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don June 7th 07 03:29 PM

water-logged flotation
 
Have a 21', center console, fiberglass sport fisher, made in 1972.
Another post mentioned a chemical way of removing foam, and others
mention cutting out the old foam. Cutting doesn't seem practical, the
entire deck would have to have access holes cut all over. Anyone know
what chemical method is available, if any? Many thanks, don.


Terry K June 7th 07 06:40 PM

water-logged flotation
 
On Jun 7, 11:29 am, don wrote:
Have a 21', center console, fiberglass sport fisher, made in 1972.
Another post mentioned a chemical way of removing foam, and others
mention cutting out the old foam. Cutting doesn't seem practical, the
entire deck would have to have access holes cut all over. Anyone know
what chemical method is available, if any? Many thanks, don.



Acetone. Gallons and gallons. Rocking and rolling the boat. Whatcha
gonna do with the effluent?

Terry K


[email protected] June 8th 07 03:55 PM

water-logged flotation
 
On Jun 7, 10:29 am, don wrote:
Have a 21', center console, fiberglass sport fisher, made in 1972.
Another post mentioned a chemical way of removing foam, and others
mention cutting out the old foam. Cutting doesn't seem practical, the
entire deck would have to have access holes cut all over. Anyone know
what chemical method is available, if any? Many thanks, don.


Probably be cheaper and easier to get ahold of another old hull, that
is dry. They are all over the place, many with trailers and even
decent motors. Once the foam is soaked, short of a skin strip and
rebuild, the tool (boat) has probably outlived it's time. Like any
tool, maybe if it had been better tended in it's younger years it
might still serve you, but this old boat probably won't. Just my
opinion.


OldNick June 8th 07 05:22 PM

water-logged flotation
 
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:40:49 -0700, Terry K
wrote stuff
and I replied:

This also pends on the foam. Urethane will not GID about acetone
IIRC.

However, WTG with effluent would be let it sit till acetone evaporates
and then get rid o remaining "stuff" at the tip...no worse than a
bunch of foam.
Acetone. Gallons and ginallons. Rocking and rolling the boat. Whatcha
gonna do with the effluent?

Terry K


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OldNick June 8th 07 05:24 PM

water-logged flotation
 
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 07:55:06 -0700,
wrote stuff
and I replied:
Which is another (not completeoy way OTB) way pf loooking atg the
problem.

Soaked/failed cores are a bitch.
Probably be cheaper and easier to get ahold of another old hull, that
is dry. They are all over the place, many with trailers and even
decent motors. Once the foam is soaked, short of a skin strip and
rebuild, the tool (boat) has probably outlived it's time. Like any
tool, maybe if it had been better tended in it's younger years it
might still serve you, but this old boat probably won't. Just my
opinion.


Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

Steve Lusardi June 9th 07 07:53 AM

water-logged flotation
 
Urethane foam is a potential problem in marine use as it is not closed cell
and therefore will, over time, absorb liquids. It is popular because of its
resistance to acetone and other like solvents. Unfortunately, there is no
way, other than mechanical removal, to get rid of it. As your boat is small,
I suggest using a sawsall or a large flex disc, remove the entire deck. Turn
it upside down and remove the inner liner and foam to destruction. Repair
the offending water leaks, which caused the problem in the first place. Then
refoam upside down leaving the deck margin clear for rebonding to the hull.
After the foam is sanded straight to the original dimensions, then layup the
new inner hull liner on top. Rebond the deck to hull margin, patch the bond
space at the deck margin with additional foam and reglass the hull liner on
top in the previous manner. The job will take 60 days part-time.
Steve
PS I have done this on a 21' trihedral hull on the entire port side and it
was very successful. It is not as difficult as it sounds. Keep in mind that
the deck shape will distort under gravity upside down when the foam and
inner liner is removed. So it is important that the deck is fully supported
by shims and wedges before this process begins. In that way, its shape will
be retained.


"don" wrote in message
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Have a 21', center console, fiberglass sport fisher, made in 1972.
Another post mentioned a chemical way of removing foam, and others
mention cutting out the old foam. Cutting doesn't seem practical, the
entire deck would have to have access holes cut all over. Anyone know
what chemical method is available, if any? Many thanks, don.





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