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thunder March 19th 09 02:50 PM

OT but very useful...
 
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:15:56 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:



What I want is a simple disk based dictionary - type the word, hit
return and get a description. Seemed simple enough, I had a program
called Word Web running in Windows that even had a hot key to activate
it. Good database of words.

Seemed like a simple problem, but the more I looked the more problems I
had. I found a lot of applications on sourceforge but most of them
wouldn't compile as apparently I don't have the right lib files. I
fought that problem a few hours and finally gave up, at least for a
while. The last straw was a program that demanded a lib file that was
outdated, something like lib.6.0 and all I had, or could find, was
lib.10.0 and it wouldn't work.

I'm down on the boat for a while and will live with what I've got but
when I get back home I'll get after it again.


Ubuntu, it's a piece of cake. No need to search for libraries. Just
type in a terminal as root, apt-get install dictd dict-gcide dict-moby-
thesaurus and make sure /etc/dictd/dict.conf has "server localhost" at
the top of the servers.

dictd is the server, and dict-gcide will give you a Websters dictionary.
If I'm not mistaken gnome-dictionary will pickup on the server
automatically. If you want to add any additional dictionaries, pick what
you want from he

http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/text/

Make sure it's from the dict section. You shouldn't have any problems,
but if you do, don't hesitate to ask. I've been running Debian for
years, and Ubuntu is Debian based.

KLC Lewis March 19th 09 03:02 PM

OT but very useful...
 

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:15:56 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:



What I want is a simple disk based dictionary - type the word, hit
return and get a description. Seemed simple enough, I had a program
called Word Web running in Windows that even had a hot key to activate
it. Good database of words.

Seemed like a simple problem, but the more I looked the more problems I
had. I found a lot of applications on sourceforge but most of them
wouldn't compile as apparently I don't have the right lib files. I
fought that problem a few hours and finally gave up, at least for a
while. The last straw was a program that demanded a lib file that was
outdated, something like lib.6.0 and all I had, or could find, was
lib.10.0 and it wouldn't work.

I'm down on the boat for a while and will live with what I've got but
when I get back home I'll get after it again.


Ubuntu, it's a piece of cake. No need to search for libraries. Just
type in a terminal as root, apt-get install dictd dict-gcide dict-moby-
thesaurus and make sure /etc/dictd/dict.conf has "server localhost" at
the top of the servers.

dictd is the server, and dict-gcide will give you a Websters dictionary.
If I'm not mistaken gnome-dictionary will pickup on the server
automatically. If you want to add any additional dictionaries, pick what
you want from he

http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/text/

Make sure it's from the dict section. You shouldn't have any problems,
but if you do, don't hesitate to ask. I've been running Debian for
years, and Ubuntu is Debian based.


Inveterate tinkerers, the lot of you. You aren't happy unless you're
tweaking your OS or interface, delving into machine language and making that
CPU get up and dance the tune that you are piping.

God love ya. :-)



Wayne.B March 19th 09 04:15 PM

OT but very useful...
 
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:46:23 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Wayne, want to take over here?


You seem to be doing OK on your own Vic. Too bad we don't seem to
have any Apple acolytes to join the fray. Tweaking them is so much
fun.

Ask these linux guys which window to click on to compile and install
their free "gnu" software.

mr.b[_2_] March 19th 09 04:32 PM

OT but very useful...
 
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:50:16 -0500, someone posting asthunder purportedly
wrote:


Ubuntu, it's a piece of cake. No need to search for libraries. Just
type in a terminal as root,


snip

no no no...that's far too complicated...it needs to be as simple as this:

1. Attach drool bucket to chin.
2. Click
3. Empty drool bucket occasionally

--
life's too short to play quietly...crank it up!

Capt. JG March 19th 09 06:50 PM

OT but very useful...
 
"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:51:07 +0000, Larry wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
m:

One of the reasons that I do not read or write to the Linux sites is
that they are full of zealots that interpret any post except a paean
of phrase to Linux as derogatory and they attack feverishly.



They sound like Apple fanbois. iPhone fanbois are a rabid group,
too....great fun to pick on, though...(c;]


The last Apple I had was an Apple ][ so I am not up to speed on the
subject but I know that the Apple users can be a loyal bunch - a
friend is a Civil Engineering consultant on a project in Taiwan. He
gets all the drawings in Auto-Cad format and has to use some sort of
translator so that he can view them on his Apple lap-top. I asked him
why not get a Windows machine for the project and got a 30 minute
lecture about Apples...

