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Was walking down the dock yesterday and passed a small boat in one of the slips, see: http://www.meder.hu/photogallery/dis...up&cat=0&pos=2 Got to talking with the guy and discovered that he has sailed to boat from the Adriatic across the Atlantic, through the canal, out through the islands and all the way to Thailand. about a 2.5 year trip so far and when he leaves here he is headed for either Sirilanka or India and on to Oman and then the Red Sea. The guy is a pleasant young chap and we had quite a long talk about all kinds of things but sufficient to say he is not one of Larry's "white shoe" yachtsmen. Just a regular guy, not much money and just doing his thing. Sailing around the world. When you meet a bloke like this it really makes one wonder about the people who believe that a big boat is needed for cruising, or that one needs the latest in electronic stuff or communications equipment. One solar panel, one KISS wind generator, one 9 HP outboard, one GPS and one Tiller Pilot. Get in and go. Rather then describe the boat and owner have a look at www.meder.hu for the guy's website. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
... Was walking down the dock yesterday and passed a small boat in one of the slips, see: http://www.meder.hu/photogallery/dis...up&cat=0&pos=2 Got to talking with the guy and discovered that he has sailed to boat from the Adriatic across the Atlantic, through the canal, out through the islands and all the way to Thailand. about a 2.5 year trip so far and when he leaves here he is headed for either Sirilanka or India and on to Oman and then the Red Sea. The guy is a pleasant young chap and we had quite a long talk about all kinds of things but sufficient to say he is not one of Larry's "white shoe" yachtsmen. Just a regular guy, not much money and just doing his thing. Sailing around the world. When you meet a bloke like this it really makes one wonder about the people who believe that a big boat is needed for cruising, or that one needs the latest in electronic stuff or communications equipment. One solar panel, one KISS wind generator, one 9 HP outboard, one GPS and one Tiller Pilot. Get in and go. Rather then describe the boat and owner have a look at www.meder.hu for the guy's website. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) I don't know what defines a big boat. Some people define it as 30 feet. While I could probably do this sort of thing with my Sabre 30, it would be cramped with another person, certainly with three more. For me, a 40 footer is a "big boat." In any case, he's out there doing it, which counts for more than most of us can claim. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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What's the big black boat across the fairway in the picture?
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:33:41 -0500, katy
wrote: What's the big black boat across the fairway in the picture? That is a "Junk". The inverted commas are because it is really just a semi-traditional hull with a big engine and junk type fully battened sails. It is a day cruise charter boat and is quite successful, going out nearly every day with, say 10 - 30 passengers. The sails are only for show, they haul them up in the morning and they are small enough that in any wind short of a hurricane they can stay up and not impede the boat which motors all the time. Apparently it is quite a good trip as I have heard the tourists coming off the boat enthusing over what a nice day they have had. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:33:41 -0500, katy wrote: What's the big black boat across the fairway in the picture? That is a "Junk". The inverted commas are because it is really just a semi-traditional hull with a big engine and junk type fully battened sails. It is a day cruise charter boat and is quite successful, going out nearly every day with, say 10 - 30 passengers. The sails are only for show, they haul them up in the morning and they are small enough that in any wind short of a hurricane they can stay up and not impede the boat which motors all the time. Apparently it is quite a good trip as I have heard the tourists coming off the boat enthusing over what a nice day they have had. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) hahahaha...we have the tourists here who say the same thing when they get off the charter cruise ...she does put up her sails and turn off the rngine but we have pretty tame sailing here and they all think they've been out in a gale! Once in a while one of the time share peeps will wander down to the docks trying to get private boats to take them out for a fee...we all point to the charter boat...they really aren't interested in hearing about licensing and captaincy etc... |
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Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
Was walking down the dock yesterday and passed a small boat in one of the slips, see: http://www.meder.hu/photogallery/dis...up&cat=0&pos=2 Got to talking with the guy and discovered that he has sailed to boat from the Adriatic across the Atlantic, through the canal, out through the islands and all the way to Thailand. about a 2.5 year trip so far and when he leaves here he is headed for either Sirilanka or India and on to Oman and then the Red Sea. Is he a fairly big guy from South Africa? I met a guy in So Fl who had a boat which looked quite a bit like that. His intention was to either sail around South America or through the Canal and back to South Africa by way of the Pacific. |
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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote
