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jace January 8th 07 08:30 AM

Sail outboard motors
 
Has anyone heard of "Sail" outboard motors? Is this a reputable
company and does any have any comments on the engines?

http://sailoutboardsusa.com/_wsn/page3.html

Thanks


Ron Magen January 8th 07 03:03 PM

Sail outboard motors
 
'Jace',

Never heard of them, or have any experience. However, the photos definitely
looked familiar.

I searched the site, especially the 'Dealer' portion, for any hint of
'Country of Manufacture'. While there was no mention of that {I suspected
China}, there was a comment in the text, '. . . Yamaha parts compatible . .
..' .

This tells me that they ARE Yamaha products {most probably}and are simply
'private labeled', with 'SAIL' being an 'International Distribution
Corporation'. Be that as it may, there is STILL the possibility that the
Chinese have 'lifted' the design from Yamaha.

I'd do a bit more research on the 'company' background, if I was serious
about buying the product.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
{Of course, it could just be my inherent paranoia . . .}

"jace" wrote in message
oups.com...
Has anyone heard of "Sail" outboard motors? Is this a reputable
company and does any have any comments on the engines?

http://sailoutboardsusa.com/_wsn/page3.html

Thanks




Paul Oman January 8th 07 05:25 PM

Sail outboard motors
 
jace wrote:

Has anyone heard of "Sail" outboard motors? Is this a reputable
company and does any have any comments on the engines?

http://sailoutboardsusa.com/_wsn/page3.html

Thanks



---------

In my decades of wisdom (and aging) I have learned that when it comes to
things like outboard motors - buy the main brands and models so that 2,
5, 10 years down the line they can be replaced (or sold) instead of
junked because of lack of parts or folks not willing to work on them.
Even if you can get service or parts, it will be a headache....... Not
worth the future hassle in your life.

paul oman

Matt Colie January 8th 07 11:25 PM

Sail outboard motors
 
Jace,

Things like this become available for two reasons, Yamaha is selling
these out as private label (are you old enough to remember Gale) or
Yamaha has licensed a other company to build from its designs.

Gale was a blind line of OMC engines that were always ahead of the main
production because Ole Evenrude used them as a consumer field test. You
got the engine at a lower cost and they often came with features that
were not yet available on the two OMC lines, but there was no promise it
would be as reliable as they main label and OMC dealers would not do
warranty work on them.

Mariner was a line of Japanese built Mercury marine designs. They
started out being some real problem engines, but they also were a whole
lot cheaper than the same HP Mercury.

Good luck at what ever you decide, just come back and tell us what you
did do and how it worked out.

Matt Colie
Lifelong Waterman, Licensed Mariner and Pathological Sailor


jace wrote:

Has anyone heard of "Sail" outboard motors? Is this a reputable
company and does any have any comments on the engines?

http://sailoutboardsusa.com/_wsn/page3.html

Thanks


Jim Conlin January 9th 07 02:37 AM

Sail outboard motors
 
Not too far OT:
What are the other identities for Tohatsu outboards?

"Matt Colie" wrote in message
...
Jace,

Things like this become available for two reasons, Yamaha is selling
these out as private label (are you old enough to remember Gale) or
Yamaha has licensed a other company to build from its designs.

Gale was a blind line of OMC engines that were always ahead of the main
production because Ole Evenrude used them as a consumer field test. You
got the engine at a lower cost and they often came with features that
were not yet available on the two OMC lines, but there was no promise it
would be as reliable as they main label and OMC dealers would not do
warranty work on them.

Mariner was a line of Japanese built Mercury marine designs. They
started out being some real problem engines, but they also were a whole
lot cheaper than the same HP Mercury.

Good luck at what ever you decide, just come back and tell us what you
did do and how it worked out.

Matt Colie
Lifelong Waterman, Licensed Mariner and Pathological Sailor


jace wrote:

Has anyone heard of "Sail" outboard motors? Is this a reputable
company and does any have any comments on the engines?

http://sailoutboardsusa.com/_wsn/page3.html

Thanks




Schöön Martin January 9th 07 08:33 AM

Sail outboard motors
 
Matt Colie writes:

Jace,

Things like this become available for two reasons, Yamaha is selling
these out as private label (are you old enough to remember Gale) or
Yamaha has licensed a other company to build from its designs.

snip
Mariner was a line of Japanese built Mercury marine designs. They
started out being some real problem engines, but they also were a
whole lot cheaper than the same HP Mercury.

I have a 25 year old 5 hp Mariner but under the hood the castings
say Yamaha so I assume that is what it really is. It's rusty and
generally looks awful but works just fine.

Cheers,

--
Martin Schöön

"Problems worthy of attack
prove their worth by hitting back"
Piet Hein

Garland Gray II January 9th 07 10:51 PM

Sail outboard motors
 
I've had a Tohatsu/ Nissan, and now have a Tohatsu/Mercury. I think I've
seen a Tohatsu/Johnson.

"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
. ..
Not too far OT:
What are the other identities for Tohatsu outboards?





Evan Gatehouse2 January 10th 07 06:28 AM

Sail outboard motors
 
Their parts diagrams are pure Yamaha in the 15 HP 2 stroke range.
Others appear to be Honda 4 stroke copies. I'm not sure if they are
just a good Chinese copy or a licensed version. If the latter, I'd
suspect Yamaha would be yelling blue murder because they would impinge
on their existing markets.

Evan Gatehouse


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