Me, I use whatever works.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



Just got an iPhone. It's a damn nice piece of equipment. Surf the web,
answer email, get directions. Hard to beat.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Edgar March 19th 09 08:08 PM

OT but very useful...
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
ions...
Just got an iPhone. It's a damn nice piece of equipment. Surf the web,
answer email, get directions. Hard to beat.


How big is your screen?
Mine is 21 inches



Capt. JG March 19th 09 10:53 PM

OT but very useful...
 
"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
ions...
Just got an iPhone. It's a damn nice piece of equipment. Surf the web,
answer email, get directions. Hard to beat.


How big is your screen?
Mine is 21 inches



?? The iPhone is tiny, but so what? I can't carry my Samsung big screen with
me in the car.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Gregory Hall March 19th 09 11:14 PM

OT but very useful...
 
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
ions...
Just got an iPhone. It's a damn nice piece of equipment. Surf the web,
answer email, get directions. Hard to beat.


How big is your screen?
Mine is 21 inches



?? The iPhone is tiny, but so what? I can't carry my Samsung big screen
with me in the car.



Why not? Does the meth lab take up too much room?

--
Gregory Hall



Vic Smith March 19th 09 11:20 PM

OT but very useful...
 
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:14:49 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
reasolutions...
"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
ions...
Just got an iPhone. It's a damn nice piece of equipment. Surf the web,
answer email, get directions. Hard to beat.

How big is your screen?
Mine is 21 inches



?? The iPhone is tiny, but so what? I can't carry my Samsung big screen
with me in the car.



Why not? Does the meth lab take up too much room?


It gets crowded fast in a Miata.

--Vic

Gregory Hall March 19th 09 11:40 PM

OT but very useful...
 
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:14:49 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
areasolutions...
"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
ions...
Just got an iPhone. It's a damn nice piece of equipment. Surf the
web,
answer email, get directions. Hard to beat.

How big is your screen?
Mine is 21 inches



?? The iPhone is tiny, but so what? I can't carry my Samsung big screen
with me in the car.



Why not? Does the meth lab take up too much room?


It gets crowded fast in a Miata.

--Vic




I had Ganz pictured as more of a Prius person - what with all his global
warming worshipping.

--
Gregory Hall



Capt. JG March 20th 09 12:19 AM

OT but very useful...
 
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:14:49 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
areasolutions...
"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
ions...
Just got an iPhone. It's a damn nice piece of equipment. Surf the
web,
answer email, get directions. Hard to beat.

How big is your screen?
Mine is 21 inches



?? The iPhone is tiny, but so what? I can't carry my Samsung big screen
with me in the car.



stalker sh*t removed
It gets crowded fast in a Miata.



Are you saying you can't fit in a Miata? lol

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Larry March 20th 09 01:28 AM

OT but very useful...
 
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

Me, I use whatever works.



ALWAYS but the system that runs the SOFTWARE, not the other way around.

Bruce In Bangkok March 20th 09 02:35 AM

OT but very useful...
 
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:46:23 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:00:40 -0500, "mr.b" wrote:

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:36:40 -0600, someone posting asVic Smith
purportedly wrote:


I never bothered with Linux because I'm a gamer and Linux is plain
inadequate.


then you probably haven't "bothered" with Linux in 6 or 7 years, as to
gaming, there are devices for that purpose yes? Perhaps an XBox or a
PlagueStation would be more your type of tool?

Just as you don't do MS, I don't do console games.
Can't we all just get along?

Besides that, since I consider writing software as paid work, it never
struck me as "efficient" to be required to work to get an OS operating
and running apps I paid for in expectation they run out of the box.


two things; first Linux is free, second you don't even know what a "live
CD" is do you. If putting a cd into a drive and turning a computer on
qualifies as "work", then perhaps a computer is too complicated a device
for you.

Well, why would I fool around with a free "live CD" OS when it won't
allow me to execute my $50 game?
Sounds like I would lose about 50 bucks doing that kind of thing.
BTW, I'm not the one scouring the net looking for fixes.
I noticed this from Bruce in this thread:
"I spent most of an afternoon searching for a decent disk based
dictionary and downloaded several that seemed to have good
recommendations. Of course being Linux they were source and every one
I tried refused to compile as my Gnome based machine lacked some
dependency or another."

