Discoveries (was) Flying Pig Damage Assessment and update
 

"NE Sailboat" wrote:

"While they and the insurance company figure out what to do, the yard
bill clicks along at $500 a week just to sit still on the stands."

That is NUTS! What the hell kind of **** is this?

Call a boat hauler, talk to someone who has a yard ( not boatyard, just a
yard, yard ) and get the boat hauled over to that yard.

If I lived nearby, I would let you use my yard to get that boat back on its
feet.

You really need to get off your A.. and get that boat out of where it is.

This is starting to **** me off.
The Keys, especially in the winter are horribly expensive. They hired
a HS principal for the Marathon HS and he turned the job down because
at the salary they could pay, he couldn't afford housing for his
family. They charge because they can. Key's Boatworks is actually
one of the less expensive ones. It might be cheaper by the month.

In 2003 we paid $18/ft (for the month when you included taxes because
the published rate was $16) for a slip in Marathon which included 2
pumpouts a month and electric was 10 cents/kwh and water was 3 cents a
gallon and there is a minimum monthly charge for both water and
electric. So the basic slip charge was $900 for the month plus water
and electric. And that was 3 years ago.

I can't find out what the costs are in the Marathon Boatyard (in Boot
Key Harbor)

Incidentally, we were going to buy a car (a conch cruiser) but all the
upfront costs (they charge extra if you've not registered a car in
Florida before) added so much to the cost that it was cheaper to rent.
Otherwise, we used bikes. Marathon is pretty flat and easy to ride a
bike in.

Discoveries (was) Flying Pig Damage Assessment and update
 

Skip Gundlach wrote:

While they and the insurance company figure out what to do, the yard
bill clicks along at $500 a week just to sit still on the stands.

I'm beginning to consider a tow back to the yard where we were, as, if
this is to be saved, it nearly certainly won't be by the yard here
doing the work - I have little doubt the policy limits would be
exceeded very quickly, and besides, I expect the insurance company
will require firm quotes, which, to protect themselves, the yard will
make astronomical.

Where we were, we can be stored and worked on for less than 1/6 the
yard cost here. If it turns out to be many months, that's many
thousands difference in what will inevitably be out-of-pocket expenses
- which we currently have no concept of how to find.

And, at least up there, we have some "community" having worked on the
boat for the last three years there.

Skip,

You should strongly consider having the boat
trucked back to your original yard. I've got an
acquaintance here in Texas who has a truck and
special trailer for hauling sailboats. I was
quite surprised how inexpensive it would be to
have our 38' sailboat trucked the three hour drive
from the coast to Austin. Check around to see who
does it in Florida.

If they are charging you $500/week to sit on the
hard, I'd get that sucker out of there the day
after tomorrow!!

A month of that will pay the trucking costs to get
you back where you were, or to some other yard
that is reasonable.

If you don't want to go back to where you were,
here is a link to other Florida yards.

http://www.magicyellow.com/category/...-State_FL.html

Truck it out, get it on blocks somewhere
reasonable, and then figure out what else to do.

Good luck,

Don W.

Flying Pig Damage Assessment and update
 

On Feb 13, 5:04 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:51:44 -0500, (Paul) wrote:
In article , "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

So now the question becomes, can you ever make it strong enough
without that access?

How could you ever know how strong it was?

You'll never reach 100% new as-built strength. But even if you did by some
chance, you'll never be able to KNOW exactly how strong the repair is.
You'll have to take her out in progressivly more stressful conditions and
each time there will be that knot in your gut. Will it take 5' seas? 6'
seas? 7' seas pounding for day after day? Even if it does, you'll not
know if the next wave will be the one. You'll crawl around in the bildge
after each short trip looking for problems that really can't be seen.
This is not what the dream was about.

No, it will never be a Morgan again. Not so that you can trust her just
because there is a long history of Morgans that are built just like her
that have proven themselves countless times. That was why you bought a
Morgan in the first place. The confidence that she'll be able to handle
anything the sea throws at her. That's gone for good now. There will
always be a nagging doubt. You'll live in fear of every new set of
conditions, only trusting her if conditions are just perfect, and they
never are. Over time your love for her will turn to hate just from this
nagging mistrust. You'll find more and more excuses to leave her at the
dock. Afraid each and every time you leave a port.

No, even a horse you dearly love should be put down when the time comes.
Do it swiftly and without regrets.

Good luck,
Paul

Sorry, but that's just plain ignorance talking. The boat could be repaired to be
stronger than original. I rarely "repair" anything on a boat without making it
better than it ever was.

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No doubt BB... with that cracked smiling C&C design defect you have,
you have to fix it better than it ever was.

I bet every C&C owner on earth would agree with you.

Joe