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I looked at the other compelling videos JoeS Butcher posted on
youtoub. The one that really gave me a laugh was the one Joe titled, GIANT MONSTER WAVES ! http://www.youtube.com/user/JoeSButc.../1/EomTf3hczco Dear joe if those are an example what you call giant or monster waves please stay in port with Bruce, Willbur et al. From where I come from those conditions are considered, snotty and uncomfortable but certainly not M O N S T E R........ But being from the oil patch i guess its all relative. I think its time you took a god look around and see what other people are doing........ I think you might just learn somthing. Good luck, Bob |
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"Bob" wrote in message
... I looked at the other compelling videos JoeS Butcher posted on youtoub. The one that really gave me a laugh was the one Joe titled, GIANT MONSTER WAVES ! http://www.youtube.com/user/JoeSButc.../1/EomTf3hczco Bwahahahahhahahahahh! I thought that one was a riot, too. It's as if he were being facetious or something but he was dead serious. He clearly has never experienced a real 25 foot sea on a small sailing yacht. I have, and they are NOTHING like the 'chop' in that video. I've sailed in the Gulf Steam many a time during small craft advisories during cold front passages just to see what it was all about. I've sailed such big seas out there that close-by, large bulk carriers were completely lost from view behind 25-30 foot seas which were heaped up because of the north set of the Stream. No picnic but doable. Certainly nothing to abandon ship about. Dear joe if those are an example what you call giant or monster waves please stay in port with Bruce, Willbur et al. Hey, that's uncalled for comparing Joe's fraidy-cat ineptitude with my sailing skills. I've sailed more ocean miles than Joe and have taken little ole fifteen foot, cold front generated seas in stride. No one ever saw me claiming 10-15 footers were 25-footers. No one ever heard a call from me on the VHF crying like a baby and requesting a helicopter rescue. From where I come from those conditions are considered, snotty and uncomfortable but certainly not M O N S T E R........ But being from the oil patch i guess its all relative. I think its time you took a god look around and see what other people are doing........ I think you might just learn somthing. Good luck, Bob Joe needs to get his eyes checked and he needs to understand that viewing a 10-15 foot sea from his pilot house when the bow is facing the trough gives a very misleading estimate of wave height. The senses end up giving one a false horizontal where the size of the wave becomes exaggerated by a factor of two. But, every actual seaman knows this. This is why I say that Joe is no seaman. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Hey, that's uncalled for comparing Joe's fraidy-cat ineptitude with my sailing skills. Wilbur Hubbard My greatest apologies my able sailor. I spoke with out due consideration. Bob |
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 09:32:21 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote: I looked at the other compelling videos JoeS Butcher posted on youtoub. The one that really gave me a laugh was the one Joe titled, GIANT MONSTER WAVES ! http://www.youtube.com/user/JoeSButc.../1/EomTf3hczco Dear joe if those are an example what you call giant or monster waves please stay in port with Bruce, Willbur et al. From where I come from those conditions are considered, snotty and uncomfortable but certainly not M O N S T E R........ But being from the oil patch i guess its all relative. I think its time you took a god look around and see what other people are doing........ I think you might just learn somthing. Good luck, Bob And here I thought your off shore rigs pulled off the hole for bad weather. At least the loss of life on that rig that capsized off China a few years ago was blamed, in oil patch publications, on the Operator not pulling off. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Jan 3, 11:53*am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Bob" wrote in message ... I looked at the other compelling videos JoeS Butcher posted on youtoub. The one that really gave me a laugh was the one Joe titled, *GIANT MONSTER WAVES ! http://www.youtube.com/user/JoeSButc.../1/EomTf3hczco Bwahahahahhahahahahh! I thought that one was a riot, too. It's as if he were being facetious or something but he was dead serious. He clearly has never experienced a real 25 foot sea on a small sailing yacht. I have, and they are NOTHING like the 'chop' in that video. You have not sailed anywhere but a back woods mangrove swamp at best. Here is 11 ft seas Nellie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC2AGQZtsvM