Since I instantly recognize this as a needless complexity I reject
outright for non-paid activity, you may be right about me and
"complicated."
But I must say I have no difficulty with computers.
I did get paid for many years to deal with source code, assemblers and
compilers and even object code in hex representation.
Luck, no doubt. Fooled the suckers into paying me.
And after all, there are more than 10 ways to skin a cat.
There is an African tribe that inserts plates into their lips to
elongate them to tremendous proportions.
Do you hear me being critical of them?
Of course not. They have their customs.
I respect that.
And I refrain from being critical of Linux users also.
Very easy to get along with.

Aside from the gaming inadequacy, much comes down to individual
inclination to tinker and accept risk.


are you talking about the inherent risk in attaching a Windows computer
to the Internet? Or "tinkering" with Vista to get it to recognize your
two year old peripherals?

Search the internet for "linux vulnerabilities."

Remember "IBM compatible" and
"Hayes compatible"? Always followed those "standards" when they were in
effect, and never experienced the endless futzing around and plain
inoperability suffered by others.


FUD, when those terms were current, those were the _only_ standards.

And some didn't follow them. You probably weren't around then.
There are always dimestore hardware/software solutions.
I've repaired many of them.
Not saying Linux is dimestore, of course. Don't mean to imply that.
Just wouldn't do that. No way.
I AM NOT A MIRCROSOFT SNOB!!!!!!
I love the idea of Linux.
Because I'm so very idealistic.

Not worth saving a few bucks to me.
MS is my OS standard. Pretty painless. And widely "discounted."


and rightly so... take www.cert.org for instance...no shortage of isses
there, but you keep on keepin' on there painless...crackers _love_ the
sheeple

Not quite sure what all that means. Can you link it up with the
Trilateral Commission and the International Zionist Conspiracy to help
me out with context?



You left out the Twin Towers mining by "government agents" and the
second shooter in Dallas.... :-)

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok March 20th 09 02:42 AM

OT but very useful...
 
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:49:39 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:15:56 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:



Seemed like a simple problem, but the more I looked the more problems
I had. I found a lot of applications on sourceforge but most of them
wouldn't compile as apparently I don't have the right lib files. I
fought that problem a few hours and finally gave up, at least for a
while. The last straw was a program that demanded a lib file that was
outdated, something like lib.6.0 and all I had, or could find, was
lib.10.0 and it wouldn't work.

I'm down on the boat for a while and will live with what I've got but
when I get back home I'll get after it again.

Sounds like a plan, Bruce. Probably won't take more than a few more
days work - this week, anyway.
I admire your stick-to-it-iveness.
Have fun!

--Vic



No, "this week" was scheduled to bond in new ports in the aft cabin.
Removed the old plastic windows and frames. Ground down the outside of
the cabin sides smooth and free of old paint and damaged gelcoat,
primed with 2 part primer, refinished the inside paneling, cut the
windows and drilled all bolt holes, masked and cleaned all surfaces.

Only to discover that there was no Sikaflex 295 UV left in Thailand
and new supplies are expected in "a couple of weeks".....

"Bruce in Bangkok with garbage bags taped over the gaping holes in his
boat."

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Wilbur Hubbard March 20th 09 03:04 AM

OT but very useful...
 
"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:49:39 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:15:56 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:



Seemed like a simple problem, but the more I looked the more problems
I had. I found a lot of applications on sourceforge but most of them
wouldn't compile as apparently I don't have the right lib files. I
fought that problem a few hours and finally gave up, at least for a
while. The last straw was a program that demanded a lib file that was
outdated, something like lib.6.0 and all I had, or could find, was
lib.10.0 and it wouldn't work.

I'm down on the boat for a while and will live with what I've got but
when I get back home I'll get after it again.

Sounds like a plan, Bruce. Probably won't take more than a few more
days work - this week, anyway.
I admire your stick-to-it-iveness.
Have fun!

--Vic



No, "this week" was scheduled to bond in new ports in the aft cabin.
Removed the old plastic windows and frames. Ground down the outside of
the cabin sides smooth and free of old paint and damaged gelcoat,
primed with 2 part primer, refinished the inside paneling, cut the
windows and drilled all bolt holes, masked and cleaned all surfaces.

Only to discover that there was no Sikaflex 295 UV left in Thailand
and new supplies are expected in "a couple of weeks".....

