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(PeteCresswell) May 7th 07 06:43 PM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
I'm trying to buy a few more of these things.

I guess it's some sort of shackle... but don't have a clue beyond
that.

Can anybody put a name on it?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/488580505/

or

http://tinyurl.com/229vlr
--
PeteCresswell

David Scheidt May 7th 07 06:54 PM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
:I'm trying to buy a few more of these things.

:I guess it's some sort of shackle... but don't have a clue beyond
:that.

:Can anybody put a name on it?

:http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/488580505/

:or

:http://tinyurl.com/229vlr

A swivel snap hook.

RW Salnick May 7th 07 07:28 PM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
David Scheidt inscribed in red ink for all to know:
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
:I'm trying to buy a few more of these things.

:I guess it's some sort of shackle... but don't have a clue beyond
:that.

:Can anybody put a name on it?

:http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/488580505/

:or

:http://tinyurl.com/229vlr

A swivel snap hook.



Try a tack shop - one for horse/harness gear.

bob

(PeteCresswell) May 7th 07 07:40 PM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
Per David Scheidt:
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
:I'm trying to buy a few more of these things.

:I guess it's some sort of shackle... but don't have a clue beyond
:that.

:Can anybody put a name on it?

:http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/488580505/

:or

:http://tinyurl.com/229vlr

A swivel snap hook.


Now *that* was quick.

Thanks Bob, thanks David.
--
PeteCresswell

(PeteCresswell) May 7th 07 08:12 PM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
Per (PeteCresswell):
A swivel snap hook.


Now *that* was quick.


But it doesn't seem tb working Google-wise.

I get hundreds of hits on 'Swivel Snap Hook' but they're all a
single hook with some sort of bail to keep it from coming
un-hooked - whereas the essential feature of the one I'm looking
for is that there are two hooks that overlap when the thing is
attached to something.

viz:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/488669232/


Likewise "Snap Shackle" returns many, many hits - but none
relevant. The only superficially-similar one is a
trigger-release snap shackle which is sort of the opposite of
what I'm looking for in that it is designed to release quickly
and easily... whereas mine is inherently/intentionally difficult
to release

Only one I found so far is by a Chinese manufacturer who seems to
lump them in with "Snap Hooks": http://tinyurl.com/298jly as in
the large one on the upper right.
--
PeteCresswell

Matt Colie May 7th 07 08:30 PM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
Peter

Try
www.mcmaster.com (McMaster Carr)
enter number
3919T24

They call it a trigger snap.

Matt Colie

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per (PeteCresswell):
A swivel snap hook.

Now *that* was quick.


But it doesn't seem tb working Google-wise.

I get hundreds of hits on 'Swivel Snap Hook' but they're all a
single hook with some sort of bail to keep it from coming
un-hooked - whereas the essential feature of the one I'm looking
for is that there are two hooks that overlap when the thing is
attached to something.

viz:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/488669232/


Likewise "Snap Shackle" returns many, many hits - but none
relevant. The only superficially-similar one is a
trigger-release snap shackle which is sort of the opposite of
what I'm looking for in that it is designed to release quickly
and easily... whereas mine is inherently/intentionally difficult
to release

Only one I found so far is by a Chinese manufacturer who seems to
lump them in with "Snap Hooks": http://tinyurl.com/298jly as in
the large one on the upper right.


David Scheidt May 7th 07 08:40 PM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
:Per (PeteCresswell):
:A swivel snap hook.
:
:Now *that* was quick.

:But it doesn't seem tb working Google-wise.

:I get hundreds of hits on 'Swivel Snap Hook' but they're all a
:single hook with some sort of bail to keep it from coming
:un-hooked - whereas the essential feature of the one I'm looking
:for is that there are two hooks that overlap when the thing is
:attached to something.

:viz:
:http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/488669232/

It's a scissor snap, then. With a swivel. A harness shop should have
them, as well as a large selection of other kinds of snaps.

Stuart Nottingham May 7th 07 08:40 PM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
Try a google on "trigger snap"

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
I'm trying to buy a few more of these things.

I guess it's some sort of shackle... but don't have a clue beyond
that.

