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help with boat that was sold illegally
I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone
else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the title and never has registered the boat. In GA in order to register a boat from a state where a title is required, a person must get the title and registration info of the last person who registered it. I've been in touch with the someone else a number of times, but they (his woman is the only one who has responded) keep blowing me off and won't tell me how to get in touch with "the brother". To me it seems that they took the boat across state lines and then sold it illegally, which also seems that it should have a penalty of a minimum fine and possibly jail time, up to a maximum fine and maximum jail time, but I haven't been able to find out what the penalty is. Might it even be a federal offense? I've mentioned that if they continue to refuse to tell me how to contact the person who still has title and registration, that I'll report the illegal sale to the DNR and also to the police if it comes down to that, but they apparently don't believe any authorities would do anything or they would rather face the authorities than tell me how to get in touch with "the brother". Before I actually do contact the DNR, FL DMV, and possibly the police about the illegal sale, does anyone have any suggestions about a better way of getting this mess straightened out? |
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wrote in message ... I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the title and never has registered the boat. In GA in order to register a boat from a state where a title is required, a person must get the title and registration info of the last person who registered it. I've been in touch with the someone else a number of times, but they (his woman is the only one who has responded) keep blowing me off and won't tell me how to get in touch with "the brother". To me it seems that they took the boat across state lines and then sold it illegally, which also seems that it should have a penalty of a minimum fine and possibly jail time, up to a maximum fine and maximum jail time, but I haven't been able to find out what the penalty is. Might it even be a federal offense? I've mentioned that if they continue to refuse to tell me how to contact the person who still has title and registration, that I'll report the illegal sale to the DNR and also to the police if it comes down to that, but they apparently don't believe any authorities would do anything or they would rather face the authorities than tell me how to get in touch with "the brother". Before I actually do contact the DNR, FL DMV, and possibly the police about the illegal sale, does anyone have any suggestions about a better way of getting this mess straightened out? "the brother" and "his woman" are likely in on the deal.... It's very likely a stolen boat and you have been had... I hope you didn't spend to much money on the boat. Get the authorities involved, you might have a chance at getting your money back, however doubtful. Have you been able to contact the guy you bought in from in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if he gave you bogus contact info? I'm not trying to be an ass, it just sounds like you are dealing with thieves to me... Good luck, JT |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:43:14 -0700, "JT"
wrote: wrote in message .. . I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the title and never has registered the boat. In GA in order to register a boat from a state where a title is required, a person must get the title and registration info of the last person who registered it. I've been in touch with the someone else a number of times, but they (his woman is the only one who has responded) keep blowing me off and won't tell me how to get in touch with "the brother". To me it seems that they took the boat across state lines and then sold it illegally, which also seems that it should have a penalty of a minimum fine and possibly jail time, up to a maximum fine and maximum jail time, but I haven't been able to find out what the penalty is. Might it even be a federal offense? I've mentioned that if they continue to refuse to tell me how to contact the person who still has title and registration, that I'll report the illegal sale to the DNR and also to the police if it comes down to that, but they apparently don't believe any authorities would do anything or they would rather face the authorities than tell me how to get in touch with "the brother". Before I actually do contact the DNR, FL DMV, and possibly the police about the illegal sale, does anyone have any suggestions about a better way of getting this mess straightened out? "the brother" and "his woman" are likely in on the deal.... It's very likely a stolen boat and you have been had... I hope you didn't spend to much money on the boat. Get the authorities involved, you might have a chance at getting your money back, however doubtful. Have you been able to contact the guy you bought in from in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if he gave you bogus contact info? I'm not trying to be an ass, it just sounds like you are dealing with thieves to me... The guy I bought it from signed a bill of sale and went with me to have it notorized. The people he got it from, who brought it here from FL, haven't provided anything and have refused to give me contact information on the supposed "brother" they got it from. |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:55:43 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:05:17 -0400, wrote: I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the title and never has registered the boat. How do