"Bruce in Bangkok with garbage bags taped over the gaping holes in his
boat."

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)




Are you related to Skip Gundlach by any chance?

Wilbur Hubbard



Bruce In Bangkok March 20th 09 04:31 AM

OT but very useful...
 
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:02:11 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:15:56 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:



What I want is a simple disk based dictionary - type the word, hit
return and get a description. Seemed simple enough, I had a program
called Word Web running in Windows that even had a hot key to activate
it. Good database of words.

Seemed like a simple problem, but the more I looked the more problems I
had. I found a lot of applications on sourceforge but most of them
wouldn't compile as apparently I don't have the right lib files. I
fought that problem a few hours and finally gave up, at least for a
while. The last straw was a program that demanded a lib file that was
outdated, something like lib.6.0 and all I had, or could find, was
lib.10.0 and it wouldn't work.

I'm down on the boat for a while and will live with what I've got but
when I get back home I'll get after it again.


Ubuntu, it's a piece of cake. No need to search for libraries. Just
type in a terminal as root, apt-get install dictd dict-gcide dict-moby-
thesaurus and make sure /etc/dictd/dict.conf has "server localhost" at
the top of the servers.

dictd is the server, and dict-gcide will give you a Websters dictionary.
If I'm not mistaken gnome-dictionary will pickup on the server
automatically. If you want to add any additional dictionaries, pick what
you want from he

http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/text/

Make sure it's from the dict section. You shouldn't have any problems,
but if you do, don't hesitate to ask. I've been running Debian for
years, and Ubuntu is Debian based.


Inveterate tinkerers, the lot of you. You aren't happy unless you're
tweaking your OS or interface, delving into machine language and making that
CPU get up and dance the tune that you are piping.

God love ya. :-)



Almost as much fun as climbing the mast to change the light bulb,
pumping bilges, re-doing the bottom paint and all those "boating
chores :-)

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok March 20th 09 04:39 AM

OT but very useful...
 
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:50:53 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:51:07 +0000, Larry wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

One of the reasons that I do not read or write to the Linux sites is
that they are full of zealots that interpret any post except a paean
of phrase to Linux as derogatory and they attack feverishly.



They sound like Apple fanbois. iPhone fanbois are a rabid group,
too....great fun to pick on, though...(c;]


The last Apple I had was an Apple ][ so I am not up to speed on the
subject but I know that the Apple users can be a loyal bunch - a
friend is a Civil Engineering consultant on a project in Taiwan. He
gets all the drawings in Auto-Cad format and has to use some sort of
translator so that he can view them on his Apple lap-top. I asked him
why not get a Windows machine for the project and got a 30 minute
lecture about Apples...

Me, I use whatever works.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



Just got an iPhone. It's a damn nice piece of equipment. Surf the web,
answer email, get directions. Hard to beat.


A nice bit of kit. I had a Sony-Eriksson that would do that and
replaced it with a Nokia but I find that surfing the web is a bit
tedious with the small screen and keying in an e-mail letter by letter
also gets old after a while.

I was in the hospital for five days a few months ago and did stay in
contact with friends during the stay but other then that I don't think
I ever used the capability. What I do like is the ability to save
information so you always have for example, your Passport details, or
the part number for the printer on the boat's ink cartridges, or,
"what was that my wife wanted me to get?"

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok March 20th 09 04:39 AM

OT but very useful...
 
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:08:00 +0100, "Edgar"
wrote:


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
ions...
Just got an iPhone. It's a damn nice piece of equipment. Surf the web,
answer email, get directions. Hard to beat.


How big is your screen?
Mine is 21 inches



You need sharper eyes...
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Capt. JG March 20th 09 04:52 AM

OT but very useful...
 
"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:50:53 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:51:07 +0000, Larry wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
m:

One of the reasons that I do not read or write to the Linux sites is
that they are full of zealots that interpret any post except a paean
of phrase to Linux as derogatory and they attack feverishly.



They sound like Apple fanbois. iPhone fanbois are a rabid group,
too....great fun to pick on, though...(c;]

The last Apple I had was an Apple ][ so I am not up to speed on the
subject but I know that the Apple users can be a loyal bunch - a
friend is a Civil Engineering consultant on a project in Taiwan. He
gets all the drawings in Auto-Cad format and has to use some sort of
translator so that he can view them on his Apple lap-top. I asked him
why not get a Windows machine for the project and got a 30 minute
lecture about Apples...

