Want a small diesel setup...
 

Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP) diesel
engine and transmission?

Want a small diesel setup...
 

cavelamb wrote in
:

Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP)
diesel engine and transmission?


Craigslist is your friend!

www.craigslist.com

Start in your area and work your way outward....



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Larry

If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something,
is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him?

Want a small diesel setup...
 

Larry wrote:
cavelamb wrote in
:

Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP)
diesel engine and transmission?


Craigslist is your friend!

www.craigslist.com

Start in your area and work your way outward....




Anybody at all?

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cavelamb wrote:
Larry wrote:
cavelamb wrote in
:
Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP)
diesel engine and transmission?


Craigslist is your friend!

www.craigslist.com

Start in your area and work your way outward....




Anybody at all?

Tell me where you live and I'll look it up on Craiglist for you and then
post it here. Do you have internet access problems?

Stephen

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Stephen Trapani wrote:
cavelamb wrote:
Larry wrote:
cavelamb wrote in
:
Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP)
diesel engine and transmission?


Craigslist is your friend!

www.craigslist.com

Start in your area and work your way outward....




Anybody at all?

Tell me where you live and I'll look it up on Craiglist for you and then
post it here. Do you have internet access problems?

Stephen

craigslist...

Find a few and post them here, ok?

10-Two or something else up to 16 hp (under 320 pounds?)

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cavelamb wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote:
cavelamb wrote:
Larry wrote:
cavelamb wrote in
:
Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP)
diesel engine and transmission?


Craigslist is your friend!

www.craigslist.com

Start in your area and work your way outward....




Anybody at all?

Tell me where you live and I'll look it up on Craiglist for you and
then post it here. Do you have internet access problems?

Stephen

craigslist...

Find a few and post them here, ok?

10-Two or something else up to 16 hp (under 320 pounds?)

The problem with something that heavy is that you can't make it
economical unless it's in your area. I don't know where you live. If you
have internet access, type "craigslist.org" into your web browser and
then select the closest city to you. In the search field type "diesel."
Scroll through them and you'll find a few in far less time then it's
taken you to write and read this thread.

Stephen

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Stephen Trapani wrote:

The problem with something that heavy is that you can't make it
economical unless it's in your area. I don't know where you live. If you
have internet access, type "craigslist.org" into your web browser and
then select the closest city to you. In the search field type "diesel."
Scroll through them and you'll find a few in far less time then it's
taken you to write and read this thread.

Stephen

I'm curious as to why you would assume I haven't already done that, isn't it?
Craigslist is handy for some things, but it doesn't cover everything.
Nor everywhere.
Nor does the net. (believe it or not)

So, I put a short simple note here.


Texas coast would be the place to look.
(and I have)

Want a small diesel setup...
 

Somebody wrote:

Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP)
diesel engine and transmission?

A marinized Kubota, try Beta.

Probably more than you want to pay, but that's life.

Lew

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On Mon, 18 May 2009 02:47:57 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

Stephen Trapani wrote:

The problem with something that heavy is that you can't make it
economical unless it's in your area. I don't know where you live. If you
have internet access, type "craigslist.org" into your web browser and
then select the closest city to you. In the search field type "diesel."
Scroll through them and you'll find a few in far less time then it's
taken you to write and read this thread.

Stephen

I'm curious as to why you would assume I haven't already done that, isn't it?
Craigslist is handy for some things, but it doesn't cover everything.
Nor everywhere.
Nor does the net. (believe it or not)

So, I put a short simple note here.


Texas coast would be the place to look.
(and I have)




Check boat salvage businesses. There were a lot of wrecked sailboats
down there recently.

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On Mon, 18 May 2009 06:02:17 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 May 2009 02:47:57 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

Stephen Trapani wrote:

The problem with something that heavy is that you can't make it
economical unless it's in your area. I don't know where you live. If you
have internet access, type "craigslist.org" into your web browser and
then select the closest city to you. In the search field type "diesel."
Scroll through them and you'll find a few in far less time then it's
taken you to write and read this thread.

