbard

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:37:05 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:15:04 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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Also when camping. Put the clothes in a 5 gal bucket, add water, some
detergent, and stomp for a while. Works fine. It's not like I'd be
bringing chiffon dress or something (well maybe for a shore
excursion).

Or evening daquairis at the raw bar.

Raw bar? Like oysters?

Right, but, around here, they have all kinds of good un-raw seafood, too. I
don't do raw oysters. Yuck!

I've had them, but I think you have to be really careful about that.
I'm not a huge sushi fan anyway. Cooked eel is ok, which creeps out my
friends, but heck it's cooked!

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Ok.. well, I was concerned about conserving water... you must have to
either carry it to the boat or pull in somewhere, so I can imagine it
would be at a premium. But... regular soap doesn't work really well in
salt water, and I'm not sure I'd use detergent.

Yes, I have to jug it all out in the dinghy. That's why I conserve it as
much as I can.

I bet.. I guess one way or another, you have to get water to the boat.
Can't you drive it into the shore somewhere and fill up?

Many shampoos are just perfumed detergent, I think. I know some body washes
are detergent for sure. I like Old Spice High Endurance body wash and the
ingredients list various forms of sodium sulfate. I thing that's another
word for detergent. I'm sure it is because it also foams up in salt water.
Bar soap won't do anything in salt water. It's like rubbing a bar of wax.
LOL!

I use this... doubt it would work in salt water, but it has a very low
toxic chemical issue.

http://evolvingwellness.com/posts/54...treat-shampoo/



With my hair, I definitely use a blow dryer, otherwise it would only
take a week and a half to dry it... lol But with short hair it's not
needed.

Sounds like you have nice, thick hair. It looks sort of auburn. It that the
natural color. It would undoubtedly look very sexy and sassy short.

I'd say it's moderately thick. Definitely not thin. When I was a kid
my brother called me bristle head (I had a crew cut because I got head
lice).

It's really a very dark brown.. almost black. Auburn is a bit too
light, but it's in the neighborhood. Of course, it depends on the
auburn..

snippage

Yeah, I'm always paranoid about getting burned. I tend to blister and
get splotchy.


You just need somebody with a nice touch to apply lots of SPF40 where you
can't reach. But, and this is funny, I've noticed women seem to be
double-jointed in their arms. Women seem to be able to twist their arms at
really crooked angles and they can turn their hands right around flat so
they can reach even up between their shoulder blades. Most men can't seem to
reach that spot.

Yes! Like under the swimsuit straps or just under my arms below the
armpit or on my trapeziums. I always miss something, then fall asleep,
then it's red and painful.

Hey how do you think we get the bra off without taking off our top?
It's magic! :-)

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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I've had them (raw oysters), but I think you have to be really careful
about that. I'm not a huge sushi fan anyway. Cooked eel is ok, which
creeps out my friends, but heck it's cooked!

I would guess eel tastes like fish. Sounds better than calamari which is
tentacle rings. Seems like that would be tough and bouncy to eat - sort
of like conch.

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I bet.. I guess one way or another, you have to get water to the boat.
Can't you drive it into the shore somewhere and fill up?

I could go to the gas dock at the marina but that's too much trouble and
the boat can get scraped up. I hardly ever need fuel as my little motor
burns so little and I don't motor much anyway. Jugging it out is really
the easier option.

snip

I use this... doubt it would work in salt water, but it has a very low
toxic chemical issue.

http://evolvingwellness.com/posts/54...treat-shampoo/

It looks like it's got every herbal oil in the book in it. I don't see any
detergents listed so it probably wouldn't do so well in salt water.

snip


I'd say it's moderately thick. Definitely not thin. When I was a kid
my brother called me bristle head (I had a crew cut because I got head
lice).

Eewwww!

snip

Yes! Like under the swimsuit straps or just under my arms below the
armpit or on my trapeziums. I always miss something, then fall asleep,
then it's red and painful.