Me, I use whatever works.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



Just got an iPhone. It's a damn nice piece of equipment. Surf the web,
answer email, get directions. Hard to beat.


A nice bit of kit. I had a Sony-Eriksson that would do that and
replaced it with a Nokia but I find that surfing the web is a bit
tedious with the small screen and keying in an e-mail letter by letter
also gets old after a while.

I was in the hospital for five days a few months ago and did stay in
contact with friends during the stay but other then that I don't think
I ever used the capability. What I do like is the ability to save
information so you always have for example, your Passport details, or
the part number for the printer on the boat's ink cartridges, or,
"what was that my wife wanted me to get?"

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



I don't use it much for typing. I have my entire calendar and contact list
on it - syncs with the program on my main system. I can get at google
docs/calendar/etc. I haven't used it for directions yet, but it seems
super-slick for that. There are a bunch of free apps. One that's cool is
Shazam. You hold the phone up to a song that's playing on the radio and it
identifies the tune.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Bruce In Bangkok March 20th 09 05:17 AM

OT but very useful...
 
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:50:16 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:15:56 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:



What I want is a simple disk based dictionary - type the word, hit
return and get a description. Seemed simple enough, I had a program
called Word Web running in Windows that even had a hot key to activate
it. Good database of words.

Seemed like a simple problem, but the more I looked the more problems I
had. I found a lot of applications on sourceforge but most of them
wouldn't compile as apparently I don't have the right lib files. I
fought that problem a few hours and finally gave up, at least for a
while. The last straw was a program that demanded a lib file that was
outdated, something like lib.6.0 and all I had, or could find, was
lib.10.0 and it wouldn't work.

I'm down on the boat for a while and will live with what I've got but
when I get back home I'll get after it again.


Ubuntu, it's a piece of cake. No need to search for libraries. Just
type in a terminal as root, apt-get install dictd dict-gcide dict-moby-
thesaurus and make sure /etc/dictd/dict.conf has "server localhost" at
the top of the servers.

dictd is the server, and dict-gcide will give you a Websters dictionary.
If I'm not mistaken gnome-dictionary will pickup on the server
automatically. If you want to add any additional dictionaries, pick what
you want from he

http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/text/

Make sure it's from the dict section. You shouldn't have any problems,
but if you do, don't hesitate to ask. I've been running Debian for
years, and Ubuntu is Debian based.



I did as you suggest and now have another dictionary called OpenDict
0.6.3 that I will try. Thanks.

A moment later.

This thing downloaded something like 26K and doesn't have a dictionary
database, Just the application. Tried to use it and it sneers "No
dictionary".

Back to the drawing board.

But thanks anyway.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok March 20th 09 05:20 AM

OT but very useful...
 
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:28:34 +0000, Larry wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

Me, I use whatever works.



ALWAYS but the system that runs the SOFTWARE, not the other way around.


I think you have that backward. You select the application (software)
and then install the system that runs it.

Remember the old days when all the graphics guys used only Apple?
Because Apple really did have the best of the early graphics software.


Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok March 20th 09 05:26 AM

OT but very useful...
 
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:52:59 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:50:53 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:51:07 +0000, Larry wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
om:

One of the reasons that I do not read or write to the Linux sites is
that they are full of zealots that interpret any post except a paean
of phrase to Linux as derogatory and they attack feverishly.



They sound like Apple fanbois. iPhone fanbois are a rabid group,
too....great fun to pick on, though...(c;]

The last Apple I had was an Apple ][ so I am not up to speed on the
subject but I know that the Apple users can be a loyal bunch - a
friend is a Civil Engineering consultant on a project in Taiwan. He
gets all the drawings in Auto-Cad format and has to use some sort of
translator so that he can view them on his Apple lap-top. I asked him
why not get a Windows machine for the project and got a 30 minute
lecture about Apples...

Me, I use whatever works.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Just got an iPhone. It's a damn nice piece of equipment. Surf the web,
answer email, get directions. Hard to beat.


A nice bit of kit. I had a Sony-Eriksson that would do that and
replaced it with a Nokia but I find that surfing the web is a bit
tedious with the small screen and keying in an e-mail letter by letter
also gets old after a while.

