Flying Pig Float Plan
 

Flying Pig will depart St. Simons Island, GA Frederica Bridge area
approximately noon Sunday November 16 for Miami Yacht Club basin.

Course will be approximately 62 degrees to the Cape Canaveral area,
after which we will stick close to the coast to avoid the Gulf Stream.

Weather appears to be dead astern for the entire trip, as it will
clock from 320 to 340 during our rhumb line trip to Canaveral, and
then to 360 for the balance of the expected times offshore.

As always, we have ample charts for the areas covered and will have no
compunctions about coming in should circumstances indicate or
necessitate. However, our furthest point offshore won't be but about
19 miles, so we should be in VHF contact with shore for the entire
trip, and cell phone coverage for half or more, so any emergency would
readily be resolved.

We are leading a flotilla, presuming our bottom growth sloughs off
well with our ablative bottom paint; our dinghy had an impressive
forest attached, but no bottom paint, removed this afternoon -
otherwise, we may be in company, or trailing!

As always, we'll have SPOT coverage as well: http://tinyurl.com/FlyingPigSpotTracking,
and if you're nervous about the address, you can see how it was
generated (to save you the extra long URL) at http://preview.tinyurl.com/FlyingPigSpotTracking.

L8R

Skip, Lydia, and Portia, the seagoing cat
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Flying Pig Float Plan
 

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:46:11 -0800 (PST), Skip Gundlach
wrote:

Flying Pig will depart St. Simons Island, GA Frederica Bridge area
approximately noon Sunday November 16 for Miami Yacht Club basin.

Course will be approximately 62 degrees to the Cape Canaveral area,
after which we will stick close to the coast to avoid the Gulf Stream.

Weather appears to be dead astern for the entire trip, as it will
clock from 320 to 340 during our rhumb line trip to Canaveral, and
then to 360 for the balance of the expected times offshore.

As always, we have ample charts for the areas covered and will have no
compunctions about coming in should circumstances indicate or
necessitate. However, our furthest point offshore won't be but about
19 miles, so we should be in VHF contact with shore for the entire
trip, and cell phone coverage for half or more, so any emergency would
readily be resolved.

We are leading a flotilla, presuming our bottom growth sloughs off
well with our ablative bottom paint; our dinghy had an impressive
forest attached, but no bottom paint, removed this afternoon -
otherwise, we may be in company, or trailing!

As always, we'll have SPOT coverage as well: http://tinyurl.com/FlyingPigSpotTracking,
and if you're nervous about the address, you can see how it was
generated (to save you the extra long URL) at http://preview.tinyurl.com/FlyingPigSpotTracking.

L8R

Skip, Lydia, and Portia, the seagoing cat


Not to be abrasive, but what is a "Float Plan"? Is this an Americanism
for something like voyage plan, or trip planning?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

Flying Pig Float Plan
 

On 2008-11-16 03:29:38 -0500, Bruce in Bangkok
said:

Not to be abrasive, but what is a "Float Plan"? Is this an Americanism
for something like voyage plan, or trip planning?

It's that plus telling someone about it so if you don't show up "there"
on time, the authorities will know to look for you and approximately
where, not that Flying Pig particularly needs that.

I expect another part of Skip's purpose is to drive the barca-cruisers crazy.

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Flying Pig Float Plan
 

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:57:24 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

On 2008-11-16 03:29:38 -0500, Bruce in Bangkok
said:

Not to be abrasive, but what is a "Float Plan"? Is this an Americanism
for something like voyage plan, or trip planning?

It's that plus telling someone about it so if you don't show up "there"
on time, the authorities will know to look for you and approximately
where, not that Flying Pig particularly needs that.

I expect another part of Skip's purpose is to drive the barca-cruisers crazy.


If one has a "float plan" does one also have a "sink plan" or a
"re-float plan"?

Aren't semantics wonderful?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

Flying Pig Float Plan
 

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:




If one has a "float plan" does one also have a "sink plan" or a
"re-float plan"?

Aren't semantics wonderful?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

Semantics are always fun. In this case "float plan" (the term)
developed as an analogue to "flight plan" as required to be filed by
airplane pilots.


Michael Porter Marine Design
mporter at mp-marine dot com
www.mp-marine.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Flying Pig Float Plan
 

On 2008-11-15 20:46:11 -0500, Skip Gundlach said:

Flying Pig will depart St. Simons Island, GA Frederica Bridge area
approximately noon Sunday November 16 for Miami Yacht Club basin.