www.meder.hu "Sailing Alone Around the World with Carina (19ft boat)" Fascinating site. Thanks. |
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:12:05 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: I don't know what defines a big boat. I have a 22 ft alum fish/ski. It has a great deal of freeboard, sail area, if you like, and it is big when you are trying to get it from the trailer to the dock. There are 24 or even longer boats that catch less wind, but its docking it unaided what makes it big. It _is_ bigger than nearly all the local boats. Casady |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:39:20 -0500, katy
wrote: Bruce In Bangkok wrote: On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:33:41 -0500, katy wrote: What's the big black boat across the fairway in the picture? That is a "Junk". The inverted commas are because it is really just a semi-traditional hull with a big engine and junk type fully battened sails. It is a day cruise charter boat and is quite successful, going out nearly every day with, say 10 - 30 passengers. The sails are only for show, they haul them up in the morning and they are small enough that in any wind short of a hurricane they can stay up and not impede the boat which motors all the time. Apparently it is quite a good trip as I have heard the tourists coming off the boat enthusing over what a nice day they have had. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) hahahaha...we have the tourists here who say the same thing when they get off the charter cruise ...she does put up her sails and turn off the rngine but we have pretty tame sailing here and they all think they've been out in a gale! Once in a while one of the time share peeps will wander down to the docks trying to get private boats to take them out for a fee...we all point to the charter boat...they really aren't interested in hearing about licensing and captaincy etc... Well, to be honest, it is not a "sailing cruise" it is more of a sight seeing cruise. They visit the Sea Gypsy village, eat in a "Thai Restaurant on an island, and I don't know what else, but apparently it is successful. As I said they are out nearly every day with a load of paying customers and they have been operating for more then ten years, to my knowledge. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:32:15 -0700, slide
wrote: Bruce In Bangkok wrote: Was walking down the dock yesterday and passed a small boat in one of the slips, see: http://www.meder.hu/photogallery/dis...up&cat=0&pos=2 Got to talking with the guy and discovered that he has sailed to boat from the Adriatic across the Atlantic, through the canal, out through the islands and all the way to Thailand. about a 2.5 year trip so far and when he leaves here he is headed for either Sirilanka or India and on to Oman and then the Red Sea. Is he a fairly big guy from South Africa? I met a guy in So Fl who had a boat which looked quite a bit like that. His intention was to either sail around South America or through the Canal and back to South Africa by way of the Pacific. Nope. He is, I'd guess, in his 20's and about 5'10", say. From Hungary. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:58:29 -0500, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote: "Bruce In Bangkok" wrote www.meder.hu "Sailing Alone Around the World with Carina (19ft boat)" Fascinating site. Thanks. I found him quite interesting to talk to. Apparently he wanted to sail around the world and so just went out and did it. From talking to him the boat was all he could afford and so he went for it. He makes no pretenses that he has the best boat and in fact when I said I had a 40' boat he commented that I must be a lot faster then him. He said that coming up the Malacca Straits he was able to do 1.5 K, over the ground at times. His Atlantic crossing was 5 weeks and I asked him how he carried all the supplies and he mentioned that he tried to use as little fresh water as possible :-) Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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"katy" wrote in message
om... Bruce In Bangkok wrote: On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:33:41 -0500, katy wrote: What's the big black boat across the fairway in the picture? That is a "Junk". The inverted commas are because it is really just a semi-traditional hull with a big engine and junk type fully battened sails. It is a day cruise charter boat and is quite successful, going out nearly every day with, say 10 - 30 passengers. The sails are only for show, they haul them up in the morning and they are small enough that in any wind short of a hurricane they can stay up and not impede the boat which motors all the time. Apparently it is quite a good trip as I have heard the tourists coming off the boat enthusing over what a nice day they have had. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) hahahaha...we have the tourists here who say the same thing when they get off the charter cruise ...she does put up her sails and turn off the rngine but we have pretty tame sailing here and they all think they've been out in a gale! Once in a while one of the time share peeps will wander down to the docks trying to get private boats to take them out for a fee...we all point to the charter boat...they really aren't interested in hearing about licensing and captaincy etc... We have charter boats somewhat like that here... however, they do actually sail and it can be quite a dramatic experience for the uninitiated. The only time the engines are typically on is returning or leaving the dock. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:58:29 -0500, "Ernest Scribbler" wrote: "Bruce In Bangkok" wrote www.meder.hu "Sailing Alone Around the World with Carina (19ft boat)" Fascinating site. Thanks. I found him quite interesting to talk to. Apparently he wanted to sail around the world and so just went out and did it. From talking to him the boat was all he could afford and so he went for it. He makes no pretenses that he has the best boat and in fact when I said I had a 40' boat he commented that I must be a lot faster then him. He said that coming up the Malacca Straits he was able to do 1.5 K, over the ground at times. His Atlantic crossing was 5 weeks and I asked him how he carried all the supplies and he mentioned that he tried to use as little fresh water as possible :-) Given his meager fuel, if he gets becalmed, he pretty much just need to wait it out putting stress on his water supplies. I wonder if he has a solar still for just such situations. Did he have a huge supply of books aboard? BTW, I met Robin Knox Johnson years ago. One of his stories still gives me the shivers. |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message om... Bruce In Bangkok wrote: On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:33:41 -0500, katy wrote: What's the big black boat across the fairway in the picture? That is a "Junk". The inverted commas are because it is really just a semi-traditional hull with a big engine and junk type fully battened sails. It is a day cruise charter boat and is quite successful, going out nearly every day with, say 10 - 30 passengers. The sails are only for show, they haul them up in the morning and they are small enough that in any wind short of a hurricane they can stay up and not impede the boat which motors all the time. Apparently it is quite a good trip as I have heard the tourists coming off the boat enthusing over what a nice day they have had. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) hahahaha...we have the tourists here who say the same thing when they get off the charter cruise ...she does put up her sails and turn off the rngine but we have pretty tame sailing here and they all think they've been out in a gale! Once in a while one of the time share peeps will wander down to the docks trying to get private boats to take them out for a fee...we all point to the charter boat...they really aren't interested in hearing about licensing and captaincy etc... We have charter boats somewhat like that here... however, they do actually sail and it can be quite a dramatic experience for the uninitiated. The only time the engines are typically on is returning or leaving the dock. I like dramatic sailing experiences///most dramatic thing in the Neuse is if you go aground... |
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In article , slide wrote:
BTW, I met Robin Knox Johnson years ago. One of his stories still gives me the shivers. C'mon, credit where it's due, it's Sir Robin Knox-Johnston. When someone has achieved so much the least you can do is show the respect that has been earned, if that means calling him 'Sir Robin' then call him that! Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:22:46 -0700, slide
wrote: Bruce In Bangkok wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:58:29 -0500, "Ernest Scribbler" wrote: "Bruce In Bangkok" wrote www.meder.hu "Sailing Alone Around the World with Carina (19ft boat)" Fascinating site. Thanks. I found him quite interesting to talk to. Apparently he wanted to sail around the world and so just went out and did it. From talking to him the boat was all he could afford and so he went for it. He makes no pretenses that he has the best boat and in fact when I said I had a 40' boat he commented that I must be a lot faster then him. He said that coming up the Malacca Straits he was able to do 1.5 K, over the ground at times. His Atlantic crossing was 5 weeks and I asked him how he carried all the supplies and he mentioned that he tried to use as little fresh water as possible :-) Given his meager fuel, if he gets becalmed, he pretty much just need to wait it out putting stress on his water supplies. I wonder if he has a solar still for just such situations. Did he have a huge supply of books aboard? BTW, I met Robin Knox Johnson years ago. One of his stories still gives me the shivers. Difficult to believe that he can carry more then, say 20 Ltrs of fuel, or many books for that matter. It is a small boat. I'll probably talk to him again and will try to get some details of how, what, how much, etc. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:36:34 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:58:36 GMT, (Richard Casady) wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:12:05 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: I don't know what defines a big boat. I have a 22 ft alum fish/ski. It has a great deal of freeboard, sail area, if you like, and it is big when you are trying to get it from the trailer to the dock. There are 24 or even longer boats that catch less wind, but its docking it unaided what makes it big. It _is_ bigger than nearly all the local boats. Casady A friend had a 28' boat and sailed all over the Western Pacific and Indian Ocean with it. The only problem is that short boats are slower and size does limit how much "stuff" you can haul. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) Yeah, it's stuff comprised of convenience items, additional safety gear, passengers, what else? I guess it's a comfort zone issue. Some people aren't concerned with what others would consider the bare minimum. I don't know many cruisers that care much for extra passengers, except for short trips but the "stuff", that's the problem. Extra this and extra that; can anyone throw away a perfectly good, used, headsail sheet that was just removed after ten years of use? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:38:48 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "katy" wrote in message . com... Bruce In Bangkok wrote: On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:33:41 -0500, katy wrote: What's the big black boat across the fairway in the picture? That is a "Junk". The inverted commas are because it is really just a semi-traditional hull with a big engine and junk type fully battened sails. It is a day cruise charter boat and is quite successful, going out nearly every day with, say 10 - 30 passengers. The sails are only for show, they haul them up in the morning and they are small enough that in any wind short of a hurricane they can stay up and not impede the boat which motors all the time. Apparently it is quite a good trip as I have heard the tourists coming off the boat enthusing over what a nice day they have had. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) hahahaha...we have the tourists here who say the same thing when they get off the charter cruise ...she does put up her sails and turn off the rngine but we have pretty tame sailing here and they all think they've been out in a gale! Once in a while one of the time share peeps will wander down to the docks trying to get private boats to take them out for a fee...we all point to the charter boat...they really aren't interested in hearing about licensing and captaincy etc... We have charter boats somewhat like that here... however, they do actually sail and it can be quite a dramatic experience for the uninitiated. The only time the engines are typically on is returning or leaving the dock. The "black boats" apparently were designed, from day one, as sightseeing boats. The company owns four of them, two here and two in Ko Samoui, and while they vary a bit in hull shape are essentially the same - 200 HP diesels and small sails. They haul the sails up before the customers arrive and take them down after they get back, but they do look like a proper junk... if you've never seen a junk :-) Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:56:21 -0500, katy
wrote: Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message om... Bruce In Bangkok wrote: On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:33:41 -0500, katy wrote: What's the big black boat across the fairway in the picture? That is a "Junk". The inverted commas are because it is really just a semi-traditional hull with a big engine and junk type fully battened sails. It is a day cruise charter boat and is quite successful, going out nearly every day with, say 10 - 30 passengers. The sails are only for show, they haul them up in the morning and they are small enough that in any wind short of a hurricane they can stay up and not impede the boat which motors all the time. Apparently it is quite a good trip as I have heard the tourists coming off the boat enthusing over what a nice day they have had. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) hahahaha...we have the tourists here who say the same thing when they get off the charter cruise ...she does put up her sails and turn off the rngine but we have pretty tame sailing here and they all think they've been out in a gale! Once in a while one of the time share peeps will wander down to the docks trying to get private boats to take them out for a fee...we all point to the charter boat...they really aren't interested in hearing about licensing and captaincy etc... We have charter boats somewhat like that here... however, they do actually sail and it can be quite a dramatic experience for the uninitiated. The only time the engines are typically on is returning or leaving the dock. I like dramatic sailing experiences///most dramatic thing in the Neuse is if you go aground... My preference is for boring trips - the ones where nothing memorable happens ;-) Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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"Justin C" wrote in message ... In article , slide wrote: BTW, I met Robin Knox Johnson years ago. One of his stories still gives me the shivers. C'mon, credit where it's due, it's Sir Robin Knox-Johnston. When someone has achieved so much the least you can do is show the respect that has been earned, if that means calling him 'Sir Robin' then call him that! Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. Not to put too fine a point on it, but it's actually "Brave Sir Robin." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8 |
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In article , KLC Lewis wrote:
"Justin C" wrote in message ... C'mon, credit where it's due, it's Sir Robin Knox-Johnston. When someone has achieved so much the least you can do is show the respect that has been earned, if that means calling him 'Sir Robin' then call him that! Not to put too fine a point on it, but it's actually "Brave Sir Robin." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8 I don't even have to follow that to know what it links to you stupid English kerniggit! Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. |
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"Justin C" wrote in message ... In article , KLC Lewis wrote: "Justin C" wrote in message ... C'mon, credit where it's due, it's Sir Robin Knox-Johnston. When someone has achieved so much the least you can do is show the respect that has been earned, if that means calling him 'Sir Robin' then call him that! Not to put too fine a point on it, but it's actually "Brave Sir Robin." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8 I don't even have to follow that to know what it links to you stupid English kerniggit! Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. Very well. Just bring us a shrubbery. |
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