Hey how do you think we get the bra off without taking off our top?
It's magic! :-)

That bra removal trick does, indeed, take rubber band type arms to go
in and out of the shirt sleeves without stretching them all over the
place. Can girls take their panties off without removing their shorts
or jeans? I've never seen that done. I guess the legs don't bend like
pretzels like the arms do. LOL!

Wilbur Hubbard

On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:54:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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I've had them (raw oysters), but I think you have to be really careful
about that. I'm not a huge sushi fan anyway. Cooked eel is ok, which
creeps out my friends, but heck it's cooked!

I would guess eel tastes like fish. Sounds better than calamari which is
tentacle rings. Seems like that would be tough and bouncy to eat - sort
of like conch.

Calamari is THE Cali dish I think. You can get it cooked all sorts of
ways. I wouldn't eat it raw... as you say, too tough.

snip

I bet.. I guess one way or another, you have to get water to the boat.
Can't you drive it into the shore somewhere and fill up?

I could go to the gas dock at the marina but that's too much trouble and
the boat can get scraped up. I hardly ever need fuel as my little motor
burns so little and I don't motor much anyway. Jugging it out is really
the easier option.
snip

I use this... doubt it would work in salt water, but it has a very low
toxic chemical issue.

http://evolvingwellness.com/posts/54...treat-shampoo/

It looks like it's got every herbal oil in the book in it. I don't see any
detergents listed so it probably wouldn't do so well in salt water.

Yeah... well, I guess I would be a water waster. Probably have to do
extra duty as the galley slave. lol

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I'd say it's moderately thick. Definitely not thin. When I was a kid
my brother called me bristle head (I had a crew cut because I got head
lice).

Eewwww!

Kids are filthy little buggers. Fortunately, my niece is well
beyond that stage at this point, and she's the only one I associate
with (technically, I have others in Germany). She's here with her mom
with dad over there.

snip

Yes! Like under the swimsuit straps or just under my arms below the
armpit or on my trapeziums. I always miss something, then fall asleep,
then it's red and painful.

Hey how do you think we get the bra off without taking off our top?
It's magic! :-)

That bra removal trick does, indeed, take rubber band type arms to go
in and out of the shirt sleeves without stretching them all over the
place. Can girls take their panties off without removing their shorts
or jeans? I've never seen that done. I guess the legs don't bend like
pretzels like the arms do. LOL!

I'll never tell! The key is waking up with them with the correct side
out in the morning (college fun). Probably TMI.

In article , Jessica B wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:14:27 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

The very best way, however, when cruising is to just say no to clothes. If
you don't wear them then they don't get soiled. But, you still have to wash
sheets, towels, etc.

Well, minimal clothes... lol

It might be OK for the tropics...

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:02:26 +0000, Justin C
wrote:

In article , Jessica B wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:14:27 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

The very best way, however, when cruising is to just say no to clothes. If
you don't wear them then they don't get soiled. But, you still have to wash
sheets, towels, etc.

Well, minimal clothes... lol

It might be OK for the tropics...

Justin.

Would you be planning on wearing a tux in the tropics? lol

On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 16:17:36 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:02:26 +0000, Justin C
wrote:

In article , Jessica B wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:14:27 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

The very best way, however, when cruising is to just say no to clothes. If
you don't wear them then they don't get soiled. But, you still have to wash
sheets, towels, etc.

Well, minimal clothes... lol

It might be OK for the tropics...

Justin.

Would you be planning on wearing a tux in the tropics? lol


Perhaps not, but you would be amazed how much better you are treated
by the various agencies you have to visit to clear your boat in or out
of foreign counties if you are wearing clean clothes that match the
normal attire worn in that country.

or perhaps looking at it from the other direction, it is amazing how
much better I get treated in my clean clothes then some dirty,
unshaven, stinking bloke who hasn't bathed, shaved or brushed his
teeth in the last month gets.
Cheers,

Bruce