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jlar December 24th 08 11:30 PM

Weather along sailing routes
 
Hi,

I have just developed a new marine weather forecast site which I would
really like feedback from sailors on. The web site is located he

http://www.worldwildweather.com

One of my major concerns is whether the way you specify a sailing
route by waypoints and get a marine forecast along the route (called
Route Weather on my web site) is intuitive enough. What do you think?
I am also very interested in feedback on other things on the web site.

Best regards,
Jesper

Capt. JG December 24th 08 11:45 PM

Weather along sailing routes
 
"jlar" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have just developed a new marine weather forecast site which I would
really like feedback from sailors on. The web site is located he

http://www.worldwildweather.com

One of my major concerns is whether the way you specify a sailing
route by waypoints and get a marine forecast along the route (called
Route Weather on my web site) is intuitive enough. What do you think?
I am also very interested in feedback on other things on the web site.

Best regards,
Jesper



Stuffs broken, and it's difficult to navigate by clicking on the image at
the top.

Error requesting url:
http://www.worldwildweather.com/info...rmat=json&tz=0 with error
[object Error]


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jlar December 25th 08 12:26 AM

Weather along sailing routes
 
On Dec 24, 11:45 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
Stuffs broken, and it's difficult to navigate by clicking on the image at
the top.

Error requesting url:http://www.worldwildweather.com/info...=json&tz=0with error
[object Error]


Hi Capt. JG,

Thanks for your feedback. I don't get any errors on the browser I have
tested with. I obviously miss some. What browser are you using?

Do you prefer text based navigation or is it simply a matter of image
size?

Best regards,
Jesper

jlar December 25th 08 12:28 AM

Weather along sailing routes
 
On Dec 25, 12:26 am, jlar wrote:
Thanks for your feedback. I don't get any errors on the browser I have
tested with. I obviously miss some. What browser are you using?


Make that "browsers I have tested with" instead of "browser I have
tested with";-)

Capt. JG December 25th 08 12:47 AM

Weather along sailing routes
 
"jlar" wrote in message
...
On Dec 24, 11:45 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
Stuffs broken, and it's difficult to navigate by clicking on the image at
the top.

Error requesting
url:http://www.worldwildweather.com/info...=json&tz=0with
error
[object Error]


Hi Capt. JG,

Thanks for your feedback. I don't get any errors on the browser I have
tested with. I obviously miss some. What browser are you using?

Do you prefer text based navigation or is it simply a matter of image
size?

Best regards,
Jesper



The initial error was with IE7 with a refresh after I click on the map. I
get the error every time. I'm talking about clicking on the map on the left,
not the one on the right.

I tried with Opera (9.6) - doesn't have the error.

I tried with Firefox (3.0.4) - doesn't have the error.

I do prefer text navigation, but don't mind image nav., as long as I can
understand the result. If I click on my region on the map, I get three
images, but it's not clear that I got to the right place. Maybe bigger is
better... don't know if that'll help... definitely better resolution and
bigger would help, but obviously would affect loading time.

Have a great Christmas!

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Justin C[_15_] December 25th 08 12:56 PM

Weather along sailing routes
 
In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote:

I do prefer text navigation,


And so will anyone wanting to use the OP's service with satellite phone or over ssb (or whatever those Pactor thingies use).

Justin.

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jlar December 25th 08 07:24 PM

Weather along sailing routes
 
On Dec 25, 12:47 am, "Capt. JG" wrote:
The initial error was with IE7 with a refresh after I click on the map. I
get the error every time. I'm talking about clicking on the map on the left,
not the one on the right.


Thanks, I am looking into it now.

I do prefer text navigation, but don't mind image nav., as long as I can
understand the result. If I click on my region on the map, I get three
images, but it's not clear that I got to the right place. Maybe bigger is
better... don't know if that'll help... definitely better resolution and
bigger would help, but obviously would affect loading time.


Okay, now I understand. The right plot is supposed to be used to zoom
into your region. When you have zoomed in you can click on the left
plot to get a forecast on your location. So you should click on the
right plot first until you have zoomed to an appropriate level. I will
try to make this more clear (but I will have to think a while on how
to do that).

Have a great Christmas!


A merry Christmas to you too and thanks for the feedback.

Best regards,
Jesper

jlar December 25th 08 07:47 PM

Weather along sailing routes
 
On Dec 25, 12:56 pm, Justin C wrote:
I do prefer text navigation,


And so will anyone wanting to use the OP's service with satellite phone or over ssb (or whatever those Pactor thingies use).


I haven't yet made an email service but that is definitely on top of
my todo list. I have however made a low bandwidth version of the web
site (or more accurately parts of the web site - it is only weather at
a specific location and weather along a route which is available in
the low bandwidth part):

http://www.worldwildweather.com/mobile

The low bandwidth version is made for PDA's and mobile phones with
good displays (otherwise the plots cannot be easily seen). It can
however be used on all devices (including normal computers) with a web
browser (best if they have Javascript support).

