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cleepq February 12th 09 08:30 PM

LPG problem: regulator, solenoid - or both??
 
My propane stove works for about 20 minutes and then the gas supply
just dies. After 10 minutes, it works again but the same thing
happens. Is this likely to be the regulator or the solenoid? The
boat is a Beneateau 311, built 2000 - and I am sure that the LPG
system is the original unit. Any help/guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks.

Capt. JG February 12th 09 08:43 PM

LPG problem: regulator, solenoid - or both??
 
"cleepq" wrote in message
...
My propane stove works for about 20 minutes and then the gas supply
just dies. After 10 minutes, it works again but the same thing
happens. Is this likely to be the regulator or the solenoid? The
boat is a Beneateau 311, built 2000 - and I am sure that the LPG
system is the original unit. Any help/guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks.



Sounds like an over-heating problem... taking 10 minutes to cool down.

I would guess regulator... I'm assuming the solenoid light stays on when all
this happens?

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Steve Lusardi February 13th 09 05:53 PM

LPG problem: regulator, solenoid - or both??
 
Your first problem is LPG.... In a boat it is bomb just waiting to go off.
Use CNG, it is lighter than air. LPG is not.
Steve

"cleepq" wrote in message
...
My propane stove works for about 20 minutes and then the gas supply
just dies. After 10 minutes, it works again but the same thing
happens. Is this likely to be the regulator or the solenoid? The
boat is a Beneateau 311, built 2000 - and I am sure that the LPG
system is the original unit. Any help/guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks.




Wayne.B February 13th 09 06:00 PM

LPG problem: regulator, solenoid - or both??
 
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:53:44 +0100, "Steve Lusardi"
wrote:

Your first problem is LPG.... In a boat it is bomb just waiting to go off.
Use CNG, it is lighter than air. LPG is not.


True but CNG is difficult or impossible to obtain in many (most)
areas. Propane is available just about everywhere and is quite safe
when installed and used properly. On boats with reliable generators I
prefer electric stoves.


Capt. JG February 13th 09 06:04 PM

LPG problem: regulator, solenoid - or both??
 
"Steve Lusardi" wrote in message
...
Your first problem is LPG.... In a boat it is bomb just waiting to go off.
Use CNG, it is lighter than air. LPG is not.
Steve

"cleepq" wrote in message
...
My propane stove works for about 20 minutes and then the gas supply
just dies. After 10 minutes, it works again but the same thing
happens. Is this likely to be the regulator or the solenoid? The
boat is a Beneateau 311, built 2000 - and I am sure that the LPG
system is the original unit. Any help/guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks.





A bit more hard to find though...

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www.sailnow.com




Richard Casady February 13th 09 10:25 PM

LPG problem: regulator, solenoid - or both??
 
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:53:44 +0100, "Steve Lusardi"
wrote:

Your first problem is LPG.... In a boat it is bomb just waiting to go off.
Use CNG, it is lighter than air. LPG is not.


Gasoline vapor is heavier than air, the historic reason many have had
for useing Diesel. I saw a boat that had had a gasoline explosion. A
glass boat, the deck hull joint had failed, among other things. Wonder
it didn't burn to the water line. Boat was Diesel, but the dingy was
not. You can't get the 28 HP Yanmar Diesel , that dingy wise is
suitable for a twenty foot tender for a megayacht. Over three hundred
pounds. You have you have have a propane locker with an outside door,
vented overboard, and with a shutoff valve operated from the stove by
remote control. I had a propane furnace and there was a thousand
gallons in the tank. The plumbing didn't have to contend with the hull
flexing in the waves. Houses blow up from natural gas regularly. When
it happens you can often hear it for miles.

There is a lot to be said for CNG and for a generator and electric
stove. Some have a propane grill on the stern rail and do all their
cooking, making coffee. Keeps the moisture out of the cabin. And it's
safe.

It is snowing heavily here. Not a blizzard, no wind. We have 4wd to
get to the plowed street without having to shovel the drive. When it
comes to getting out of the ditch after you slide off the road, a
shovel is surefire and 4wd is not, but it helps. A Unimog with chains
is good. Mine doesn't run.

Casady

Steve Lusardi February 14th 09 09:58 AM

LPG problem: regulator, solenoid - or both??
 
After reading my first comment, it might be considered a bit impolite and
that was not my intention. LPG, CNG or gasoline is really convenient, but it
truly is very dangerous. It is virtually impossible to make any of them safe
if any part of the system is below deck. For that reason, I carry only
Diesel and use only electric below deck. If gasoline must be used for an
outboard, then it must be carried on deck.
Steve

"Steve Lusardi" wrote in message
...
Your first problem is LPG.... In a boat it is bomb just waiting to go off.
Use CNG, it is lighter than air. LPG is not.
Steve

"cleepq" wrote in message
...
My propane stove works for about 20 minutes and then the gas supply
just dies. After 10 minutes, it works again but the same thing
happens. Is this likely to be the regulator or the solenoid? The
boat is a Beneateau 311, built 2000 - and I am sure that the LPG
system is the original unit. Any help/guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks.






IanM[_2_] February 14th 09 11:17 AM

LPG problem: regulator, solenoid - or both??
 
Steve Lusardi wrote:
After reading my first comment, it might be considered a bit impolite and
that was not my intention. LPG, CNG or gasoline is really convenient, but it
truly is very dangerous. It is virtually impossible to make any of them safe
if any part of the system is below deck. For that reason, I carry only
Diesel and use only electric below deck. If gasoline must be used for an
outboard, then it must be carried on deck.
Steve

And how many aerosol cans and bottles of volatile solvents do you have
aboard? They are all potential bombs in an enclosed space.

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Steve Lusardi February 14th 09 12:05 PM

LPG problem: regulator, solenoid - or both??
 
None
Steve
"IanM" wrote in message
...
Steve Lusardi wrote:
After reading my first comment, it might be considered a bit impolite and
that was not my intention. LPG, CNG or gasoline is really convenient, but
it truly is very dangerous. It is virtually impossible to make any of
them safe if any part of the system is below deck. For that reason, I
carry only Diesel and use only electric below deck. If gasoline must be
used for an outboard, then it must be carried on deck.
Steve

And how many aerosol cans and bottles of volatile solvents do you have
aboard? They are all potential bombs in an enclosed space.

--
Ian Malcolm. London, ENGLAND. (NEWSGROUP REPLY PREFERRED)
ianm[at]the[dash]malcolms[dot]freeserve[dot]co[dot]uk
[at]=@, [dash]=- & [dot]=. *Warning* HTML & 32K emails -- NUL:




Bruce in Bangkok[_10_] February 14th 09 12:11 PM

LPG problem: regulator, solenoid - or both??
 
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 11:17:49 +0000, IanM
wrote:

Steve Lusardi wrote:
After reading my first comment, it might be considered a bit impolite and
that was not my intention. LPG, CNG or gasoline is really convenient, but it
truly is very dangerous. It is virtually impossible to make any of them safe
if any part of the system is below deck. For that reason, I carry only
Diesel and use only electric below deck. If gasoline must be used for an
outboard, then it must be carried on deck.
Steve

And how many aerosol cans and bottles of volatile solvents do you have
aboard? They are all potential bombs in an enclosed space.



Exactly. A great many airosols are using deoderized propane as the
propellant. Which is why the instructions tell you not to throw in a
fire. Alchole? A vaper pressure lower then gasoline. Heck, you can
even drown in any water over, say 7 feet.

One might even say that boating is enherantly dangerious.....

Cheers,

Bruce


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