Stephen

I'm curious as to why you would assume I haven't already done that, isn't it?
Craigslist is handy for some things, but it doesn't cover everything.
Nor everywhere.
Nor does the net. (believe it or not)

So, I put a short simple note here.


Texas coast would be the place to look.
(and I have)

Other then the obvious "I wanna put it in a boat" why are you looking
for a motor? The old one broke? Or building a new boat?


Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2009 06:02:17 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 May 2009 02:47:57 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

Stephen Trapani wrote:
The problem with something that heavy is that you can't make it
economical unless it's in your area. I don't know where you live. If you
have internet access, type "craigslist.org" into your web browser and
then select the closest city to you. In the search field type "diesel."
Scroll through them and you'll find a few in far less time then it's
taken you to write and read this thread.

Stephen
I'm curious as to why you would assume I haven't already done that, isn't it?
Craigslist is handy for some things, but it doesn't cover everything.
Nor everywhere.
Nor does the net. (believe it or not)

So, I put a short simple note here.


Texas coast would be the place to look.
(and I have)

Other then the obvious "I wanna put it in a boat" why are you looking
for a motor? The old one broke? Or building a new boat?


Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Hi Bruce,
I'm just interested to see what it would cost - and how much hassle it would
be - to replace an outboard with an inboard diesel.

Outboard boats handle differently than inboards.
All the boats I've ever had were outboards - and they were fine.
But it takes different approach to close maneuvering.

But going down to the sea, it might be worth the effort / expense to have a
diesel. Better range, less volatile fuel, prop blowing water on the rudder
for more standard handling (among big boat skippers), corrosion issues.

I'd bet in Bangcock this would be a no brainer, have it done in a week.

Richard

Want a small diesel setup...
 

Lew Hodgett wrote:
Somebody wrote:

Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP)
diesel engine and transmission?

A marinized Kubota, try Beta.

Probably more than you want to pay, but that's life.

Lew



New, you are dead right!

Want a small diesel setup...
 

Lew Hodgett wrote:
Somebody wrote:

Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP)
diesel engine and transmission?

A marinized Kubota, try Beta.

Probably more than you want to pay, but that's life.

Lew




Thanks Lew.

Beta Marine Beta 10 Beta Marine Diesel Engines w/ standard features &
transmission : $7,062.00 - plus shipping.

Want a small diesel setup...
 

"cavelamb" wrote:

Beta Marine Beta 10 Beta Marine Diesel Engines w/ standard features
& transmission : $7,062.00 - plus shipping.

Sounds about right.

Lew

Want a small diesel setup...
 

cavelamb wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Somebody wrote:

Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP)
diesel engine and transmission?

A marinized Kubota, try Beta.

Probably more than you want to pay, but that's life.

Lew




Thanks Lew.

Beta Marine Beta 10 Beta Marine Diesel Engines w/ standard features &
transmission : $7,062.00 - plus shipping.

You should be able to get a Volvo-Penta D1-13 for about that, nice
motor, (I've got one)

Cheers
Martin

Want a small diesel setup...
 

Martin Baxter wrote:
cavelamb wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Somebody wrote:

Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP)
diesel engine and transmission?

A marinized Kubota, try Beta.

Probably more than you want to pay, but that's life.

Lew




Thanks Lew.

Beta Marine Beta 10 Beta Marine Diesel Engines w/ standard features &
transmission : $7,062.00 - plus shipping.

You should be able to get a Volvo-Penta D1-13 for about that, nice
motor, (I've got one)

Cheers
Martin

I did see a VP S-Drive that was fairly reasonable. Installing one would be
the easiset way to go. But IIRC, they are at least partly aluminum.
Salt water environment is pretty hard on that.

Want a small diesel setup...
 

In article , Martin Baxter
wrote:

cavelamb wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Somebody wrote:

Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP)
diesel engine and transmission?

A marinized Kubota, try Beta.

Probably more than you want to pay, but that's life.

Lew




Thanks Lew.

Beta Marine Beta 10 Beta Marine Diesel Engines w/ standard features &
transmission : $7,062.00 - plus shipping.

