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Marc Reeves April 4th 06 04:04 PM

Carbon Fiber
 
I'm building a duck hunting layout boat, and it will probably face alot of
dragging across dirt/gravel. I'm thinking of doing the bottom in carbon
fiber.

anyone have a cheap source for carbon fiber?

anyone have a better idea?

Thanks,

Marc



Matt Colie April 4th 06 11:24 PM

Carbon Fiber
 
Marc,

Please do some serious research and consider your
alternatives. Corbon fiber is very light, very strong and
not very abrasion resistant. Kevlar is more abrasion
resistant (as I Recall).

Matt Colie

Marc Reeves wrote:
I'm building a duck hunting layout boat, and it will probably face alot of
dragging across dirt/gravel. I'm thinking of doing the bottom in carbon
fiber.

anyone have a cheap source for carbon fiber?

anyone have a better idea?

Thanks,

Marc



Lew Hodgett April 5th 06 12:14 AM

Carbon Fiber
 

Marc Reeves wrote:

I'm building a duck hunting layout boat, and it will probably face
alot of dragging across dirt/gravel. I'm thinking of doing the bottom
in carbon fiber.

anyone have a cheap source for carbon fiber?

anyone have a better idea?


Think you will find carbon is on allocation and it ain't cheap.

Try double bias glass and epoxy.

Lew

David April 5th 06 12:28 AM

Carbon Fiber
 
With some wood reeinforcememnt
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
k.net...

Marc Reeves wrote:

I'm building a duck hunting layout boat, and it will probably face
alot of dragging across dirt/gravel. I'm thinking of doing the bottom
in carbon fiber.

anyone have a cheap source for carbon fiber?

anyone have a better idea?


Think you will find carbon is on allocation and it ain't cheap.

Try double bias glass and epoxy.

Lew




sportsfan April 5th 06 01:20 AM

Carbon Fiber
 
Matt Colie wrote:
Marc,

Please do some serious research and consider your
alternatives. Corbon fiber is very light, very strong and
not very abrasion resistant. Kevlar is more abrasion
resistant (as I Recall).

Matt Colie


Kevlar for the hull, carbon fiber for the mast, on a sailboat.



Glenn Ashmore April 5th 06 02:55 AM

Carbon Fiber
 
For abrasion resistance carbon is definitely the right material. Neither
is Kevlar. Kevlar fuzzes up and carbon fiber is not flexible enough. Best
to use is a tight weave e-glass cloth and fill the weave with epoxy with a
large addition of powdered graphite. That is a pretty standard bottom for
McKenzie style drift boats.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Marc Reeves" wrote in message
. ..
I'm building a duck hunting layout boat, and it will probably face alot of
dragging across dirt/gravel. I'm thinking of doing the bottom in carbon
fiber.

anyone have a cheap source for carbon fiber?

anyone have a better idea?

Thanks,

Marc




Glenn Ashmore April 5th 06 02:57 AM

Carbon Fiber !! Correction
 
For abrasion resistance carbon is definitely NOT the right material

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:zsFYf.80328$YX1.75232@dukeread06...
For abrasion resistance carbon is definitely the right material. Neither
is Kevlar. Kevlar fuzzes up and carbon fiber is not flexible enough.
Best to use is a tight weave e-glass cloth and fill the weave with epoxy
with a large addition of powdered graphite. That is a pretty standard
bottom for McKenzie style drift boats.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Marc Reeves" wrote in message
. ..
I'm building a duck hunting layout boat, and it will probably face alot
of dragging across dirt/gravel. I'm thinking of doing the bottom in
carbon fiber.

anyone have a cheap source for carbon fiber?

anyone have a better idea?

Thanks,

Marc






Richard Lamb April 5th 06 03:08 AM

Carbon Fiber
 
Marc Reeves wrote:
I'm building a duck hunting layout boat, and it will probably face alot of
dragging across dirt/gravel. I'm thinking of doing the bottom in carbon
fiber.

anyone have a cheap source for carbon fiber?

anyone have a better idea?

Thanks,

Marc



Yeah, use Kevlar instead of carbon.


Marc Reeves April 5th 06 03:22 AM

Carbon Fiber
 
Thanks guys,

I've decided against the carbon fiber and to go, instead, with the
glass/epoxy/graphite option instead



Denny April 5th 06 12:05 PM

Carbon Fiber
 
Did you look at plywood with a glass-epoxy skin... I'm willing to bet
that in comparable panel strengths as compared to an all fiberglass
hull, this will be lighter and cheaper... LOWES has exterior Luan ply,
5.1mm, for roughly ten bucks a sheet... I just finished building a 7.5
foot dink this way and you can pick it up with one hand...

denny


derbyrm April 5th 06 11:49 PM

Carbon Fiber
 
Quite a while back someone from Oz described how they finished the keels and
skegs of their kayaks with epoxy laden with Silicon Carbide, the stuff one
grinds telescope mirrors with. I quote "The ramp doesn't mark our boats.
Our boats mark the ramp."

Roger

http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm
"Marc Reeves" wrote in message
...
Thanks guys,

I've decided against the carbon fiber and to go, instead, with the
glass/epoxy/graphite option instead




Sal's Dad April 6th 06 12:30 PM

Carbon Fiber
 
A thick graphite/epoxy mix, spread liberally on the bottom, is really good.
Put it on as a finish coat, NOT to wet/fill the glass.

Even better, the dories stored on cobble beaches of Grand Manaan Island are
sheathed with UHMW plastic panels. They just slide them down over the
rocks to launch, winch out. The problem is that this stuff doesn't adhere
to anything, and must be mechanically fastened.

Sal's Dad


"Marc Reeves" wrote in message
...
Thanks guys,

I've decided against the carbon fiber and to go, instead, with the
glass/epoxy/graphite option instead




Lew Hodgett April 13th 06 04:11 AM

Carbon Fiber
 
espresso kid wrote:
A double layer of fiberglass and the volume of epoxy needed to
completely "wet" the fiber is VERY heavy.


snip

What glass are you describing?

Lew

Richard J Kinch April 13th 06 10:08 PM

Carbon Fiber
 
espresso kid writes:

VERY heavy


You mean, "dense"?


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