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Justin C[_34_] August 8th 10 06:47 PM

Boat identification
 
There's an ad that often appears in Cruising World for Neil Pryde Sails,
the boat is an old gaffer, the mast is a long way forward and the main
is very large compared with the jib. On the main is a silhouette of a
witch riding a broomstick. Can anyone tell me what this boat design is?
I've checked the Neil Pryde web-site
URL:http://www.neilprydesails.com, but can't find the image used
there, and therefore no details of the boat.

Justin.

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Justin C, by the sea.

Wayne.B August 9th 10 02:42 AM

Boat identification
 
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 18:47:12 +0100, Justin C
wrote:

There's an ad that often appears in Cruising World for Neil Pryde Sails,
the boat is an old gaffer, the mast is a long way forward and the main
is very large compared with the jib. On the main is a silhouette of a
witch riding a broomstick. Can anyone tell me what this boat design is?
I've checked the Neil Pryde web-site
URL:http://www.neilprydesails.com, but can't find the image used
there, and therefore no details of the boat.



Possibly this one?:

http://www.sec.state.ma.us/mhc/mhcpd...tboatWitch.pdf

Justin C[_34_] August 9th 10 09:06 PM

Boat identification
 
In article , Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 18:47:12 +0100, Justin C
wrote:

There's an ad that often appears in Cruising World for Neil Pryde Sails,
the boat is an old gaffer, the mast is a long way forward and the main
is very large compared with the jib. On the main is a silhouette of a
witch riding a broomstick. Can anyone tell me what this boat design is?
I've checked the Neil Pryde web-site
URL:http://www.neilprydesails.com, but can't find the image used
there, and therefore no details of the boat.



Possibly this one?:
http://www.sec.state.ma.us/mhc/mhcpd...tboatWitch.pdf


I can't tell, there is no photo! The description in the document says
that she's 22'4", the one in the photo would be, I'd say, over 34'.

Thank you for looking.

Justin.

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Justin C, by the sea.

Wayne.B August 9th 10 10:31 PM

Boat identification
 
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 21:06:58 +0100, Justin C
wrote:

Possibly this one?:
http://www.sec.state.ma.us/mhc/mhcpd...tboatWitch.pdf


I can't tell, there is no photo! The description in the document says
that she's 22'4", the one in the photo would be, I'd say, over 34'.


Probably not it then. You are definitely talking about a gaff rigged
catboat however based on your description, and there are a lot of them
with "witch" in the name such as Water Witch, Sea Witch, etc. I was
hoping to turn up a one design class of catboats with Witch in the
name but no luck there.

A search on the USCG database for "witch" turns up 246 hits on
documented vessels. There are quite a few in the 34 ft range:

http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/Coas...selByName.html


Justin C[_34_] August 9th 10 11:54 PM

Boat identification
 
In article , Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 21:06:58 +0100, Justin C
wrote:

Possibly this one?:
http://www.sec.state.ma.us/mhc/mhcpd...tboatWitch.pdf


I can't tell, there is no photo! The description in the document says
that she's 22'4", the one in the photo would be, I'd say, over 34'.


Probably not it then. You are definitely talking about a gaff rigged
catboat however based on your description, and there are a lot of them
with "witch" in the name such as Water Witch, Sea Witch, etc. I was
hoping to turn up a one design class of catboats with Witch in the
name but no luck there.

A search on the USCG database for "witch" turns up 246 hits on
documented vessels. There are quite a few in the 34 ft range:

http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/Coas...selByName.html


Let me try a better, or even a more detailed description... it's a bit
of a PITA that Neil Pryde Sails is plastered across part of the image,
but here goes.

Gaffer, wooded mast, gaff and boom. Possibly has a stays'l boom. White
hull and sides to cabin roof, top of cabin is (possibly) cream (I'm
colour blind). Boom gallows at aft end of cockpit. Wheel steered but the
wheel is mounted at the back of the cockpit so steering is from one side
and in front. Mast is forward of the cabin top on the flat fore-deck.
Headsail is on a bowsprit. Boat may be wooded, decks are teak. Cabin top
sides and front are straight up/down, not angled. Looks like 4" to 5"
bulwarks, teak capped. Three round ports on cabin top sides, one for'd,
the other two grouped central to aft, also a round port (probably two
but the logo hides it) on the forward facing part of the cabin top.

You know, I'm just going to have to write to the company and ask. It
does look very pretty though.

I can see why people would think I'm describing a catboat, but I'm not
convinced that it is, I don't think the mast is forward enough, not
compared with those I've seen before.


Justin.

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Justin C, by the sea.

Wayne.B August 10th 10 01:33 AM

Boat identification
 
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:18:41 -0400, wrote:

Could very well be a Friendship Sloop. They have been built in many
sizes from quite small to quite large in wood or fiberglass. Lots of
homebuilts, too.

http://www.hobbyworldinc.com/woodship151.html

Good link. I'm really tempted to order one of those kits.


Justin C[_34_] August 11th 10 08:02 PM

Boat identification
 
In article , wrote:
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 23:54:51 +0100, Justin C
wrote:

In article , Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 21:06:58 +0100, Justin C
wrote:

Possibly this one?:
http://www.sec.state.ma.us/mhc/mhcpd...tboatWitch.pdf

I can't tell, there is no photo! The description in the document says
that she's 22'4", the one in the photo would be, I'd say, over 34'.

Probably not it then. You are definitely talking about a gaff rigged
catboat however based on your description, and there are a lot of them
with "witch" in the name such as Water Witch, Sea Witch, etc. I was
hoping to turn up a one design class of catboats with Witch in the
name but no luck there.

A search on the USCG database for "witch" turns up 246 hits on
documented vessels. There are quite a few in the 34 ft range:

http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/Coas...selByName.html


Let me try a better, or even a more detailed description... it's a bit
of a PITA that Neil Pryde Sails is plastered across part of the image,
but here goes.

Gaffer, wooded mast, gaff and boom. Possibly has a stays'l boom. White
hull and sides to cabin roof, top of cabin is (possibly) cream (I'm
colour blind). Boom gallows at aft end of cockpit. Wheel steered but the
wheel is mounted at the back of the cockpit so steering is from one side
and in front. Mast is forward of the cabin top on the flat fore-deck.
Headsail is on a bowsprit. Boat may be wooded, decks are teak. Cabin top
sides and front are straight up/down, not angled. Looks like 4" to 5"
bulwarks, teak capped. Three round ports on cabin top sides, one for'd,
the other two grouped central to aft, also a round port (probably two
but the logo hides it) on the forward facing part of the cabin top.

You know, I'm just going to have to write to the company and ask. It
does look very pretty though.

I can see why people would think I'm describing a catboat, but I'm not
convinced that it is, I don't think the mast is forward enough, not
compared with those I've seen before.


Justin.


Could very well be a Friendship Sloop. They have been built in many
sizes from quite small to quite large in wood or fiberglass. Lots of
homebuilts, too.

http://www.hobbyworldinc.com/woodship151.html


Possible, they seem to be quite varied in their rigs from the pictures
I'm seeing; gaffs, bermudan sloops, cutters - various foresail
arrangements. I'll Google a bit more.

Justin.

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Justin C, by the sea.


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