I was in the hospital for five days a few months ago and did stay in
contact with friends during the stay but other then that I don't think
I ever used the capability. What I do like is the ability to save
information so you always have for example, your Passport details, or
the part number for the printer on the boat's ink cartridges, or,
"what was that my wife wanted me to get?"

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



I don't use it much for typing. I have my entire calendar and contact list
on it - syncs with the program on my main system. I can get at google
docs/calendar/etc. I haven't used it for directions yet, but it seems
super-slick for that. There are a bunch of free apps. One that's cool is
Shazam. You hold the phone up to a song that's playing on the radio and it
identifies the tune.


I've got a GPS on the Nokia. works great and even has Thai maps on it
(well, I bought it in Thailand :-) but other then a conversation piece
it really isn't much use as the screen is so small that by the time
you see your turnoff on the phone you are just passing it on the road.

I suspect that it really depends on how one uses it but to my mind
many of the FEATURES are just added cuteness that really doesn't
contribute much to real usefulness.


Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

thunder March 20th 09 10:45 AM

OT but very useful...
 
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:17:05 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


This thing downloaded something like 26K and doesn't have a dictionary
database, Just the application. Tried to use it and it sneers "No
dictionary".


OK, I'm not familiar with OpenDict, but if you downloaded dictd and dict-
gcide we'll have a winner. In Bassi's Dictionary, the one you had been
trying to use, click on Edit-Preferences. It should pop-up to source.
Make sure localhost is selected. If, localhost isn't there, click on
add. Description should be localhost, transport should be dictionary
server, and hostname should be localhost. Leave the port alone.

The other possibility, the server isn't running. In a terminal, type ps
ax |grep dictd If dictd doesn't show up, type as root, /etc/init.d/dictd
start That really should do it. Let me know how you make out.

Bruce In Bangkok March 20th 09 12:40 PM

OT but very useful...
 
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:45:08 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:17:05 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


This thing downloaded something like 26K and doesn't have a dictionary
database, Just the application. Tried to use it and it sneers "No
dictionary".


OK, I'm not familiar with OpenDict, but if you downloaded dictd and dict-
gcide we'll have a winner. In Bassi's Dictionary, the one you had been
trying to use, click on Edit-Preferences. It should pop-up to source.
Make sure localhost is selected. If, localhost isn't there, click on
add. Description should be localhost, transport should be dictionary
server, and hostname should be localhost. Leave the port alone.


ps -ax = server running
Click on edit.preference = default dictionary server
click on +add - added localhost (as above)

Eureka! works

Thanks much.

The other possibility, the server isn't running. In a terminal, type ps
ax |grep dictd If dictd doesn't show up, type as root, /etc/init.d/dictd
start That really should do it. Let me know how you make out.


amazing the amount of information one can get in this group, isn't it?
:-)

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Larry March 20th 09 03:56 PM

OT but very useful...
 
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

I think you have that backward. You select the application (software)
and then install the system that runs it.



Sorry. That's what I meant. You don't buy the computer that doesn't run
what you want. But, alas, millions of Apple owners do.....


thunder March 20th 09 04:14 PM

OT but very useful...
 
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:40:18 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:



Eureka! works


Great! Now find yourself an English-Thai dictionary, and have at it. I
don't use Fedora, but it has a similar program to apt-get. It's called
yum. The process will be quite similar, but I don't have the specifics
on that.

Good luck!

Capt. JG March 20th 09 06:14 PM

OT but very useful...
 
"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:52:59 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:50:53 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:51:07 +0000, Larry wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
news:6g33s4ttpkpv0omrovrt0pe98laed7phik@4ax. com:

One of the reasons that I do not read or write to the Linux sites is
that they are full of zealots that interpret any post except a paean
of phrase to Linux as derogatory and they attack feverishly.



They sound like Apple fanbois. iPhone fanbois are a rabid group,
too....great fun to pick on, though...(c;]

The last Apple I had was an Apple ][ so I am not up to speed on the
subject but I know that the Apple users can be a loyal bunch - a
friend is a Civil Engineering consultant on a project in Taiwan. He
gets all the drawings in Auto-Cad format and has to use some sort of
translator so that he can view them on his Apple lap-top. I asked him
why not get a Windows machine for the project and got a 30 minute
lecture about Apples...

Me, I use whatever works.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Just got an iPhone. It's a damn nice piece of equipment. Surf the web,
answer email, get directions. Hard to beat.