Can anybody put a name on it?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/488580505/

or

http://tinyurl.com/229vlr


Jack Rogers May 7th 07 11:36 PM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
In article ,
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote:

I'm trying to buy a few more of these things.

I guess it's some sort of shackle... but don't have a clue beyond
that.

Can anybody put a name on it?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/488580505/

or

http://tinyurl.com/229vlr


Sure looks like a "trigger safety shackle" used to connect an optimist
mainsheet to the boom. optistuff.com or www.apsltd.com should have them.

Jack

Dave W May 8th 07 12:12 AM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
It looks to me like a dangerous design. It would be all too easy for the
load (or part of it) to fall on the moving piece.
Dave

"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to buy a few more of these things.

I guess it's some sort of shackle... but don't have a clue beyond
that.

Can anybody put a name on it?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/488580505/

or

http://tinyurl.com/229vlr
--
PeteCresswell




Jim Conlin May 8th 07 01:27 AM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
I think that's called a 'scissor hook'
I would not consider it reliable."(PeteCresswell)" wrote in
message ...
I'm trying to buy a few more of these things.

I guess it's some sort of shackle... but don't have a clue beyond
that.

Can anybody put a name on it?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262653@N00/488580505/

or

http://tinyurl.com/229vlr
--
PeteCresswell




(PeteCresswell) May 8th 07 02:17 AM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
Per Jim Conlin:
I think that's called a 'scissor hook'
I would not consider it reliable.


Howcome?

Seems like with snap shackles the bail can get squinched over and
the whole thing can turn into just a hook.

The attraction of this thing for me is that once it's attached to
a steel ring and put under load, the scissoring of the
overlapping hooks seems to guarantee that it won't work loose.

All theory of course....
--
PeteCresswell

(PeteCresswell) May 8th 07 02:19 AM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
Per Jim Conlin:
I think that's called a 'scissor hook'


Bingo! "Scissor Hook" consistently returns good hits.

Thanks.
--
PeteCresswell

(PeteCresswell) May 8th 07 02:25 AM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
Per (PeteCresswell):
Bingo! "Scissor Hook" consistently returns good hits.


As does "Trigger Snap"... which seems more specific.
--
PeteCresswell

Jim Conlin May 8th 07 03:13 AM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
Two reasons.
If it's under load, it is held shut, but when shaken, i've seen 'em come undone.
They're not as strong. A scissor hook or a snaphook is not 'closed,' meaning that one side is supported by the other, so it can open if it deforms enough.
A pin shackle, a carabiner or a snapshackle may deform, but won't release untill the material breaks.

"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message ...
Per Jim Conlin:
I think that's called a 'scissor hook'
I would not consider it reliable.


Howcome?

Seems like with snap shackles the bail can get squinched over and
the whole thing can turn into just a hook.

The attraction of this thing for me is that once it's attached to
a steel ring and put under load, the scissoring of the
overlapping hooks seems to guarantee that it won't work loose.

All theory of course....
--
PeteCresswell


[email protected] May 10th 07 04:15 PM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
Definately a Trigger Hook. Depending on what you're using it for
though, search for inglefield clips; they may be better for what you
need.

barry

www.woodworking.wizkids.co.uk
(also Royal Navy)


Bob May 10th 07 07:27 PM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 


I would call it a Widowmaker.

Im not sure why a person would use it on a boat when there are so many
other "safer' choices.
Bob


(PeteCresswell) May 11th 07 01:09 PM

Need Name Of (Shackle?)
 
Per :
Definately a Trigger Hook. Depending on what you're using it for
though, search for inglefield clips; they may be better for what you
need.


Pretty slick: no moving parts....

But my application is for attaching tie down straps to a roof
rack. The trigger snaps work well for that because they can be
easily operated while somebody is standing on tip-toe with arms
fully extended.

Spontaneous release does not seem tb an issue once they're under
tension.

Only caveat I've experienced so far is that it's possible to clip
them on is such a way that they're not fully closed - probably
because the ratio of jaw size to the size of the ring they're
clipping to is too small.
--
PeteCresswell


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