you know it is titled in Florida? Do you know who is named on the title and/or registration, and can you contact them? It still has FL numbers and stickers on it, and a person I talked to down there said the most she could tell me is that it was last registered in 2002. She wouldn't give me contact info on them or even tell me their name, however. If you can't resolve it that way and want your money back, I'd sue the seller in small claims court and let law enforcement handle the other details. I want to keep the boat and register it, not get my money back. I don't even want to cause problems for the people who sold it illegally to begin with...all I want is to get it registered in my name. |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:00:59 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:05:17 -0400, wrote: I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the title and never has registered the boat. How do you know it is titled in Florida? Do you know who is named on the title and/or registration, and can you contact them? If you can't resolve it that way and want your money back, I'd sue the seller in small claims court and let law enforcement handle the other details. If you have a Florida Registration number on the side of the boat, contact Florida find the last legitimate person to register the boat with that number. That's what the GA DNR suggested, but the FL DMV won't tell me anything about it. I asked them if they could at least tell me whether it was stolen or not and they wouldn't even say that. Working both ends, from the last legitimate owner and the person you purchased the boat from, you should be able to get something accomplished. The person you dealt with in the purchase could be guilty of dealing with stolen merchandise. I'd hate to see him get in any trouble since he tried to do it right, but since he provided me with a notorized bill of sale that might help him if things eventually get ugly. |
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... I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the title and never has registered the boat. In GA in order to register a boat from a state where a title is required, a person must get the title and registration info of the last person who registered it. I've been in touch with the someone else a number of times, but they (his woman is the only one who has responded) keep blowing me off and won't tell me how to get in touch with "the brother". To me it seems that they took the boat across state lines and then sold it illegally, which also seems that it should have a penalty of a minimum fine and possibly jail time, up to a maximum fine and maximum jail time, but I haven't been able to find out what the penalty is. Might it even be a federal offense? I've mentioned that if they continue to refuse to tell me how to contact the person who still has title and registration, that I'll report the illegal sale to the DNR and also to the police if it comes down to that, but they apparently don't believe any authorities would do anything or they would rather face the authorities than tell me how to get in touch with "the brother". Before I actually do contact the DNR, FL DMV, and possibly the police about the illegal sale, does anyone have any suggestions about a better way of getting this mess straightened out? Oh, please! If you're too stupid to buy a boat without blotching the job, stop bothering, with all the sordid details, those of who don't need our hand held for every simple task. Buying a boat = a soap opera only if you're an idiot. -- Gregory Hall |
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wrote in message ... I'm in GA and bought a boat from someone who got it from someone else. It came from and is currently still registered in FL, where the someone else supposedly got it from "his brother". The person I got it from gave me a notorized bill of sale, but the someone else he got it from didn't give him anything, never has had the title and never has registered the boat. In GA in order to register a boat from a state where a title is required, a person must get the title and registration info of the last person who registered it. I've been in touch with the someone else a number of times, but they (his woman is the only one who has responded) keep blowing me off and won't tell me how to get in touch with "the brother". To me it seems that they took the boat across state lines and then sold it illegally, which also seems that it should have a penalty of a minimum fine and possibly jail time, up to a maximum fine and maximum jail time, but I haven't been able to find out what the penalty is. Might it even be a federal offense? I've mentioned that if they continue to refuse to tell me how to contact the person who still has title and registration, that I'll report the illegal sale to the DNR and also to the police if it comes down to that, but they apparently don't believe any authorities would do anything or they would rather face the authorities than tell me how to get in touch with "the brother". Before I actually do contact the DNR, FL DMV, and possibly the police about the illegal sale, does anyone have any suggestions about a better way of getting this mess straightened out? Now that you know this information, if you DON'T go to the authorities immediately, you become a part of it. Maybe there is a way they can get clear paper for you. Quite a difference between you contacting them, and an officer doing same. Steve |
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wrote I'd hate to see him get in any trouble since he tried to do it right, but since he provided me with a notorized bill of sale that might help him if things eventually get ugly. Sounds ugly already to me. |
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