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floydo August 21st 06 02:29 AM

hesitant buyer of wooden boat
 
Hello,
I have recently found an old (1960's?) Penn Yan boat, I think
about 21 ft. Under the false floor I can see that the ribs are rotting
as there is 1/2" of standing water in the boat. It looks to me like the
work to restore this and actually float it would be endless, though it
is a real beauty.
I've done some rough carpentry before, but never anything of this
magnitude, and would not know where to start.
I would like to know where I might get some comprehensive
expertise on what this sort of restoration would entail, including the
replacement of ribs and cedar stripping, and other possible
alternatives for making the hull sound.
I haven't bought the boat yet and am now leaning toward walking
away, as the work seems pretty overwhelming.
Thanks for any and all suggestions.
Floydo.


August 21st 06 02:55 AM

hesitant buyer of wooden boat
 
Well, first you have to do a refurbish versus building a new one value
analysis.
If you never own and did repair maintenance on a wooden boat you better to
walk away from it. On repairing a wooden boat you do not use a square of
level. Many time you have to eyeball a piece to make a duplicate and to fit
it.

Replacing a few ribs and plank is not all that bad. But if you have to do
more than that you will require lots of time and cash.
Oak and other wood species are not cheap. You may want to use green wood
and dry it.

Before you do any work you have to wait until the wood is dry. Conversely
if you are doing it for a relaxing therapy you may enjoy every minute of it.
If you are doing it to safe money you may or may not reach your goal. Once
you are finish refurbishing the boat every year you have to maintain it with
about 25 hours of work or more.

"floydo" wrote in message
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Hello,
I have recently found an old (1960's?) Penn Yan boat, I think
about 21 ft. Under the false floor I can see that the ribs are rotting
as there is 1/2" of standing water in the boat. It looks to me like the
work to restore this and actually float it would be endless, though it
is a real beauty.
I've done some rough carpentry before, but never anything of this
magnitude, and would not know where to start.
I would like to know where I might get some comprehensive
expertise on what this sort of restoration would entail, including the
replacement of ribs and cedar stripping, and other possible
alternatives for making the hull sound.
I haven't bought the boat yet and am now leaning toward walking
away, as the work seems pretty overwhelming.
Thanks for any and all suggestions.
Floydo.




floydo August 21st 06 03:16 AM

hesitant buyer of wooden boat
 
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
I have also noticed that, because the boat has been sitting on its
trailer for so long, that it is actually settling on it, to the degree
that the keel has a dent or slight curvature where it is resting on the
front trailer roller, and the hull near the stern is also bowing from
the weight on the rollers.
How scary is that ?(!)


Lew Hodgett August 21st 06 04:46 AM

hesitant buyer of wooden boat
 
floydo wrote:

I haven't bought the boat yet and am now leaning toward walking
away, as the work seems pretty overwhelming.


RUN, don't walk away.

I won't bore you with the details.

Lew

floydo August 21st 06 05:08 AM

hesitant buyer of wooden boat
 
Hehhehhehheh!
Much appreciated, and I think you are right, though it is such a pretty
sight, sitting there in the cow pasture...


Brian August 21st 06 05:13 AM

hesitant buyer of wooden boat
 
If you are still looking at it you aren't running fast enough. Run for your
life and wallet because if you stay longer you won't have either, the boat
will.

Brian



Gordon August 21st 06 05:20 AM

hesitant buyer of wooden boat
 
I agree, run! Rot you can see is bad, what you can't see is worse.
If you're in the PNW, I know of a good wood project with Volvo motor and
outdrive for little money.
G
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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floydo wrote:

I haven't bought the boat yet and am now leaning toward walking
away, as the work seems pretty overwhelming.


RUN, don't walk away.

I won't bore you with the details.

Lew




Peter HK August 21st 06 07:55 AM

hesitant buyer of wooden boat
 

"floydo" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hehhehhehheh!
Much appreciated, and I think you are right, though it is such a pretty
sight, sitting there in the cow pasture...



There is an old Greek saying- "If you have a friend who has become an
enemy...buy him a wooden boat"

Having been there, I agree that the answer is RUN, AS FAST AS YOU CAN.

Peter HK



dadiOH August 21st 06 12:43 PM

hesitant buyer of wooden boat
 
floydo wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
I have also noticed that, because the boat has been sitting on
its trailer for so long, that it is actually settling on it, to the
degree that the keel has a dent or slight curvature where it is
resting on the front trailer roller, and the hull near the stern is
also bowing from the weight on the rollers.
How scary is that ?(!)


A hogged boat such as that can provide you with endless hours of
amusement for many years trying to fix it. At the same time it will
provide an outlet for all your surplus money. Even money that isn't
surplus.


--

dadiOH
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Jim Conlin August 22nd 06 12:34 AM

hesitant buyer of wooden boat
 
The materials costs of fixing such boats may not be enormous, but it can be
lots of hours. Unless you have, or have ready access to, the very fussy
skills needed to restore it, you don't want to be anywhere near that boat.
A less than correct repair job will not add value.

"floydo" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hello,
I have recently found an old (1960's?) Penn Yan boat, I think
about 21 ft. Under the false floor I can see that the ribs are rotting
as there is 1/2" of standing water in the boat. It looks to me like the
work to restore this and actually float it would be endless, though it
is a real beauty.
I've done some rough carpentry before, but never anything of this
magnitude, and would not know where to start.
I would like to know where I might get some comprehensive
expertise on what this sort of restoration would entail, including the
replacement of ribs and cedar stripping, and other possible
alternatives for making the hull sound.
I haven't bought the boat yet and am now leaning toward walking
away, as the work seems pretty overwhelming.
Thanks for any and all suggestions.
Floydo.





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