A nice bit of kit. I had a Sony-Eriksson that would do that and
replaced it with a Nokia but I find that surfing the web is a bit
tedious with the small screen and keying in an e-mail letter by letter
also gets old after a while.

I was in the hospital for five days a few months ago and did stay in
contact with friends during the stay but other then that I don't think
I ever used the capability. What I do like is the ability to save
information so you always have for example, your Passport details, or
the part number for the printer on the boat's ink cartridges, or,
"what was that my wife wanted me to get?"

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



I don't use it much for typing. I have my entire calendar and contact list
on it - syncs with the program on my main system. I can get at google
docs/calendar/etc. I haven't used it for directions yet, but it seems
super-slick for that. There are a bunch of free apps. One that's cool is
Shazam. You hold the phone up to a song that's playing on the radio and it
identifies the tune.


I've got a GPS on the Nokia. works great and even has Thai maps on it
(well, I bought it in Thailand :-) but other then a conversation piece
it really isn't much use as the screen is so small that by the time
you see your turnoff on the phone you are just passing it on the road.

I suspect that it really depends on how one uses it but to my mind
many of the FEATURES are just added cuteness that really doesn't
contribute much to real usefulness.


Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



I just downloaded a free app that works like a level. I get the NY Times
pushed to the phone every hour. I can also use it like a touch screen for my
computer instead of the mouse. Sure... lots of "cuteness" but some of it is
very cool tool.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG March 20th 09 06:14 PM

OT but very useful...
 
"Larry" wrote in message
...
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

I think you have that backward. You select the application (software)
and then install the system that runs it.



Sorry. That's what I meant. You don't buy the computer that doesn't run
what you want. But, alas, millions of Apple owners do.....



Name a program that doesn't work on an Apple.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Justin C[_17_] March 20th 09 06:38 PM

OT but very useful...
 
In article , Larry wrote:
You don't buy the computer that doesn't run
what you want. But, alas, millions of Apple owners do.....


We do? What software do I want to run that I can't? I'm sure if there
was something I wanted I'd know about it!

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

Mark Borgerson March 20th 09 07:20 PM

OT but very useful...
 
In article lutions,
lid says...
"Larry" wrote in message
...
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

I think you have that backward. You select the application (software)
and then install the system that runs it.



Sorry. That's what I meant. You don't buy the computer that doesn't run
what you want. But, alas, millions of Apple owners do.....



Name a program that doesn't work on an Apple.

Pretty much anything that requires a hardware paralell port.
For some applications, a USB-connected parallel port won't work.
The applications that I have that require a parallel port
are generally programming and debugging systems for
microcomputers.

Mark Borgerson


Capt. JG March 20th 09 07:38 PM

OT but very useful...
 
"Mark Borgerson" wrote in message
g...
In article lutions,
lid says...
"Larry" wrote in message
...
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

I think you have that backward. You select the application (software)
and then install the system that runs it.



Sorry. That's what I meant. You don't buy the computer that doesn't
run
what you want. But, alas, millions of Apple owners do.....



Name a program that doesn't work on an Apple.

Pretty much anything that requires a hardware paralell port.
For some applications, a USB-connected parallel port won't work.
The applications that I have that require a parallel port
are generally programming and debugging systems for
microcomputers.

Mark Borgerson



Well, ok. But how many end-users really need any of what you're talking
about... very, very few. I work with several different systems/OS. There are
always hardware issues, but few software issues between MacOS and Windows.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Bruce In Bangkok March 21st 09 01:03 AM

OT but very useful...
 
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:56:00 +0000, Larry wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

I think you have that backward. You select the application (software)
and then install the system that runs it.



Sorry. That's what I meant. You don't buy the computer that doesn't run
what you want. But, alas, millions of Apple owners do.....



Ah, but the cachet of NOT using MS.

Funny. Back in the days when MS was known for making the Z-80 card so
you could plug one in and run CP/M software they were good guys. We
ran the whole company on Apple ]['s and Z-80 cards at one time.

Now that they are a real success they are "bad guys".
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok March 21st 09 01:10 AM

OT but very useful...
 
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:14:42 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:40:18 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:



Eureka! works


Great! Now find yourself an English-Thai dictionary, and have at it. I
don't use Fedora, but it has a similar program to apt-get. It's called
yum. The process will be quite similar, but I don't have the specifics
on that.

