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Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
I have a complete set of drawings and construction details for the ENDURANCE
35 (both strip plank and ferro cement) that I want to sell on eBay but I can't find a catagory where interested builders might find the ad. Most every catgory is for model sail boats or magazine plans. Does anyone have any recommendations.. No, this isn't a shameless advertisement but your welcome to read it as such. :o) Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
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eBay Motors : Parts & Accessories : Manuals & Literature : Boats & Watercraft Steve wrote: I have a complete set of drawings and construction details for the ENDURANCE 35 (both strip plank and ferro cement) that I want to sell on eBay but I can't find a catagory where interested builders might find the ad. Most every catgory is for model sail boats or magazine plans. Does anyone have any recommendations.. No, this isn't a shameless advertisement but your welcome to read it as such. :o) Steve s/v Good Intentions -- Matt Langenfeld JEM Watercraft http://jem.e-boat.net/ |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
Thanks. Those are the two that I noted during my search. They both seem in
appropriate but the only place I found with small boat plans. I think I'm just frustrated that they stuck Boats in the eBay motors main catagory.. I objected strongly when this happened a couple years ago.. Kinda makes me feel like they are sticking all the boats and gear on the back corner of a used car lot. Ya know what I mean?? It seems that there would be enough boats and equipment for sale that they would be entitled to their own main catogory, just like cars and real estate.. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:42:06 -0800, "Steve" wrote:
No, this isn't a shameless advertisement but your welcome to read it as such. :o) Steve So you're saying that it's a shameful advertisement? :-) -m ---- Boatbuilder-friendly small sawmill in Ottawa/Gatineau region. |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:42:06 -0800, "Steve" vaguely
proposed a theory .......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email Beware the legalities of onselling used plans. I have a complete set of drawings and construction details for the ENDURANCE 35 (both strip plank and ferro cement) that I want to sell on eBay but I can't find a catagory where interested builders might find the ad. Most every catgory is for model sail boats or magazine plans. Does anyone have any recommendations.. No, this isn't a shameless advertisement but your welcome to read it as such. :o) Steve s/v Good Intentions ************************************************** ** sorry ..........no I'm not! remove ns from my header address to reply via email Does Bill Gates dream of electronic sheep? |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 07:21:31 GMT, Old Nick
wrote: On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:42:06 -0800, "Steve" vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email Beware the legalities of onselling used plans. Yeah, as far as I know, plans can only legally be used to produce one boat. Additional royalties must be paid for additional boats. I'm sure Steve knows that, though. -m ---- Boatbuilder-friendly small sawmill in Ottawa/Gatineau region. |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
Beware the legalities of onselling used plans. These plans were purchase with license to build one boat. I have never built that boat.. There shouldn't be any problem selling them to anyone else. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
Actually, in looking through all of the paper work and correspondences, I
don't see any License Agreement. Bare in mind that these plans are the result fo a design competition sponsored by the Intenational Amateur Boat Building Society (iabbs). Followed by promotion, sale and distribution. As a submitted entry for the second 'iabbs' design competition this Peter Ibold design would have became the property of 'iabbs'. However, no where on the drawing or 'iabbs' liturature do I see any copyright markings or notes. Therefore I have no reservations about selling these drawing for the purpose of building that 'single' boat. Steve http://hood.hctc.com/~esteve/private...ndurance35.pdf |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
Max Camirand wrote in message . ..
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 07:21:31 GMT, Old Nick wrote: On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:42:06 -0800, "Steve" vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email Beware the legalities of onselling used plans. Unless otherwise noted in the plans, the only legality he has to worry about is weather it meets current (at time of sale, not when drawn) safety regulations. Even selling old plans, you are supposed to adjust or ammend for this purpose, many designers don't, and I don't know what you would do about a book like the Gardner books... Many of those boats are not considered safe by todays standards, but of course these are safe boats for people with brains... Yeah, as far as I know, plans can only legally be used to produce one boat. Additional royalties must be paid for additional boats. I'm sure Steve knows that, though. -m ---- Boatbuilder-friendly small sawmill in Ottawa/Gatineau region. |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
I think category placement only impacts those who actually drill down and
browse by clicking ...an extremely inefficient way of looking through eBay stuff. Most people, including myself, just do a search on keywords ...and *still* have too much to look through. I'm thinking that the boat plans will get found just fine regardless of where they are put. I'm betting 99.9% of the eBay crowd are doing searches just like me. Brian "Steve" wrote in message ... Thanks. Those are the two that I noted during my search. They both seem in appropriate but the only place I found with small boat plans. I think I'm just frustrated that they stuck Boats in the eBay motors main catagory.. I objected strongly when this happened a couple years ago.. Kinda makes me feel like they are sticking all the boats and gear on the back corner of a used car lot. Ya know what I mean?? It seems that there would be enough boats and equipment for sale that they would be entitled to their own main catogory, just like cars and real estate.. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
And many of today's so-called safe boats will kill you quicker than
Gardner's designs. Bureaucrats... who needs them? Brian "Backyard Renegade" wrote in message om... Max Camirand wrote in message . .. On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 07:21:31 GMT, Old Nick wrote: On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:42:06 -0800, "Steve" vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email Beware the legalities of onselling used plans. Unless otherwise noted in the plans, the only legality he has to worry about is weather it meets current (at time of sale, not when drawn) safety regulations. Even selling old plans, you are supposed to adjust or ammend for this purpose, many designers don't, and I don't know what you would do about a book like the Gardner books... Many of those boats are not considered safe by todays standards, but of course these are safe boats for people with brains... Yeah, as far as I know, plans can only legally be used to produce one boat. Additional royalties must be paid for additional boats. I'm sure Steve knows that, though. -m ---- Boatbuilder-friendly small sawmill in Ottawa/Gatineau region. |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
I'm not sure of what safety regulations your talking about.. ABYC, USCG, ??
