Anybody wonder where Janet (she who started this thread) has
disappeared to?
All this advice being tossed about here and she's a no show now.
Or is she just another of WH's sock puppets......

"pirate" opened his pie hole and blathered in message
...
Anybody wonder where Janet (she who started this thread) has
disappeared to?
All this advice being tossed about here and she's a no show now.
Or is she just another of WH's sock puppets......


Or, maybe Ms. O'Leary has a life? Or maybe she took my good advice and is
out sailing her Sabre learning the ropes. She'll never learn much here if
all she does is listen to know-nothings like yourself. She seems halfway
intelligent to me so I'm sure she's placed you in her kill file as rubbish.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:46:32 -0800 (PST), pirate
wrote:

Anybody wonder where Janet (she who started this thread) has
disappeared to?
All this advice being tossed about here and she's a no show now.
Or is she just another of WH's sock puppets......


If you go back and read the original Janet post and compare it with
other newbe's posts it appears to demonstrate considerable knowledge
of boats.

Much as though Janet was, perhaps, just another of Neal's sock-puppets
intended to let Wilbur astound us all with his vast knowledge of boats

gained from reading the latest copy of Cruising World (the online
magazine for those too cheap to pay for a paper edition).

Cheers,

Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)

Asked an answered. WH has spoken once again. The court jester, who
couldn't navigate his way
away from the dock is suggesting that "Mrs. O'Leary has a life"! She
hasn't had a life since her cow kicked
over the lantern. Gotcha asshole! To quote you
BAAAAAAAAAAAAWAAAAAAAAHAAAAA! Nice try.

"pirate" wrote in message
...
Anybody wonder where Janet (she who started this thread) has
disappeared to?
All this advice being tossed about here and she's a no show now.
Or is she just another of WH's sock puppets......

Just came in,, started reading all the postings..
You boys sure do like to argue.

I must give you all a thumbs up.. lots of very good advice.

Picked up a couple more books.. some of the info is not relevant.
But little by little ..

I may step back from the free boat.. one of you wrote about how much
it cost to bring the boat up to sailing shape.. and that caused me to
pause.

Still out here.. still reading .. still learning .. planning, dreaming..
Will post when I know more..

I am working while doing the planning so you know how that goes..

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:46:32 -0800 (PST), pirate
wrote:

Anybody wonder where Janet (she who started this thread) has
disappeared to?
All this advice being tossed about here and she's a no show now.
Or is she just another of WH's sock puppets......


If you go back and read the original Janet post and compare it with
other newbe's posts it appears to demonstrate considerable knowledge
of boats.

Much as though Janet was, perhaps, just another of Neal's sock-puppets
intended to let Wilbur astound us all with his vast knowledge of boats

gained from reading the latest copy of Cruising World (the online
magazine for those too cheap to pay for a paper edition).

Cheers,

Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)


Reminds me of "Ellen" another Neal sockpuppet.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:53:46 GMT, "Janet O'Leary"
wrote:

I am working while doing the planning so you know how that goes..

Work is the curse of the sailing class.

On Dec 1, 10:56 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:53:46 GMT, "Janet O'Leary"

wrote:
I am working while doing the planning so you know how that goes..

Work is the curse of the sailing class.

IN this case, I do not care if she is a Neal sockpuppet because it has
been interesting revealing a great diff in sailing philosophy amongst
us. Some of us think the mentioned boat can be brought up to good
cruising abilities for little, others think it will take a lot of
money. The interesting thing to me is that the difference in opinion
exists. Is it possible that both are right but each has different
expectations about cruising? In my case, I take a minimalist approach
in which I emphasize doing things very simple but doing them
nevertheless. Others are very detail oriented and dot every "i" and
cross every "t" etc. so it costs them a lot more but they do not feel
good otherwise. Neither side is completely correct except for what
matters most to them.

On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:33:59 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

I take a minimalist approach
in which I emphasize doing things very simple but doing them
nevertheless. Others are very detail oriented and dot every "i" and
cross every "t" etc. so it costs them a lot more but they do not feel
good otherwise. Neither side is completely correct except for what
matters most to them.

That's because everything looks good to you after all those years
crawling around in caves. :-)

Expectations and priorities, that's what makes the difference.

On Dec 1, 8:33*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 1, 10:56 pm, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:53:46 GMT, "Janet O'Leary"

wrote:
I am working while doing the planning so you know how that goes..

Work is the curse of the sailing class.

IN this case, I do not care if she is a Neal sockpuppet because it has
been interesting revealing a great diff in sailing philosophy amongst
us. *Some of us think the mentioned boat can be brought up to good
cruising abilities for little, others think it will take a lot of
money. *The interesting thing to me is that the difference in opinion
exists. *Is it possible that both are right but each has different
expectations about cruising? *In my case, I take a minimalist approach
in which I emphasize doing things very simple but doing them
nevertheless. *Others are very detail oriented and dot every "i" and
cross every "t" etc. so it costs them a lot more but they do not feel
good otherwise. *Neither side is completely correct except for what
matters most to them.

for my part i do most of the fix and repair myself; so some costs are
not as evident as others. I dont figure time fixing the boat as some
loss of income; to me every fix makes it so i have another tool to use
on other boats which in the long term makes me money. making equipment
is the same, any that i make improves my skill, removes the great cost
that production gear has, and over the long term lessins the cost of
boat upkeep; it also makes me money cause folks that see a hand turned/
built block that works well and lasts ask me to make more and pay the
price for my work. sea bags, ditty bags, buckets, worked sail covers,
etc. keep my hands buisy at sea on one boat or another and then make a
profit when i get to shore and sell them.

for me an old boat is a way to make bank later.