The title "Giant Monster Waves" was used to attract non sailors like you and bOb who need to live vicariously thru real sailors. Much like you now worship and follow little Jessica. I know it's hard for lubbers like you and your puppets to understand, take a look at this vid, running 30 ft but don't look like it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_8hOai9hGQ Joe Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Jan 4, 8:55*am, wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 06:49:10 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote: On Jan 3, 11:53*am, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message .... I looked at the other compelling videos JoeS Butcher posted on youtoub. The one that really gave me a laugh was the one Joe titled, *GIANT MONSTER WAVES ! http://www.youtube.com/user/JoeSButc.../1/EomTf3hczco Bwahahahahhahahahahh! I thought that one was a riot, too. It's as if he were being facetious or something but he was dead serious. He clearly has never experienced a real 25 foot sea on a small sailing yacht. I have, and they are NOTHING like the 'chop' in that video. You have not sailed anywhere but a back woods mangrove swamp at best. Here is 11 ft seas Nellie:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC2AGQZtsvM Wouldn't 11 foot seas be somewhat higher than the cabin top?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, We had 11 fters for 4-5 days out of the NE. Again it's hard to determine wave height from video's but thats what they were. They were spaced a good 100 ft, it's not like they were splashing over the wheelhouse, more like a slow rise and fall, a nice ride infact. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message
... On Jan 4, 8:55 am, wrote: On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 06:49:10 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote: On Jan 3, 11:53 am, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message ... I looked at the other compelling videos JoeS Butcher posted on youtoub. The one that really gave me a laugh was the one Joe titled, GIANT MONSTER WAVES ! http://www.youtube.com/user/JoeSButc.../1/EomTf3hczco Bwahahahahhahahahahh! I thought that one was a riot, too. It's as if he were being facetious or something but he was dead serious. He clearly has never experienced a real 25 foot sea on a small sailing yacht. I have, and they are NOTHING like the 'chop' in that video. You have not sailed anywhere but a back woods mangrove swamp at best. Here is 11 ft seas Nellie:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC2AGQZtsvM Wouldn't 11 foot seas be somewhat higher than the cabin top?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, We had 11 fters for 4-5 days out of the NE. Again it's hard to determine wave height from video's but thats what they were. They were spaced a good 100 ft, it's not like they were splashing over the wheelhouse, more like a slow rise and fall, a nice ride infact. Joe Joe, I think I understand your plight in that you constantly overestimate wave size. It's because all your adult life you've been telling Terry this: ----------------------- is six inches. Bwahahhahahahahahhahaha. Wilbur Hubbard |
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In article s.com,
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: Yes, We had 11 fters for 4-5 days out of the NE. Again it's hard to determine wave height from video's but thats what they were. They were spaced a good 100 ft, it's not like they were splashing over the wheelhouse, more like a slow rise and fall, a nice ride infact. Joe Joe, I think I understand your plight in that you constantly overestimate wave size. It's because all your adult life you've been telling Terry this: ----------------------- is six inches. Bwahahhahahahahahhahaha. Wilbur Hubbard Those aren't waves, more like just a bit of "chop"... If you want to see REAL Waves, come on up to the North Pacific, during Crab Season, in the winter.... them is REAL WAVES... they Start at 20 ft and go on up to 40 - 60 Ft, and start with 50 Kt breezes and on up to 120 Kt Gales.... You know your in one when the Snow is blowing UP, and the Engine Governor is trying to keep up with the Prop, coming out of the water, as each wave passes.... You fair weather mariners are a hoot to read...... -- Bruce in alaska add path after fast to reply |
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On Jan 5, 3:04*pm, Bruce in alaska wrote:
In article s.com, *"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: Yes, *We had 11 fters for 4-5 days out of the NE. Again it's hard to determine wave height from video's but thats what they were. They were spaced a good 100 ft, it's not like they were splashing over the wheelhouse, more like a slow rise and fall, a nice ride infact. Joe Joe, I think I understand your plight in that you constantly overestimate wave size. It's because all your adult life you've been telling Terry this: ----------------------- is six inches. Bwahahhahahahahahhahaha. Wilbur Hubbard Those aren't waves, more like just a bit of "chop"... If you want to see REAL Waves, come on up to the North Pacific, during Crab Season, in the winter.... them is REAL WAVES... they Start at 20 ft and go on up to 40 - 60 Ft, and start with 50 Kt breezes and on up to 120 Kt Gales.... You know your in one when the Snow is blowing UP, and the Engine Governor is trying to keep up with the Prop, coming out of the water, as each wave passes.... *You fair weather mariners are a hoot to read...... -- Bruce in alaska add path after fast to reply- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey Bruce, My brother spent alot of time out of Dutch harbor on the Sherman WHEC-720. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKK5gerz9OA they would head that way every crab season. We are both pretty good at measuring waves. Lots of hammering ice, and lousy weather..You know there are better places to sail right? We all know the only wave Nilbur ever saw was splashing around in a crusty cedar bucket. Do you have any video of a boat you were on, or do you just watch the Deadlest Catch like bOb and pretend ? ;0) Joe |
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On Jan 5, 4:24*pm, Joe wrote:
On Jan 5, 3:04*pm, Bruce in alaska wrote: In article s.com, *"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: Yes, *We had 11 fters for 4-5 days out of the NE. Again it's hard to determine wave height from video's but thats what they were. They were spaced a good 100 ft, it's not like they were splashing over the wheelhouse, more like a slow rise and fall, a nice ride infact. Joe Joe, I think I understand your plight in that you constantly overestimate wave size. It's because all your adult life you've been telling Terry this: ----------------------- is six inches. Bwahahhahahahahahhahaha. Wilbur Hubbard Those aren't waves, more like just a bit of "chop"... If you want to see REAL Waves, come on up to the North Pacific, during Crab Season, in the winter.... them is REAL WAVES... they Start at 20 ft and go on up to 40 - 60 Ft, and start with 50 Kt breezes and on up to 120 Kt Gales.... You know your in one when the Snow is blowing UP, and the Engine Governor is trying to keep up with the Prop, coming out of the water, as each wave passes.... *You fair weather mariners are a hoot to read...... -- Bruce in alaska add path after fast to reply- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey Bruce, *My brother spent alot of time out of Dutch harbor on the Sherman WHEC-720.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKK5gerz9OAthey would head that way every crab season. We are both pretty good at measuring waves. Lots of hammering ice, and lousy weather..You know there are better places to sail right? We all know the only wave Nilbur ever saw was splashing around in a crusty cedar bucket. Do you have any video of a boat you were on, or do you just watch the Deadlest Catch like bOb and pretend ? ;0) Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - JOE: SO WHAT YOURE SAYING JOE IS U NEVER BEEN THERE OR SEEN THAT KINDA WEATHER................ END OF YOUR STORY. Bob PS What the GOMcalls a huricane the PNW/GOA calls monday -tuesday- wednesday....... |
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In article
, Joe wrote: Hey Bruce, My brother spent alot of time out of Dutch harbor on the Sherman WHEC-720. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKK5gerz9OA they would head that way every crab season. We are both pretty good at measuring waves. Lots of hammering ice, and lousy weather..You know there are better places to sail right? We all know the only wave Nilbur ever saw was splashing around in a crusty cedar bucket. Do you have any video of a boat you were on, or do you just watch the Deadlest Catch like bOb and pretend ? ;0) Joe I am the last of the Alaska Cannery Radiomen... and I have been on my share of Crabbers, Draggers, and Shrimpers, (Before Video Cameras existed) during my 40+ years in the Biz. Now I am semi-reTired and have a nice gig being the Winterman at one of those canneries. I know many of the skippers, in the fleet, as well as having mutual Friends, and acquaintances, thru out the fishing community in the North Pacific. Once had a Ride from SandPoint to Squaw Harbor that took 2 days.... and I did a Shelikof Straight run from Port Bailey to Alitak that took 3 days... It is a bitch when you have to jog between the crests just to maintain steerage, in 140 ft Steel Crabber, or Coastal Freighter... -- Bruce in alaska add path after fast to reply |