Their SPOT is on, showing that they moved somewhere in the last 6 days.
http://tinyurl.com/FlyingPigSpotTracking

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Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Flying Pig Float Plan
 

I expect another part of Skip's purpose is to drive the barca-cruisers
crazy.

Exactly.

Good sailing Skip, have a safe journey. And make sure to antagonize the
wannabees that never actually sail anymore.

Flying Pig Float Plan
 

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:51:24 -0500, Michael Porter
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:




If one has a "float plan" does one also have a "sink plan" or a
"re-float plan"?

Aren't semantics wonderful?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

Semantics are always fun. In this case "float plan" (the term)
developed as an analogue to "flight plan" as required to be filed by
airplane pilots.


Michael Porter Marine Design
mporter at mp-marine dot com
www.mp-marine.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


On the other hand, an airplane makes a flight but a boat makes a
voyage. An airplane flies but a boat doesn't necessarily float - see
submarine, unterseabot, etc.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

Flying Pig Float Plan
 

On 2008-11-18 19:14:32 -0500, Bruce in Bangkok
said:

but a boat doesn't necessarily float - see submarine, unterseabot, etc.

errrr ... they DO float, just not on top of the water most times.

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Flying Pig Float Plan
 

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:23:41 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

On 2008-11-18 19:14:32 -0500, Bruce in Bangkok
said:

but a boat doesn't necessarily float - see submarine, unterseabot, etc.

errrr ... they DO float, just not on top of the water most times.


I'm not a submariner but I believe that much of the time they are
heavier then water at the depth they are navigating and have a
positive angle on the planes to maintain depth.

Ping Larry for details.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

Flying Pig Float Plan
 

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:51:24 -0500, Michael Porter
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:




If one has a "float plan" does one also have a "sink plan" or a
"re-float plan"?

Aren't semantics wonderful?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

Semantics are always fun. In this case "float plan" (the term)
developed as an analogue to "flight plan" as required to be filed by
airplane pilots.


Michael Porter Marine Design
mporter at mp-marine dot com
www.mp-marine.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


On the other hand, an airplane makes a flight but a boat makes a
voyage. An airplane flies but a boat doesn't necessarily float - see
submarine, unterseabot, etc.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bpaige125atgmaildotcom)


I've seen boats fly...

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Flying Pig Float Plan
 

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:57:51 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:51:24 -0500, Michael Porter
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:




If one has a "float plan" does one also have a "sink plan" or a
"re-float plan"?

Aren't semantics wonderful?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

Semantics are always fun. In this case "float plan" (the term)
developed as an analogue to "flight plan" as required to be filed by
airplane pilots.


Michael Porter Marine Design
mporter at mp-marine dot com
www.mp-marine.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


On the other hand, an airplane makes a flight but a boat makes a
voyage. An airplane flies but a boat doesn't necessarily float - see
submarine, unterseabot, etc.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bpaige125atgmaildotcom)


I've seen boats fly...

Flying Boats?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Flying Pig Float Plan
 

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:31:29 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:23:41 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

On 2008-11-18 19:14:32 -0500, Bruce in Bangkok
said:

but a boat doesn't necessarily float - see submarine, unterseabot, etc.

errrr ... they DO float, just not on top of the water most times.


I'm not a submariner but I believe that much of the time they are
heavier then water at the depth they are navigating and have a
positive angle on the planes to maintain depth.

A modern military submarine tries to be as close to neutral buoyancy
as possible. But since exact neutral buoyancy is impossible, they
usually try to stay ever so slightly positive so that if something
happens and they lose control, they'll rise instead of sink.

Static uncontrolled rising and sinking is a positive feedback loop in
that as it sinks, the pressure goes up, the hull compresses and takes
up less water volume, becomes less buoyant, and the rate of sinking
becomes faster and faster. Not good. If it's initially positive
buoyant, as it rises, the rate of ascent becomes faster and faster.
Not nearly as bad as sinking faster and faster.

Steve

Flying Pig Float Plan
 

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:57:51 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:51:24 -0500, Michael Porter
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:




If one has a "float plan" does one also have a "sink plan" or a
"re-float plan"?

Aren't semantics wonderful?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

Semantics are always fun. In this case "float plan" (the term)
developed as an analogue to "flight plan" as required to be filed by
airplane pilots.


Michael Porter Marine Design
mporter at mp-marine dot com
www.mp-marine.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


On the other hand, an airplane makes a flight but a boat makes a
voyage. An airplane flies but a boat doesn't necessarily float - see
submarine, unterseabot, etc.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bpaige125atgmaildotcom)


I've seen boats fly...

Flying Boats?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Well, flying pigs... LOL Sorry.

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