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"Roger Long" wrote in
: The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... It's very true. If you look at the amount of traffic (excluding the "binaries" groups) that usenet generates, you'll see that it's on a steady/rapid decline. Ask the average person if they know what a newsgroup is and you'll probably get a blank stare. Even among my computer savvy friends, very few of them still use newgroups. In reality, why? The interface is clunky. Message threads are lost unless you use deja news (groups.google.com) to search them. Many groups are loaded with spam. The user interface technology has improved massively since news was created. It's death and/or lack of relevance is purely just a matter of time. -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org |
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"Roger Long" wrote in message ... The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... -- Roger Long I think the declining use is due to netkkkopping. Ganz has gotten posting to entire newsgroups from any subscriber prohibited by certain Usenet Service Providers. It's only a matter of time before everyone on Usenet is banned. |
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"Lloyd Bonifide" wrote in message ... "Roger Long" wrote in message ... The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... -- Roger Long I think the declining use is due to netkkkopping. Ganz has gotten posting to entire newsgroups from any subscriber prohibited by certain Usenet Service Providers. It's only a matter of time before everyone on Usenet is banned. But, Ganz is a known, avid liberal. As such, he has no other choice but to work hard to limit free speech. The reason for this is because liberals have never learned how to argue a point. They will always lose any argument with those to the right of their political brainwashing. They are totally ignorant as to facts. They ignore the real world and live in a self-imposed, censored fantasy land. They argue with their feelings of inadequacy first and foremost. So, their only recourse is to work hard to stifle honest discourse. This is the reason behind the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" misnamed, of course. It is actually a censorship doctrine whose aim is to limit the free speech of those expressing a conservative viewpoint because liberals have continuously failed to compete using their moral and intellectually bankrupt agenda and philosophy. Have you been following Ganz's and Dave's arguments. Ganz gets trashed every single time because he is totally ignorant and illogical. He uses his liberal feelings as the source of his comments so it only takes a couple well-chosen, logical words for Dave to smack him down every time. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Lloyd Bonifide wrote:
"Roger Long" wrote in message ... The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... -- Roger Long I think the declining use is due to netkkkopping. Ganz has gotten posting to entire newsgroups from any subscriber prohibited by certain Usenet Service Providers. It's only a matter of time before everyone on Usenet is banned. More likely due to unrestricted cross posting. It's easy to destroy a group that way. -- Richard (remove the X to email) |
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"cavelamb himself" wrote in message m... Lloyd Bonifide wrote: "Roger Long" wrote in message ... The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... -- Roger Long I think the declining use is due to netkkkopping. Ganz has gotten posting to entire newsgroups from any subscriber prohibited by certain Usenet Service Providers. It's only a matter of time before everyone on Usenet is banned. More likely due to unrestricted cross posting. It's easy to destroy a group that way. -- No doubt, but Ganz netkkkops that too. |
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"Roger Long" wrote in message
... The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... -- Roger Long Breaker breaker. I'm in the rocking chair! Anyone besides Scotty know that reference? There's probably a bear in the air with a camera. LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
m... Lloyd Bonifide wrote: "Roger Long" wrote in message ... The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... -- Roger Long troll sh*t removed More likely due to unrestricted cross posting. It's easy to destroy a group that way. While true, this is the same sort of person who seeks to destroy others because of inadequacies in himself. There will always be such people, and the only thing you can do is ignore them when you can and confront them when you must. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Roger Long" wrote in message ... The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... -- Roger Long Breaker breaker. I'm in the rocking chair! Anyone besides Scotty know that reference? There's probably a bear in the air with a camera. LOL What's your 20, bandit? -- Richard (remove the X to email) |
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:38:16 -0600, cavelamb himself
wrote: Capt. JG wrote: "Roger Long" wrote in message ... The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... -- Roger Long Breaker breaker. I'm in the rocking chair! Anyone besides Scotty know that reference? There's probably a bear in the air with a camera. LOL What's your 20, bandit? Let's stay on topic with the group. Somebody has to mention rubber ducky. --Vic |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
... On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:38:16 -0600, cavelamb himself wrote: Capt. JG wrote: "Roger Long" wrote in message ... The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... -- Roger Long Breaker breaker. I'm in the rocking chair! Anyone besides Scotty know that reference? There's probably a bear in the air with a camera. LOL What's your 20, bandit? Let's stay on topic with the group. Somebody has to mention rubber ducky. --Vic LOL... I'm not a Jimmy hauling hogs. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Roger Long" wrote in message ... The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... -- Roger Long Breaker breaker. I'm in the rocking chair! Anyone besides Scotty know that reference? There's probably a bear in the air with a camera. LOL Not mention Smokey with a blow-dryer. Cheers Martin |
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"Marty" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "Roger Long" wrote in message ... The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... -- Roger Long Breaker breaker. I'm in the rocking chair! Anyone besides Scotty know that reference? There's probably a bear in the air with a camera. LOL Not mention Smokey with a blow-dryer. Cheers Martin Are you talking about a bear on an eggbeater? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:41:36 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Marty" wrote in message m... Capt. JG wrote: "Roger Long" wrote in message ... The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... -- Roger Long Breaker breaker. I'm in the rocking chair! Anyone besides Scotty know that reference? There's probably a bear in the air with a camera. LOL Not mention Smokey with a blow-dryer. Cheers Martin Are you talking about a bear on an eggbeater? I don't think a blow dryer would be that useful from an eggbeater, good buddy. Everything looks clean and green from here. |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Roger Long" wrote in message ... The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... -- Roger Long Breaker breaker. I'm in the rocking chair! Anyone besides Scotty know that reference? There's probably a bear in the air with a camera. LOL Not mention Smokey with a blow-dryer. Cheers Martin Are you talking about a bear on an eggbeater? More like a county mounty in a plain wrapper taking pictures.... Cheers Martin |