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On Jan 6, 5:29*pm, Bruce in alaska wrote:
In article , *Joe wrote: Hey Bruce, *My brother spent alot of time out of Dutch harbor on the Sherman WHEC-720. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKK5gerz9OAthey would head that way every crab season. We are both pretty good at measuring waves. Lots of hammering ice, and lousy weather..You know there are better places to sail right? We all know the only wave Nilbur ever saw was splashing around in a crusty cedar bucket. Do you have any video of a boat you were on, or do you just watch the Deadlest Catch like bOb and pretend ? ;0) Joe I am the last of the Alaska Cannery Radiomen... and I have been on my share of Crabbers, Draggers, and Shrimpers, (Before Video Cameras existed) during my 40+ years in the Biz. Sounds cool. *Now I am semi-reTired and have a nice gig being the Winterman at one of those canneries. Sounds cold I know many of the skippers, in the fleet, as well as having mutual Friends, and acquaintances, thru out the fishing community in the North Pacific. Once had a Ride from SandPoint to Squaw Harbor that took 2 days.... and I did a Shelikof Straight run from Port Bailey to Alitak that took 3 days... That north edge of the Shelikof Strait looks like a nice area to sail coastal, lots to explore. Best I've done in the way of Alaska was to work on a supply boat named the Point Barrow. *It is a bitch when you have to jog between the crests just to maintain steerage, in 140 ft Steel Crabber, or Coastal Freighter... More fun is to do floaters off the crest with a 120 ft crewboat. Joe -- Bruce in alaska add path after fast to reply- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 06:49:10 -0800 (PST), Joe
wrote: I know it's hard for lubbers like you and your puppets to understand, take a look at this vid, running 30 ft but don't look like it. You can make anything look like anything if you are a good photographer. That is why there is money in the business. In the summer there is a scarcity of waves in the North Atlantic. Biggest on one crossing were said to be fifteen feet. From the bar, the one above the wheelhouse, they looked like nothing. There was no roll whatever, but you could feel the up and down and see the pitching. Casady |
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On Jan 4, 10:58*am, wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 08:29:16 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote: On Jan 4, 8:55 am, wrote: On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 06:49:10 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote: On Jan 3, 11:53 am, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message ... I looked at the other compelling videos JoeS Butcher posted on youtoub. The one that really gave me a laugh was the one Joe titled, GIANT MONSTER WAVES ! http://www.youtube.com/user/JoeSButc.../1/EomTf3hczco Bwahahahahhahahahahh! I thought that one was a riot, too. It's as if he were being facetious or something but he was dead serious. He clearly has never experienced a real 25 foot sea on a small sailing yacht. I have, and they are NOTHING like the 'chop' in that video. You have not sailed anywhere but a back woods mangrove swamp at best. Here is 11 ft seas Nellie:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC2AGQZtsvM Wouldn't 11 foot seas be somewhat higher than the cabin top?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, We had 11 fters for 4-5 days out of the NE. Again it's hard to determine wave height from video's but thats what they were. They were spaced a good 100 ft, it's not like they were splashing over the wheelhouse, more like a slow rise and fall, a nice ride infact. Joe Oh... ocean swells. That makes more sense. We get that on calm days anywhere outside the protection of Long Island Sound.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not the same. From Wikipeda: (taken from Boditch most likely) When directly being generated and affected by the local winds, a wind wave system is called a wind sea. After the wind ceases to blow, wind waves are called swell. Or, more generally, a swell consists of wind generated waves that are not — or hardly — affected by the local wind at the same moment. They have been generated elsewhere, or some time ago.[1] Wind waves in the ocean are called ocean surface waves. **************** Since they were from the NE with onl;y 5-600 miles fetch it precludes any "ocean swell". If they were swells they would have been Gulf Swells, but I contend they were "Wind waves" Joe |