The boat designs that I have dealt with never got down to such detail. These element are left to the builder wisdom and discretion.. Even if your talking about fastener types or material, that is also left to the builder. Load and passenger capacity plate? Nah! not applicable in a 38 ft boat. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
I also do most of my shopping on ebay using the search engine and have good
results. I will admit I'm often surprised at finding a nice piece of boat gear of nautical cruising guide in some totally unrelated catagory.. However, it is also helpful to have the item in and appropriate catagory to 'catch the eye' of someone just browsing around. I suspect that the majority of impulse purchases are from browsing rather than searching.. I'm talking about the guy who never knew he was looking for a set of sail boat plans.. ;o) Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
I think that as a designer, the only safety regs you have to follow are the
USCG rules, which have less to do with boat design than they have to do with systems and things like loading and powering. If you're a manufacturer, then following ABYC guidelines are a good idea since there is a lot of court precedent that says if you don't, then you chose to be liable. As anybody with a boat, buying or building or owning, following ABYC guidelines makes good sense since most if not all were derived from real-life issues and experiences. Anyway, this is how I understand it. I'd love to be corrected if I'm wrong... Brian "Steve" wrote in message ... I'm not sure of what safety regulations your talking about.. ABYC, USCG, ?? The boat designs that I have dealt with never got down to such detail. These element are left to the builder wisdom and discretion.. Even if your talking about fastener types or material, that is also left to the builder. Load and passenger capacity plate? Nah! not applicable in a 38 ft boat. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
"Steve" wrote in message ...
I'm not sure of what safety regulations your talking about.. ABYC, USCG, ?? The boat designs that I have dealt with never got down to such detail. These element are left to the builder wisdom and discretion.. Even if your talking about fastener types or material, that is also left to the builder. Load and passenger capacity plate? Nah! not applicable in a 38 ft boat. Steve s/v Good Intentions Ah, yeah I really was not paying attention, a 38 footer does not need the same stuff as the boats I build. Anyway Steve, how much do you want for the plans? Scotty... |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
"Backyard Renegade" wrote in message om... Ah, yeah I really was not paying attention, a 38 footer does not need the same stuff as the boats I build. Anyway Steve, how much do you want for the plans? Scotty... I sent you a private email to keep the Flames to a minimum. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:53:24 GMT, "Brian D"
wrote: I think category placement only impacts those who actually drill down and browse by clicking ...an extremely inefficient way of looking through eBay stuff. Most people, including myself, just do a search on keywords ...and *still* have too much to look through. I'm thinking that the boat plans will get found just fine regardless of where they are put. I'm betting 99.9% of the eBay crowd are doing searches just like me. Brian I currently have several "boat plans" on ebay in several categories. watching the hit counters would indicate that categories do make a difference. The hit count for similar plans varies dramatically by category. kw |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
kw wrote in message . ..