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... On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:59:26 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:02:02 -0500, "Roger Long" wrote: The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... PC magazine? Someone should write an obit for THEM. They lost any relevance about the time Windows 98 did. Son of a gun! http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...ow_article= 1 They're enviro tree-huggers and believe in gaaak *evolution*. LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "Marty" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Roger Long" wrote in message ... The last column in the current issue of PC magazine is an obituary for Usenet. This group, and others like it, are now like CB radio in the early 1980's. There are still a few die hards out there talking but the airwaves are gradually going quiet. 10-4 good buddy. What's your 20?.... -- Roger Long Breaker breaker. I'm in the rocking chair! Anyone besides Scotty know that reference? There's probably a bear in the air with a camera. LOL Not mention Smokey with a blow-dryer. Cheers Martin Are you talking about a bear on an eggbeater? More like a county mounty in a plain wrapper taking pictures.... Cheers Martin He's got the hammer down and headed for the bear cage. Thank God they're just city kitties. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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In article , Geoff Schultz wrote:
It's very true. If you look at the amount of traffic (excluding the "binaries" groups) that usenet generates, you'll see that it's on a steady/rapid decline. Ask the average person if they know what a newsgroup is and you'll probably get a blank stare. Even among my computer savvy friends, very few of them still use newgroups. In reality, why? The interface is clunky. Message threads are lost unless you use deja news (groups.google.com) to search them. Many groups are loaded with spam. The user interface technology has improved massively since news was created. It's death and/or lack of relevance is purely just a matter of time. UI technology may have improved some software, but my newsreader is still great, $DEITY knows how long after it was first created, there is no need for a point an click GUI, it's not possible to make it easier to use with a mouse. I find usenet so much better to follow than a web forum. I hate those things. Too many bouncy smilies, (l)users whose 'avatar' has to me an animated GIF that is (if you're lucky) worth seeing once, but loops endlessly and is a distracting as hell and makes you want to actually kill the person because, of course, they are a prolific poster and you can't browse the forum without seeing it a million times. Then there are the flashing banner ads so many forums carry to generate revenue. The lack of decent threading, the almost total disregard of context quoting. The fact that "this is the interface, if you don't like it create your own forum", whereas with usenet it's "here is a newsfeed, use it how you like" - GUI, text, braille, text-to-speech (OK, you can do some of those with a web-forum, but, in my experiments here with a Mac, speaking will start at the top of the page and read all the adverts before it gets to the post). Damn, I *hate* those things. Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. |
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On 2008-11-20 16:48:14 -0500, Justin C said:
UI technology may have improved some software, but my newsreader is still great, $DEITY knows how long after it was first created, there is no need for a point an click GUI, it's not possible to make it easier to use with a mouse. I like having a variety of options. About all I use are the mouse and a scroll-wheel. Programmed the keys so the left thumb is back, right finger forward. No need to reach for function keys, etc. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:51:09 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:
On 2008-11-20 16:48:14 -0500, Justin C said: UI technology may have improved some software, but my newsreader is still great, $DEITY knows how long after it was first created, there is no need for a point an click GUI, it's not possible to make it easier to use with a mouse. I like having a variety of options. About all I use are the mouse and a scroll-wheel. Programmed the keys so the left thumb is back, right finger forward. No need to reach for function keys, etc. People who are in a hurry know that the less they use the mouse and the more they use the keys, the faster they get around. Mouse is certainly easier, but it is also a lot SLOWER. |
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wrote: Your problem is that you are further handicapped by a poor newsreader. Real, dedicated newsreaders are blazing fast and easy to navigate with keystrokes. Thats as may be. I'm used to its quirks though. I dont see that a dedicated reader is going to be much better with the s/n ratio where its at at the moment in most groups. If you hang out in groups where 90% of the threads are due to spammers, lusers, mutating sockpuppets and other wastes of bandwidth, how do you quickly select the threads you want from the keyboard? Once I've found something worth reading, I'm effectively in keyboard navigation mode till the end of the good stuff. Here's hoping things improve next spring post-inaugeration, because I'm in danger of wearing out my K key. Ah, now there's the hidden benefit of a "real" newsreader: a proper kill-file (aka scorefile). I don't what you are complaining of, all cross-posts are automatically killed. I only see Wilbur when someone quotes what he says. I can kill be subject, author, or any other header. I can kill threads started by someone who's in the kill-file so that I don't see all the OT stuff where people reply to the troll. A good score file (to use the proper name for a change), allows me to score certain keywords regularly used in subject lines, or certain authors, so, for example, if I'm very interested in what Skip is up to I just give him a score above zero and he's automatically at the top of the list (Wilbur and cross-posters don't even show up). Also, if I'm interested in fuel polishing, but not, for example when Roger comments on the subject (sorry Roger, just an example), I can score fuel polishing highly, but Roger in conjuction with fuel polishing gets a negative score. OK, I very *very* rearely go to these extremes, but a few minutes with a text editor can make a high-traffic group so much easier to follow. Normally it's just "K-A-A-enter" and I never see another post from that author again. My newsreader starts up with the groups sorted in the usual order I like ot read them, space-bar twice opens the first article in the first group, I can then read the whole rest of all news by just hitting the space bar with the occasional 'n' to skip something I don't want to read. This has really gone off topic, I'm sorry. I've been an enjoyer of usenet for about thirteen years and I'm very passionate about it as a medium - probably because I hate the alternative so much. Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea, who also prefers IRC to other "instant messenger" type programs, and was happy with a text-based email program until he got a Mac ... actually, I can't see much advantage of a GUI for that either. Yeah, go on, call me a luddite. |
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