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Flying Pig[_2_] September 7th 09 02:59 AM

St. Augustine Local Knowledge, please
 
We're going to be arriving in St. Augustine late next week (10th-ish).

What's the controlling depth on the inlet?

Thanks.

L8R

Skip and crew

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Larry September 7th 09 04:11 AM

St. Augustine Local Knowledge, please
 
"Flying Pig" wrote in :

We're going to be arriving in St. Augustine late next week (10th-ish).

What's the controlling depth on the inlet?



http://marinas.com/map/index.php?inf...windowid=5 35

Picture a beach full of sand dunes buried under 3 feet of water that shifts
constantly for no apparent reason.....like every other East Coast Florida
inlet.

Click on the satellite view, which is old but newer and much more useful
than the stupid charts from 1947.

Those white areas underwater aren't schools of fish.....

Remember, the piles of underwater sand dunes to the East are in the ocean,
as opposed to the piles of underwater sand dunes to the West that used to
be the ICW.

--
Larry

It really might not be a bad idea to get some of those waterbags to tilt
her over. You can lay her down AND get under some bridges, too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epz6BBZm__0

Having dragged the Amel Sharki's keel over the sand across Florida I don't
think any "controlling depth" makes a damned bit of difference as there's
no maintenance to notice any more.....

"How deep is Lake Worth?"....about 6" less than an unloaded Amel Sharki 41.

Wayne.B September 7th 09 05:31 AM

St. Augustine Local Knowledge, please
 
On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:59:45 -0400, "Flying Pig"
wrote:

We're going to be arriving in St. Augustine late next week (10th-ish).

What's the controlling depth on the inlet?


There is plenty of water in the inlet, at least 8 to 10 feet,
considerably more in most places, and the buoys are easy to spot.

Try to time your arrival for a flood tide. We've never had a problem
but have heard from others that the inlet can be dicey with a strong
easterly wind/swell against an ebb tide.

Here are a few of our track lines coming and going over the last
couple of years:

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/794...stineinlet.jpg


Rosalie B. September 7th 09 02:20 PM

St. Augustine Local Knowledge, please
 
"Flying Pig" wrote:

We're going to be arriving in St. Augustine late next week (10th-ish).

What's the controlling depth on the inlet?

Thanks.

L8R

Skip and crew


I've never been brave enough to come in St. Augustine. We like a
Class A inlet like Fernandina. If I had to come in somewhere south of
that, I'd come in at Jacksonville, which isn't very far north and is
also class A, and the other inlet that we've used is Ft. Pierce.

If you have an opposing wind and tide, any entry is going to be rough.



Janet O'Leary September 7th 09 03:09 PM

St. Augustine Local Knowledge, please
 

"Flying Pig" wrote in message
...
We're going to be arriving in St. Augustine late next week (10th-ish).

What's the controlling depth on the inlet?

Thanks.

L8R

Skip and crew

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why not wait until you see a huge ship, with a deep draft going in, and
follow.



Larry September 7th 09 05:26 PM

St. Augustine Local Knowledge, please
 
Wayne.B wrote in
:

Here are a few of our track lines coming and going over the last
couple of years:

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/794...stineinlet.jpg




How cool you are, Wayne. Excellent.....

--
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Larry September 7th 09 05:27 PM

St. Augustine Local Knowledge, please
 
"Janet O'Leary" wrote in news:ju8pm.1567
:


why not wait until you see a huge ship, with a deep draft going in, and
follow.


In St Augustine?! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....(c;]
Very funny.



--
Larry


Wayne.B September 7th 09 07:43 PM

St. Augustine Local Knowledge, please
 
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:26:39 +0000, Larry wrote:

Wayne.B wrote in
:

Here are a few of our track lines coming and going over the last
couple of years:

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/794...stineinlet.jpg




How cool you are, Wayne. Excellent.....


Aww shucks, t'weren't nuthin Larry, really. :-)

Actually I've got over 14,000 nautical miles of archived GPS track
lines from the last 5 years of cruising, very handy for remembering
how we handled a tricky inlet or passage the last time.




Wilbur Hubbard September 8th 09 12:19 AM

St. Augustine Local Knowledge, please
 
"Flying Pig" wrote in message
...
We're going to be arriving in St. Augustine late next week (10th-ish).

What's the controlling depth on the inlet?



On a low tide it can be "iffy" for six foot of draft. I recall running into
that inlet on a low tide using a shoreside range in a Nor'easter gale under
single-reefed main and 75% jib around midnight many years ago. I was enroute
from Cape Lookout and tired so I was going in to anchor and get some
shut-eye no matter the weather. A Coast Guard cutter was in hot pursuit.
They radioed me saying it probably wasn't wise to attempt the inlet in those
conditions but I radioed back telling them I had local knowledge and a shoal
draft of 3.5 feet. So I flew in broad reaching and never touched bottom even
though there were five to six foot seas running. The Coasties turned tail
and headed out to deeper water to ride it out. I sailed into the anchorage
behind the barrier island, turned directly into the wind and dropped sail
and then anchor. Got a good night's sleep.

There is enough depth for you but avoid going in on a low tide as the water
over the bar can shoal up and get a might skimpy in places. I'd recommend
going in at a rising mid-tide. (tide can be five or six feet there) Also
look behind you often as there can be a pretty good cross current running at
times that might drift you out of the channel or dangerously close to the
edges of the dredged areas. DON'T let Lydia steer!! A good place to anchor
for some peace and quiet is turn to port after the first barrier island and
feel your way in. If you stay about a hundred yards off the island you
should be OK. Nice and sheltered and not much current running like there
will be in the Intracoastal anchorage. No facilities there, however. The
Bridge of Lions anchorage has current but also facilities and the holding is
generally pretty good. I would lay to two anchors set Bahamian style so you
don't drag on a changing tide.

Wilbur Hubbard



Flying Pig[_2_] September 8th 09 02:29 AM

St. Augustine Local Knowledge, please
 
Thanks, Wilbur, for the useful information. Lydia sends you a big fat wet
kiss :{))

When are you going to come whip our sorry asses into shape?

L8R

Skip, ALMOST finished with the boat chores and just a little more
provisioning before we leave. Log posting and pictures sometime soon.

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SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog
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make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in
its hand
(Richard Bach)
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
"Flying Pig" wrote in message
...
We're going to be arriving in St. Augustine late next week (10th-ish).

What's the controlling depth on the inlet?



On a low tide it can be "iffy" for six foot of draft. I recall running
into that inlet on a low tide . I sailed into the anchorage behind the
barrier island, turned directly into the wind and dropped sail and then
anchor. Got a good night's sleep.

There is enough depth for you but avoid going in on a low tide as the
water over the bar can shoal up and get a might skimpy in places. I'd
recommend going in at a rising mid-tide. (tide can be five or six feet
there) Also look behind you often as there can be a pretty good cross
current running at times that might drift you out of the channel or
dangerously close to the edges of the dredged areas. DON'T let Lydia
steer!! A good place to anchor for some peace and quiet is turn to port
after the first barrier island and feel your way in. If you stay about a
hundred yards off the island you should be OK. Nice and sheltered and not
much current running like there will be in the Intracoastal anchorage. No
facilities there, however. The Bridge of Lions anchorage has current but
also facilities and the holding is generally pretty good. I would lay to
two anchors set Bahamian style so you don't drag on a changing tide.

Wilbur Hubbard






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