¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

I have a Crusader, Charger Series 250 h.p. engine which is
from what I understand a 1967 Chevy 327 5.4 liter, in a
houseboat that has an inboard drive. I have drained water
from the petcocks on the engine water pump and also
from what appears to be an inline pump that has two lines
for cooling the differential gearbox. The one on the inline
pump finally stropped draining water, but the one on the
engine water pump kept on and on and on...to the point
that I don't see how the whole system could hold that
much water. Could it still be coming as I drain it out? If so,
what to do about that?

Also, somewhere I got the idea that it's good to open the
system where the thermostat would go and fill it with
anti-freeze, to take care of pockets where water could
still be trapped and maybe even to keep gaskets etc
from drying out. Is that something I should do? If so,
would a 50/50 mix be good enough?

Thanx for any help!
Loo

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:55:38 -0200, loonfellow@lakeside. wrote:

I have a Crusader, Charger Series 250 h.p. engine which is
from what I understand a 1967 Chevy 327 5.4 liter, in a
houseboat that has an inboard drive. I have drained water
from the petcocks on the engine water pump and also
from what appears to be an inline pump that has two lines
for cooling the differential gearbox. The one on the inline
pump finally stropped draining water, but the one on the
engine water pump kept on and on and on...to the point
that I don't see how the whole system could hold that
much water. Could it still be coming as I drain it out? If so,
what to do about that?

Also, somewhere I got the idea that it's good to open the
system where the thermostat would go and fill it with
anti-freeze, to take care of pockets where water could
still be trapped and maybe even to keep gaskets etc
from drying out. Is that something I should do? If so,
would a 50/50 mix be good enough?


The easiest way to do this is to fill a 5 gallon pail with non-toxic
anti-freeze, the pink stuff rated for 100 below zero. If the boat is
still in the water, warm up the engine first. With the engine shut
down, disconnect the water intake hose at the strainer. If the
hose is long enough, put it in the bucket, otherwise make up a short
extension and place that in the bucket. Remove the air filter from
the carburetor. Start up the engine and watch the anti-freeze level
in the bucket. When there is about a gallon left, spray fogging oil
into the carburetor until the engine stalls. If it doesn't stall,
just shut it down. Replace the air filter and re-install the water
intake hose. Close the intake seacock and pour some antifreeze into
the strainer.

The engine is now winterized.

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

loonfellow@lakeside. wrote:

pump finally stropped draining water, but the one on the
engine water pump kept on and on and on...to the point
that I don't see how the whole system could hold that
much water. Could it still be coming as I drain it out? If so,
what to do about that?

Is the boat still in the water? If so then yes it will keep siphoning
from the lake.

Also, somewhere I got the idea that it's good to open the
system where the thermostat would go and fill it with
anti-freeze, to take care of pockets where water could
still be trapped and maybe even to keep gaskets etc
from drying out. Is that something I should do? If so,
would a 50/50 mix be good enough?

You should find what you need he

http://brownsmarina.com/tech-winter-inboard.html


--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:55:38 -0200, loonfellow@lakeside. wrote:

I have a Crusader, Charger Series 250 h.p. engine which is
from what I understand a 1967 Chevy 327 5.4 liter, in a
houseboat that has an inboard drive. I have drained water
from the petcocks on the engine water pump and also
from what appears to be an inline pump that has two lines
for cooling the differential gearbox. The one on the inline
pump finally stropped draining water, but the one on the
engine water pump kept on and on and on...to the point
that I don't see how the whole system could hold that
much water. Could it still be coming as I drain it out? If so,
what to do about that?

Also, somewhere I got the idea that it's good to open the
system where the thermostat would go and fill it with
anti-freeze, to take care of pockets where water could
still be trapped and maybe even to keep gaskets etc
from drying out. Is that something I should do? If so,
would a 50/50 mix be good enough?