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On Jan 8, 9:03*am, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:37:05 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote: On Jan 4, 10:58 am, wrote: On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 08:29:16 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote: On Jan 4, 8:55 am, wrote: On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 06:49:10 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote: On Jan 3, 11:53 am, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message ... I looked at the other compelling videos JoeS Butcher posted on youtoub. The one that really gave me a laugh was the one Joe titled, GIANT MONSTER WAVES ! http://www.youtube.com/user/JoeSButc.../1/EomTf3hczco Bwahahahahhahahahahh! I thought that one was a riot, too. It's as if he were being facetious or something but he was dead serious. He clearly has never experienced a real 25 foot sea on a small sailing yacht. I have, and they are NOTHING like the 'chop' in that video. You have not sailed anywhere but a back woods mangrove swamp at best. Here is 11 ft seas Nellie:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC2AGQZtsvM Wouldn't 11 foot seas be somewhat higher than the cabin top?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, We had 11 fters for 4-5 days out of the NE. Again it's hard to determine wave height from video's but thats what they were. They were spaced a good 100 ft, it's not like they were splashing over the wheelhouse, more like a slow rise and fall, a nice ride infact. Joe Oh... ocean swells. That makes more sense. We get that on calm days anywhere outside the protection of Long Island Sound.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not the same. From Wikipeda: (taken from Boditch most likely) When directly being generated and affected by the local winds, a wind wave system is called a wind sea. After the wind ceases to blow, wind waves are called swell. Or, more generally, a swell consists of wind generated waves that are not or hardly affected by the local wind at the same moment. They have been generated elsewhere, or some time ago.[1] Wind waves in the ocean are called ocean surface waves. **************** Since they were from the NE with onl;y 5-600 miles fetch it precludes any "ocean swell". If they were swells they would have been Gulf Swells, but I contend they were *"Wind waves" Joe There wasn't enough local wind to make 11 foot waves, Joe. in this video? Thats what were talking about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC2AGQZtsvM 20-30 kts for 4-5 days is not enough wind to make 11 fter's in 12,000 ft of water? Wind waves would have been steeper, and closer together, too. Why? Joe - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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"Joe" wrote in message
... 20-30 kts for 4-5 days is not enough wind to make 11 fter's in 12,000 ft of water? You're a liar, Joe. That particular cold front had winds in the 20-30 knot range for ONLY about 18 hours. After that, they veered to the NE and E and died down quite quickly. Had you not panicked and called for a premature evacuation you could have broad reached then run home. Like I said, you should have hove-to and rode out the little cold front instead of stubbornly trying to stay on schedule by bashing into it. Dummy! You are no sailor - just another motor head. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Jan 8, 1:09*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ... 20-30 kts for 4-5 days is not enough wind to make 11 fter's in 12,000 ft of water? You're a liar, Joe. That particular cold front had winds in the 20-30 knot range for ONLY about 18 hours. After that, they veered to the NE and E and died down quite quickly. Had you not panicked and called for a premature evacuation you could have broad reached then run home. Like I said, you should have hove-to and rode out the little cold front instead of stubbornly trying to stay on schedule by bashing into it. Dummy! You are no sailor - just another motor head. Wilbur Hubbard Yooo..douche bag, you're a perv, and can not follow along. This was serveral days before the bad front. During the later front hove to would have rolled the boat, just to much current against the waves..running would have pooped her. No one ever panicked and the best part was no one was hurt seriously or lost. The boat sunk that night, with 3 pumps running and a lister generator, that I know would have kept running for weeks ,or until I made it back out to the area. Had the boat been floating the next morning than I might have given a second thought to your stupity. So you are wrong and I'm right, again. So say what you want Neal Warren your opinion has been well proved here to be of no value what-so-ever. Your meek, weak and worthless at best. I think I'm going to take a clue from everyone else in the world and shun you, any glimmer of honor, diginity, and self respect you ever had left you years ago. Adios pendejo Joe |
