KLC Lewis wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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This would work if only they didn't believe they are being attacked just
by the fact of the US and Israels existence. They have said so many times.
Our only out, according to them is for us to convert to Islam.

Stephen


That is the position of the merest fraction of the militant extremists. Even
amongst the militant extremists, the majority simply want the West out of
their lands.

I don't know what fraction it is, but the ones who demand we convert to
Islam are the ones we are fighting. Bin Laden said exactly that in one
of his last messages. As far as getting out of their lands, its not just
us they want out, it's free government. Tyrannical philosophies like
theirs require tyrannical governments in order to survive and they know
it. Opposing arguments (free speech) can't be allowed because they will
result in people realizing the truth of their oppression, so almost all
freedom must be stamped out.

The West invaded the Middle East for oil. Prior to the early 20th century,
the West had little interest in the Middle East, other than for mutual,
consentual trade. And even in the first half of the 20th century, the money
which oil brought into the Middle East was considered fair compensation for
our presence there. Until Western influence and ideals began to seriously
conflict with core Muslim beliefs.

Well I already anticipated this argument and addressed it before you
said it. Why did we invade Afghanistan then? And when you realize you
can't answer that, tag on the follow up question: Why are we still there
sacrificing American lives for the sake of establishing a democracy?

The militant extremists will always consider Western presence in Muslim
lands to be an occupation of those lands. When we put military might into
those lands, we only further this belief. "We will stop raping you when you
stop resisting." In what sane world does the one being raped not have the
right to resist?

Of course, most of the Afghanies hate the Taliban. They know the
brutality that comes with them. Most Afghanies want a democracy and want
the US to succeed in helping them establish that. The Taliban strategy
is the same one all Muslim extremists are using nowadays. Bomb, kill and
terrorize so many innocent citizens that they wish for the relative
safety of the brutal Taliban government instead of terrorism. And you
think the US should go ahead and let that happen? Weren't you just
saying that you agreed the US should stop them?

Stephen