You should be able to get a Volvo-Penta D1-13 for about that, nice
motor, (I've got one)

Cheers
Martin

and if you ever need Parts, expect to PAY, and PAY, and PAY, for them....
Volvo is extremely proud of their Parts, and charge accordingly....

Want a small diesel setup...
 

You wrote:
In article , Martin Baxter
wrote:

cavelamb wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Somebody wrote:

Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP)
diesel engine and transmission?
A marinized Kubota, try Beta.

Probably more than you want to pay, but that's life.

Lew



Thanks Lew.

Beta Marine Beta 10 Beta Marine Diesel Engines w/ standard features &
transmission : $7,062.00 - plus shipping.
You should be able to get a Volvo-Penta D1-13 for about that, nice
motor, (I've got one)

Cheers
Martin

and if you ever need Parts, expect to PAY, and PAY, and PAY, for them....
Volvo is extremely proud of their Parts, and charge accordingly....


I really liked the Westerbeke 13 HP two cylinder. It would run a lot smoother
than that one lunger 10 hp.


If i could find one complete (like from a wreck, Salty!) I think it would
be a very interesting winter project.

So who (besides Wee Willie) has a wreck handy?


Richard

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"cavelamb" wrote in message
...
You wrote:
In article , Martin Baxter
wrote:

cavelamb wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Somebody wrote:

Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP)
diesel engine and transmission?
A marinized Kubota, try Beta.

Probably more than you want to pay, but that's life.

Lew



Thanks Lew.

Beta Marine Beta 10 Beta Marine Diesel Engines w/ standard features &
transmission : $7,062.00 - plus shipping.
You should be able to get a Volvo-Penta D1-13 for about that, nice
motor, (I've got one)

Cheers
Martin

and if you ever need Parts, expect to PAY, and PAY, and PAY, for them....
Volvo is extremely proud of their Parts, and charge accordingly....


I really liked the Westerbeke 13 HP two cylinder. It would run a lot
smoother
than that one lunger 10 hp.


If i could find one complete (like from a wreck, Salty!) I think it would
be a very interesting winter project.

So who (besides Wee Willie) has a wreck handy?


Richard


I don't have a spare, but I can tell you that I really like the engine. I
have one in my Sabre. Not a minute's trouble.


--
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www.sailnow.com

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Capt. JG wrote:

I really liked the Westerbeke 13 HP two cylinder. It would run a lot
smoother
than that one lunger 10 hp.


If i could find one complete (like from a wreck, Salty!) I think it would
be a very interesting winter project.

So who (besides Wee Willie) has a wreck handy?


Richard


I don't have a spare, but I can tell you that I really like the engine. I
have one in my Sabre. Not a minute's trouble.



Here is what the job looks like to me...


Shaft, packing gland, strut and propeller
Engine bed stringer caps and saddles
Fuel tank with supply and return lines and fill
Fuel water filter separator (and eventually fuel polishing system?)

Raw water thru hull, sea cock, strainer and related hoses and clamps
Exhaust outlet thru hull, muffler, hoses and clamps
Battery and connectors, grounding bonding wire.

Panel and/or gauges
Engine controls shift and throttle, cables and connectors.
Engine compartment (housing), ventilation system.

And, for my boat, a new companionway ladder since the engine compartment
forms part of the ladder.

Since the idea is to swim the salt, maybe a heat exchanger for engine cooling?

All depends on finding a suitable package.

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"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Capt. JG wrote:

I really liked the Westerbeke 13 HP two cylinder. It would run a lot
smoother
than that one lunger 10 hp.


If i could find one complete (like from a wreck, Salty!) I think it
would
be a very interesting winter project.

So who (besides Wee Willie) has a wreck handy?


Richard


I don't have a spare, but I can tell you that I really like the engine. I
have one in my Sabre. Not a minute's trouble.



Here is what the job looks like to me...


Shaft, packing gland, strut and propeller
Engine bed stringer caps and saddles
Fuel tank with supply and return lines and fill
Fuel water filter separator (and eventually fuel polishing system?)