Good luck!


I know how to use yum and get-apt. what I didn't know was the secret
name of the dictionary utility.
:-)

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok March 21st 09 01:13 AM

OT but very useful...
 
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:14:51 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Larry" wrote in message
.. .
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

I think you have that backward. You select the application (software)
and then install the system that runs it.



Sorry. That's what I meant. You don't buy the computer that doesn't run
what you want. But, alas, millions of Apple owners do.....



Name a program that doesn't work on an Apple.


CMAP ECM.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok March 21st 09 10:42 AM

OT but very useful...
 
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:14:19 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:
snipped



I just downloaded a free app that works like a level. I get the NY Times
pushed to the phone every hour. I can also use it like a touch screen for my
computer instead of the mouse. Sure... lots of "cuteness" but some of it is
very cool tool.


The push stuff is nice. I wish I could get that here.

Cuteness or cool depends on the user I think.
I seldom text but in Singapore you see kids hanging on a strap in the
subway, talking with their friends and typing text messages with their
thumb faster then I can type with both hands.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Larry March 21st 09 01:21 PM

OT but very useful...
 
"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

Name a program that doesn't work on an Apple.



Maemo Mapper
Xournal
55,800 Palm programs
millions of Linux programs
millions of Windows programs.

Don't tell me about Wine. It's **** compared to XP running on a really
fast Windows box.

Owning an Apple has always been like owning a bike with training wheels you
can't take off.

Visit any software store and count the Apple programs in the back corner of
the Windows Store. Wonder why the whole store isn't full of Apple programs
with a tiny section in the back of Windows programs.

Visit tucows.com, download.com and compare the shareware available.

You'd have to be completely blind and crazy NOT to see the difference.....


Larry March 21st 09 01:22 PM

OT but very useful...
 
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

Name a program that doesn't work on an Apple.


CMAP ECM.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



The Cap'N nav software....just to be on topic...(c;]


Larry March 21st 09 01:26 PM

OT but very useful...
 
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

Funny. Back in the days when MS was known for making the Z-80 card so
you could plug one in and run CP/M software they were good guys. We
ran the whole company on Apple ]['s and Z-80 cards at one time.



In the days before the PC/DOS, I used to sell Ohio Scientific computers.
Our business model had 6502, Z80 and 6800 processors you could select to
run all the software currently available on whatever OS you liked. CP/M
ran great.

It was also the first commercial microcomputer with a real hard drive, a
74MB, 14" platter monster from the minicomputers of the day. 74MB was an
unheardof landscape of real fast storage. Our OS was called OS-65U and ran
an extended BASIC on the 6502 processor, the best of the three.

Then IBM decided none of the rest of us needed to be in business and that
was pretty much the end of it.....


Vic Smith March 21st 09 01:58 PM

OT but very useful...
 
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:21:15 +0000, Larry wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote in
reasolutions:

Name a program that doesn't work on an Apple.



Maemo Mapper
Xournal
55,800 Palm programs
millions of Linux programs
millions of Windows programs.

Don't tell me about Wine. It's **** compared to XP running on a really
fast Windows box.

Owning an Apple has always been like owning a bike with training wheels you
can't take off.

Visit any software store and count the Apple programs in the back corner of
the Windows Store. Wonder why the whole store isn't full of Apple programs
with a tiny section in the back of Windows programs.

Visit tucows.com, download.com and compare the shareware available.

You'd have to be completely blind and crazy NOT to see the difference.....


I think there is something called Boot Camp that allows Apple PCs to
run Windows apps. Think Apple also went from Motorola to Intel chips.
Not clear on it, since I have always used MS/Intel, and never cared.
No sense fighting about it or telling people what to use.
If it suits them, fine. If it doesn't, they can change.
Apple salesmen won't agree, however.

--Vic

thunder March 21st 09 03:14 PM

OT but very useful...
 
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:58:04 -0600, Vic Smith wrote:


I think there is something called Boot Camp that allows Apple PCs to run
Windows apps.


It's my understanding that Boot Camp allows Apple PCs to run the Windows
OS, and along with it, Windows apps. Apples, at least some of them, are
now Intel based, but, apparently, run a different BIOS that Windows
doesn't support. Boot Camp just allows you to dual boot. There is also
Parallels, which will run Windows inside a virtual machine, so you can
run the Mac OS and Windows at the same time.


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