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Joe wrote:
This was serveral days before the bad front. During the later front hove to would have rolled the boat, just to much current against the waves..running would have pooped her. No one ever panicked and the best part was no one was hurt seriously or lost. The boat sunk that night, with 3 pumps running and a lister generator, that I know would have kept running for weeks ,or until I made it back out to the area. Had the boat been floating the next morning than I might have given a second thought to your stupity. So you are wrong and I'm right, again. So say what you want Neal Warren your opinion has been well proved here to be of no value what-so-ever. Your meek, weak and worthless at best. I think I'm going to take a clue from everyone else in the world and shun you, any glimmer of honor, diginity, and self respect you ever had left you years ago. Adios pendejo Joe Joe, Abandoning ship had to have been a hard call. I've always thought highly of you for having put the people first. There can only be one captain on board. I'd hate to be constantly second guessing whether the skipper had my best interest at heart. You have proved where your heart is. I'd sail with you anytime (if you'd have me). Respects, Richard -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop, at late or early hour... Now is the only time you own. Live, love, toil with a will. Place no faith in time. For the clock may soon be still." |
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"cavelamb" wrote in message
m... I'd sail with you anytime (if you'd have me). Death wish? Wilbur Hubbard |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message m... I'd sail with you anytime (if you'd have me). Death wish? Wilbur Hubbard No. A chance to sail with an experienced captain - and enjoy some good coffee at the same time. :) A ship in port (like yours) is safe. But that's not what ships are for... -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop, at late or early hour... Now is the only time you own. Live, love, toil with a will. Place no faith in time. For the clock may soon be still." |
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"cavelamb" wrote in message
m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "cavelamb" wrote in message m... I'd sail with you anytime (if you'd have me). Death wish? Wilbur Hubbard No. A chance to sail with an experienced captain - and enjoy some good coffee at the same time. :) He's experienced alright but I'd call it dubious experience. Not many of us real sailors would be proud of having experienced a helicopter rescue during the passage of a routine cold front due solely to the fact that we didn't know how to cope with it. As for the coffee, you'd BETTER enjoy it as it costs upwards of 20 bucks a pound and only an idiot would pay that outrageous price. Besides, calling coffee 'green' has got to be the ultimate joke on 'greenies.' It's got to be grown, transported, stored, ordered, shipped to the consumer, roasted, ground and then brewed. Guess what, every step of the way this produces CO2. Joe is disengenuous. His customers are suckers. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Jan 10, 11:49*am, cavelamb wrote:
Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "cavelamb" wrote in message om... I'd sail with you anytime (if you'd have me). Death wish? Wilbur Hubbard No. A chance to sail with an experienced captain - and enjoy some good coffee at the same time. *:) Anytime Richard. If you are ever around Houston come on by. As far as ditching from RedCloud it was a people call. Including the request and consideration of USCG responders who were very concerned about a night time operation and forecast. I've had far worse days at sea, than the day we ditched RedCloud. I'm not proud of ditching her, and you are right, it was one of the hardest calls I ever had to make. I knew the second I made that call she was going down, I'd never see her again. But you measure the cost and make the decision. The old adage the Captn always goes down with the ship only applies when the ship and it's cargo or mission is of more value than the life lost. RedCloud was a nice boat, home..... but not worth the risk of life and limb. I'm proud no one was hurt, RedCloud had all the proper equipment and was ready for a worst case event. We all had the training and skills needed. We did deliver a huge cargo of shoes, boots , musical instruments, schools supplies all donated by local friends and citizens for the children of San Pedro. And life goes on. I'm over it and learned much. Things you dont get over are friends hurt or killed. I often think