The low bandwidth web site does return plots (size approximately
50-100 kilobytes), so for really slow connections (like Iridium
satellite and maybe SSB - I am not aware of how fast a SSB connection
is) it is only marginally usable. I am therefore working on the
possibility to get a text forecast. This service will be available in
the first quarter of next year.

Best regards,
Jesper

Wayne.B December 26th 08 01:41 AM

Weather along sailing routes
 
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:47:04 -0800 (PST), jlar
wrote:

I am not aware of how fast a SSB connection
is


Typical speeds with SSB/Pactor vary from 200 bits/sec up to about 4800
bits/sec, not very fast by today's standards.

jlar December 27th 08 09:03 AM

Weather along sailing routes
 
On Dec 26, 1:41 am, Wayne.B wrote:
Typical speeds with SSB/Pactor vary from 200 bits/sec up to about 4800
bits/sec, not very fast by today's standards.


Thanks for the information. I will keep that in mind when I make the
email solution.

Best regards,
Jesper

jlar December 27th 08 11:02 PM

Weather along sailing routes
 
Hi again Capt. JG

I have changed the marine weather forecast application so that it is
more clear that you will have to zoom into your area first using the
small map. I have done two things:

1. Added a couple of lines of text explaining it at the top of the
page.

2. Moved the menu bar to the right since people tend to read from left
to right.

I can see from my log files that you are not the only one for whom the
user interface was confusing. I hope the small update I have made will
make it a bit easier. I will though keep this issue in mind and make
other changes if I figure out anything.

On Dec 25, 12:47 am, "Capt. JG" wrote:
The initial error was with IE7 with a refresh after I click on the map. I
get the error every time. I'm talking about clicking on the map on the left,
not the one on the right.


Unfortunately I have not been able to reproduce the error (I have
tried two computers with IE7 but the error does not seem to occur on
either of them). What I have done is implementing better reporting/
logging of errors - so that I will automatically get more information
if an error happens. I hope this will allow me to diagnose the error
when it happens again.

From my log files I have also discovered a couple of other issues with
my application. The most important being:

If you type in longitudes and latitudes in the wrong places (so that
you type in longitude in the latitude box and vice versa) you will
just be informed that there is "No data" at the point. I will
implement a check if lons/lats are within appropriate bounds and
return a more appropriate error message. If someone type in what they
think are valid lons/lats and just gets "No data" they will of course
be very disappointed.

I am very happy about the feedback I got here (both direct posting
here and the errors I discovered from looking for errors in my log
files). I hope it is okay to write to this mailing list once again in
a month or so to get more feedback - or is that considered spamming?

Best regards,
Jesper
www.worldwildweather.com

jlar December 27th 08 11:04 PM

Weather along sailing routes
 
On Dec 27, 11:02 pm, jlar wrote:
Hi again Capt. JG

I have changed the marine weather forecast application so that it is
more clear that you will have to zoom into your area first using the
small map. I have done two things:

1. Added a couple of lines of text explaining it at the top of the
page.

2. Moved the menu bar to the right since people tend to read from left
to right.


Forgot to mention that you will have to push shift+control+reload to
get the new updated layout.

Sorry for the inconvenience,
Jesper
www.worldwildweather.com

Capt. JG December 28th 08 01:09 AM

Weather along sailing routes
 
"jlar" wrote in message
...
Hi again Capt. JG

I have changed the marine weather forecast application so that it is
more clear that you will have to zoom into your area first using the
small map. I have done two things:

1. Added a couple of lines of text explaining it at the top of the
page.

2. Moved the menu bar to the right since people tend to read from left
to right.

I can see from my log files that you are not the only one for whom the
user interface was confusing. I hope the small update I have made will
make it a bit easier. I will though keep this issue in mind and make
other changes if I figure out anything.

On Dec 25, 12:47 am, "Capt. JG" wrote:
The initial error was with IE7 with a refresh after I click on the map. I
get the error every time. I'm talking about clicking on the map on the
left,
not the one on the right.


Unfortunately I have not been able to reproduce the error (I have
tried two computers with IE7 but the error does not seem to occur on
either of them). What I have done is implementing better reporting/
logging of errors - so that I will automatically get more information
if an error happens. I hope this will allow me to diagnose the error
when it happens again.

From my log files I have also discovered a couple of other issues with
my application. The most important being:

If you type in longitudes and latitudes in the wrong places (so that
you type in longitude in the latitude box and vice versa) you will
just be informed that there is "No data" at the point. I will
implement a check if lons/lats are within appropriate bounds and
return a more appropriate error message. If someone type in what they
think are valid lons/lats and just gets "No data" they will of course
be very disappointed.

I am very happy about the feedback I got here (both direct posting
here and the errors I discovered from looking for errors in my log
files). I hope it is okay to write to this mailing list once again in
a month or so to get more feedback - or is that considered spamming?

Best regards,
Jesper
www.worldwildweather.com



I'll check it out...


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