The easiest way to do this is to fill a 5 gallon pail with non-toxic
anti-freeze, the pink stuff rated for 100 below zero. If the boat is
still in the water, warm up the engine first. With the engine shut
down, disconnect the water intake hose at the strainer. If the
hose is long enough, put it in the bucket, otherwise make up a short
extension and place that in the bucket. Remove the air filter from
the carburetor. Start up the engine and watch the anti-freeze level
in the bucket. When there is about a gallon left, spray fogging oil
into the carburetor until the engine stalls. If it doesn't stall,
just shut it down. Replace the air filter and re-install the water
intake hose. Close the intake seacock and pour some antifreeze into
the strainer.

The engine is now winterized.


I think it might be better to close the intake seacock before you disconnect
the hose from it

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

Wayne.B wrote:

The easiest way to do this is to fill a 5 gallon pail with non-toxic
anti-freeze, the pink stuff rated for 100 below zero.

Pink stuff - as in plumbing ant-freeze? I think I have something on that
too. ;-)

http://brownsmarina.com/tech-af.html

--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:36:17 -0500, Dave Brown wrote:

loonfellow@lakeside. wrote:

pump finally stropped draining water, but the one on the
engine water pump kept on and on and on...to the point
that I don't see how the whole system could hold that
much water. Could it still be coming as I drain it out? If so,
what to do about that?

Is the boat still in the water? If so then yes it will keep siphoning
from the lake.

Then I guess I do need to fill it with anti-freeze and tighten
everything back up or it will fill back up with lake water?

Also, somewhere I got the idea that it's good to open the
system where the thermostat would go and fill it with
anti-freeze, to take care of pockets where water could
still be trapped and maybe even to keep gaskets etc
from drying out. Is that something I should do? If so,
would a 50/50 mix be good enough?

You should find what you need he

http://brownsmarina.com/tech-winter-inboard.html

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 22:48:35 +0100, "Edgar"
wrote:

I think it might be better to close the intake seacock before you disconnect
the hose from it

Somethings still require common sense. :-)

Good point though.

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

The easiest way to do this is to fill a 5 gallon pail with non-toxic
anti-freeze, the pink stuff rated for 100 below zero. If the boat is
still in the water, warm up the engine first. With the engine shut
down, disconnect the water intake hose at the strainer.

Agreed, this way you're pulling anti-freeze in the same way as the water is
handled.

Just BE SURE to do it only when the engine has completely warmed up.
Otherwise the thermostat won't be open and parts of the system would still
have water in them.

-Bill Kearney

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

On 9 Dec, 21:55, Dave Brown wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
The easiest way to do this is to fill a 5 gallon pail with non-toxic
anti-freeze, the pink stuff rated for 100 below zero.

Pink stuff - as in plumbing ant-freeze? I think I have something on that
too. ;-)

http://brownsmarina.com/tech-af.html

--
Regards,
* * * Dave Brown
* * * Brown's Marina Ltd
* * *http://brownsmarina.com/

Use automotive anti freeze which is better for aluminium and the
different metals than domestic plumbing stuff.

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

On Dec 10, 10:14*am, back to the boats
wrote:
On 9 Dec, 21:55, Dave Brown wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
The easiest way to do this is to fill a 5 gallon pail with non-toxic
anti-freeze, the pink stuff rated for 100 below zero.

Pink stuff - as in plumbing ant-freeze? I think I have something on that
too. ;-)

http://brownsmarina.com/tech-af.html

--
Regards,
* * * Dave Brown
* * * Brown's Marina Ltd
* * *http://brownsmarina.com/

Use automotive anti freeze which is better for aluminium and the
different metals than domestic plumbing stuff.

Which is also toxic and illegal. Use the non-toxic kind. Walmart has
it in the RV section.

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

wrote:

Use automotive anti freeze which is better for aluminium and the
different metals than domestic plumbing stuff.

Which is also toxic and illegal. Use the non-toxic kind. Walmart has
it in the RV section.