about a 19 yo deckhand that had his hand sucked into a turbo charger. He made it back to the wheelhouse in time to show me what happened, in a joking way before going into shock. That was a bad day at sea. I can think of many more bad days than I care to share. Anyone who spends a lifetime working boats has bad day stories. But as you know, or will find out, the sea has a way of making it all worth the risk. The support for our advanced Eco-Sailing Coffee venture is growing fast, soon we will reach the all important tipping point and be at full hull speed. Even in these down times our coffee is exploding in sales here because it is the best, freshest coffee around, and cheaper than most including Starbucks in our local grocery stores. At a retail price..our most expensive certified Antiqua "RedClouds Finest" sells for 11.99 an honest good ol pound. The run of the mill Starbucks sells for 8.99 for 12 oz. Our most popular "Boat Roast" sells retail for 7.99. a pound and it's a delicious Costa Rican Tres Rio's bean that we roast fresh and pack warm and rush to the store. It's smooth as velvet and spicey good. A ship in port (like yours) is safe. But that's not what ships are for... -- If it has a busted boom held together with bailing wire and sewer plumbing pipe and only a bucket head.. it is suited better to stay put. Neal's knows his boat best. Joe Richard Lambhttp://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop, at late or early hour... Now is the only time you own. Live, love, toil with a will. Place no faith in time. *For the clock may soon be still." |
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On Jan 10, 12:58*pm, Joe wrote:
* The support for our advanced Eco-Sailing Coffee venture is growing fast, soon we will reach the all important tipping point and be at full hull speed. Even in these down times our coffee is exploding in sales here because it is the best, freshest coffee around, and cheaper than most including Starbucks in our local grocery stores. It's smooth as velvet and spicey good. Joe Ya know Willburrrr Joe just might be successful. After spending a year in south land I can say without hesatation: southerners dont know **** bout coffee or beer. Everyone Ive worked with so far LOVE that Community Coffee and think that Starbucks is crap. Personally im not that fond of Starbucks either but it beats that southern Folgers... Christ just look at Morgan City, LA. There aint NO i repete NO place to get drinkable coffee. Its all dishwater belly wash. SO what does that mean???? Those fools down south will think that Red cloud coffee is really good stuff; Go figure. Have fun Joe but dont thiink if a bunch Bubbas like your stuff it will fly anyplace else. Bob |
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:32:57 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote: SO what does that mean???? Those fools down south will think that Red cloud coffee is really good stuff; Go figure. Have fun Joe but dont thiink if a bunch Bubbas like your stuff it will fly anyplace else. Bob, with all that love you and Joe share, you two should really get a place together. |
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On Jan 10, 7:32*pm, Bob wrote:
On Jan 10, 12:58*pm, Joe wrote: * The support for our advanced Eco-Sailing Coffee venture is growing fast, soon we will reach the all important tipping point and be at full hull speed. Even in these down times our coffee is exploding in sales here because it is the best, freshest coffee around, and cheaper than most including Starbucks in our local grocery stores. It's smooth as velvet and spicey good. Joe Ya know Willburrrr Joe just might be successful. After spending a year in south land I can say without hesatation: southerners dont know **** bout coffee or beer. Everyone Ive worked with so far LOVE that Community Coffee and think that Starbucks is crap. Personally im not that fond of Starbucks either but it beats that southern Folgers... Christ just look at Morgan City, LA. There aint NO i repete NO place to get drinkable coffee. Its all dishwater belly wash. SO what does that mean???? Those fools down south will think that Red cloud coffee is really good stuff; Go figure. Have fun Joe but dont thiink if a bunch Bubbas like your stuff it will fly anyplace else. Bob Hey Bob, Went aboard the Edison Chouest last week and they mentioned a couple boats in Fouchon. They have 4 working here, nice boats. They were buying grocerys and we Ioaded the cook with coffee samples, you should jump from that rustbucket 4 pointer to a nice boat. My sweetheart did a hitch on the Edison as an AB. http://travel.webshots.com/photo/118...51960134AINSIM What was the name of the Chouest boats down in Fouchon? Joe |
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