Raw water thru hull, sea cock, strainer and related hoses and clamps
Exhaust outlet thru hull, muffler, hoses and clamps
Battery and connectors, grounding bonding wire.

Panel and/or gauges
Engine controls shift and throttle, cables and connectors.
Engine compartment (housing), ventilation system.

And, for my boat, a new companionway ladder since the engine compartment
forms part of the ladder.

Since the idea is to swim the salt, maybe a heat exchanger for engine
cooling?

All depends on finding a suitable package.


I don't think you need a fuel polishing system if you have clean
fuel/tank/lines. They're all going to be new, right? Do others in your area
have dirty fuel issues?

I would suggest a dual primary filter system. I made that happen at the last
haulout... dual Racors. When I get a chance, I'll upload the pictures, so
you can see what it looks like. Basically, you can switch from one to the
other quickly without having to stop, then when the conditions improve, you
can swap out the filter on the one that failed.

I'd also suggest spending some money and thought about sound-proofing the
compartment.

You could go with a dripless stuffing box, but honestly my near dripless
packing gland material is way cheaper and I've never seen a drop of water.

My W13 is fresh-water cooled with heat-exchanger, which came standard with
the Sabre. They do require some maintenance, but that's true with just about
anything. I would definitely recommend a full service, including valve
adjustment.

Like I said, I don't have the current pictures uploaded, but you can look at
the engine he

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....aliburSabre30#

(engine pics are near the bottom)


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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Capt. JG wrote:

Like I said, I don't have the current pictures uploaded, but you can look at
the engine he

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....aliburSabre30#

(engine pics are near the bottom)




Tease! But it is a very nice boat...

Mine
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/tempt.htm

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"cavelamb" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:

Like I said, I don't have the current pictures uploaded, but you can look
at the engine he

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....aliburSabre30#

(engine pics are near the bottom)




Tease! But it is a very nice boat...

Mine
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/tempt.htm


Looks quite roomy for a boat that size..

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:30:47 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

Martin Baxter wrote:
cavelamb wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Somebody wrote:

Anyone know of a reasonably priced source for a small (12 to 15 HP)
diesel engine and transmission?

A marinized Kubota, try Beta.

Probably more than you want to pay, but that's life.

Lew




Thanks Lew.

Beta Marine Beta 10 Beta Marine Diesel Engines w/ standard features &
transmission : $7,062.00 - plus shipping.

You should be able to get a Volvo-Penta D1-13 for about that, nice
motor, (I've got one)

Cheers
Martin

I did see a VP S-Drive that was fairly reasonable. Installing one would be
the easiset way to go. But IIRC, they are at least partly aluminum.
Salt water environment is pretty hard on that.


I'm not familiar with the engine you mention but I have two Peugeot
Induner, marinized engines in a boat. aluminum head, intake manifold,
bell housing and transmissions. Been there for about 30 years with no
problems.

The engines do have fresh water cooling though.


Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Want a small diesel setup...
 

Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
Like I said, I don't have the current pictures uploaded, but you can look
at the engine he

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....aliburSabre30#

(engine pics are near the bottom)



Tease! But it is a very nice boat...

Mine
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/tempt.htm


Looks quite roomy for a boat that size..


That it is.
The Catalina 27 has more privacy, with the head dividing the v berth
and main cabin. But that V berth is pretty small (tiny for me).


And sails well too.
Will do even better when the new sails are finished.
which brings up another question, but I'll pop a new thread for it...

Want a small diesel setup...
 

"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
Like I said, I don't have the current pictures uploaded, but you can
look at the engine he

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....aliburSabre30#

(engine pics are near the bottom)



Tease! But it is a very nice boat...

Mine
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/tempt.htm


Looks quite roomy for a boat that size..


That it is.
The Catalina 27 has more privacy, with the head dividing the v berth
and main cabin. But that V berth is pretty small (tiny for me).


And sails well too.
Will do even better when the new sails are finished.
which brings up another question, but I'll pop a new thread for it...


I'm really familiar with the older Cat 27s. They do well on the bay.

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