You didn't read the link did you? ;-)

One more time:

http://brownsmarina.com/tech-af.html



--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

Bill Kearney wrote:

Agreed, this way you're pulling anti-freeze in the same way as the water
is handled.
Just BE SURE to do it only when the engine has completely warmed up.
Otherwise the thermostat won't be open and parts of the system would
still have water in them.

My big issue with this method is that most systems are designed to feed
the manifolds regardless of thermostat position and unless your
thermostat is wide open when you use this method, most of the a/f will
be sucked in, then pushed out through the exhaust without ever seeing
the inside of the block. PLUS, it will be mixing with the water that is
already there thereby reducing the protection level (and possibly
passing the threshold of protection).


--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

loonfellow@lakeside. wrote:

Then I guess I do need to fill it with anti-freeze and tighten
everything back up or it will fill back up with lake water?

Are you leaving it in the water for the winter? Then there's other
things you need to do...




--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:28:17 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:55:38 -0200, loonfellow@lakeside. wrote:

...I have drained water
from the petcocks on the engine water pump and also
from what appears to be an inline pump that has two lines
for cooling the differential gearbox. ...

Also, somewhere I got the idea that it's good to open the
system where the thermostat would go....

***

The easiest way to do this is to fill a 5 gallon pail with non-toxic
anti-freeze, the pink stuff rated for 100 below zero. If the boat is
still in the water, warm up the engine first. With the engine shut
down, disconnect the water intake hose at the strainer. If the
hose is long enough, put it in the bucket, otherwise make up a short
extension and place that in the bucket. Remove the air filter from
the carburetor. Start up the engine and watch the anti-freeze level
in the bucket. When there is about a gallon left, spray fogging oil
into the carburetor until the engine stalls. If it doesn't stall,
just shut it down. Replace the air filter and re-install the water
intake hose. Close the intake seacock and pour some antifreeze into
the strainer.

The engine is now winterized.

Nice post!

BrianW

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:22:25 -0500, Dave Brown wrote:

loonfellow@lakeside. wrote:

Then I guess I do need to fill it with anti-freeze and tighten
everything back up or it will fill back up with lake water?

Are you leaving it in the water for the winter? Then there's other
things you need to do...

Yes, I'm leaving it in the water. I'm in GA though, so there's no
need to worry about the lake freezing. I do need to worry about
the motor filling up with lake water, or even filling to a certain
point though. It seems that if I fill it with anti-freeze, or even
50/50 then it would eventually become a pretty even mix of
water and anti-freeze throughout the whole system which would
be full and allow no more lake water to come in, prevent any
pockets of just water which could freeze, and keep gaskets
etc from drying out.

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:18:38 -0500, Dave Brown wrote:

wrote:

Use automotive anti freeze which is better for aluminium and the
different metals than domestic plumbing stuff.

Which is also toxic and illegal. Use the non-toxic kind. Walmart has
it in the RV section.

You didn't read the link did you? ;-)

One more time:

http://brownsmarina.com/tech-af.html

Where do you get the Propylene Glycol? That's what is
used in fog machines.

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

loonfellow@lakeside. wrote:

http://brownsmarina.com/tech-af.html

Where do you get the Propylene Glycol? That's what is
used in fog machines.

Also has been used as a a food additive.

It's normally what's labeled "non toxic" anti-freeze.



--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

¿¿¿Winterizing a V-8 houseboat engine???
 

loonfellow@lakeside. wrote:

Yes, I'm leaving it in the water. I'm in GA though, so there's no
need to worry about the lake freezing. I do need to worry about
the motor filling up with lake water, or even filling to a certain
point though. It seems that if I fill it with anti-freeze, or even
50/50 then it would eventually become a pretty even mix of
water and anti-freeze throughout the whole system which would
be full and allow no more lake water to come in, prevent any
pockets of just water which could freeze, and keep gaskets
etc from drying out.

What you may need to worry about is your sea cocks freezing and
splitting though. You need to isolate the engine from the sea cocks and
then winterize the engine, then you need to fill the sea cocks with oil
to save them (and your boat).



--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/