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:53:24 GMT, "Brian D" wrote: I think category placement only impacts those who actually drill down and browse by clicking ...an extremely inefficient way of looking through eBay stuff. Most people, including myself, just do a search on keywords ...and *still* have too much to look through. I'm thinking that the boat plans will get found just fine regardless of where they are put. I'm betting 99.9% of the eBay crowd are doing searches just like me. Brian Yeah, but several days later, still no bid over 10 bucks for the plans in question. I have seen the study plan and the plan is worth more than that to me, and I will never even build it. I can't see no one else being interested in it, so that tells me that they must not be finding it. Scotty Hey Steve, if you don't get what you want for them, or just wanna pull em' down, send me a note. I'll put em' up on my site, you'll sell em' that's a sweet boat. I currently have several "boat plans" on ebay in several categories. watching the hit counters would indicate that categories do make a difference. The hit count for similar plans varies dramatically by category. kw |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
"Steve" lifted the trapdoor, peered around and wrote:
I sent you a private email to keep the Flames to a minimum. Could you send me on too please, if you still have them :) steveb -- twigg2324 AT yahoo DOT co DOT uk |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
Two things of note concerning eBay: - You can't just pull something off ...it's a contract to sell and sell you must, unless you get zero bidders. Same thing with placing a bid. It's a contract to buy and you can't change your mind unless the seller volunteers to let you off the hook. Go bid what you think a fair price is. - You often never see a price get touched, other than an opening bid, until the last 30 seconds of the auction. People use sniping software to place last minute bids rather than run the price up while waiting for closing. Think of the few days that something sits there static as an advertising period, and the last 1 minute of the auction as the bidding period (grinz.) I like Auction Sentry and have purchased several brand new items for my boat at half the usual catalog price, or less. Brian D http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass -- My boat project http://www.advantagecomposites.com -- Discounted System Three Resins products "Backyard Renegade" wrote in message om... kw wrote in message . .. On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:53:24 GMT, "Brian D" wrote: I think category placement only impacts those who actually drill down and browse by clicking ...an extremely inefficient way of looking through eBay stuff. Most people, including myself, just do a search on keywords ....and *still* have too much to look through. I'm thinking that the boat plans will get found just fine regardless of where they are put. I'm betting 99.9% of the eBay crowd are doing searches just like me. Brian Yeah, but several days later, still no bid over 10 bucks for the plans in question. I have seen the study plan and the plan is worth more than that to me, and I will never even build it. I can't see no one else being interested in it, so that tells me that they must not be finding it. Scotty Hey Steve, if you don't get what you want for them, or just wanna pull em' down, send me a note. I'll put em' up on my site, you'll sell em' that's a sweet boat. I currently have several "boat plans" on ebay in several categories. watching the hit counters would indicate that categories do make a difference. The hit count for similar plans varies dramatically by category. kw |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
A Bid to buy is binding but eBay allows sellers to cancel auctions, even if
there are bids on the item. Here's their policy: A seller cancelled all bids and ended an auction early eBay policy currently gives any seller the right to cancel all bids and end an auction early. We encourage sellers to post an addition to the description of the auction explaining why they have ended the auction early. However, this sometimes this does not happen. If you have any additional questions about why this happened, we suggest you email the seller and ask them directly. If you think a seller may be abusing this policy, you can report the situation to us through our webform. When sending us an email Be sure to include all relevant auction numbers and User IDs. "Brian D" wrote in message news:qA5bc.58886$JO3.36362@attbi_s04... Two things of note concerning eBay: - You can't just pull something off ...it's a contract to sell and sell you must, unless you get zero bidders. Same thing with placing a bid. It's a contract to buy and you can't change your mind unless the seller volunteers to let you off the hook. Go bid what you think a fair price is. - You often never see a price get touched, other than an opening bid, until the last 30 seconds of the auction. People use sniping software to place last minute bids rather than run the price up while waiting for closing. Think of the few days that something sits there static as an advertising period, and the last 1 minute of the auction as the bidding period (grinz.) I like Auction Sentry and have purchased several brand new items for my boat at half the usual catalog price, or less. Brian D http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass -- My boat project http://www.advantagecomposites.com -- Discounted System Three Resins products "Backyard Renegade" wrote in message om... kw wrote in message . .. On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:53:24 GMT, "Brian D" wrote: I think category placement only impacts those who actually drill down and browse by clicking ...an extremely inefficient way of looking through eBay stuff. Most people, including myself, just do a search on keywords ...and *still* have too much to look through. I'm thinking that the boat plans will get found just fine regardless of where they are put. I'm betting 99.9% of the eBay crowd are doing searches just like me. Brian Yeah, but several days later, still no bid over 10 bucks for the plans in question. I have seen the study plan and the plan is worth more than that to me, and I will never even build it. I can't see no one else being interested in it, so that tells me that they must not be finding it. Scotty Hey Steve, if you don't get what you want for them, or just wanna pull em' down, send me a note. I'll put em' up on my site, you'll sell em' that's a sweet boat. I currently have several "boat plans" on ebay in several categories. watching the hit counters would indicate that categories do make a difference. The hit count for similar plans varies dramatically by category. kw |
Where to Sell Boat Plan Package on eBay?
You CAN pull things off ebay. Been there, done that. Go to my ebay,
selling, and end auction early!!! G "Brian D" wrote in message news:qA5bc.58886$JO3.36362@attbi_s04... Two things of note concerning eBay: - You can't just pull something off ...it's a contract to sell and sell you must, unless you get zero bidders. Same thing with placing a bid. It's a contract to buy and you can't change your mind unless the seller volunteers to let you off the hook. Go bid what you think a fair price is. - You often never see a price get touched, other than an opening bid, until the last 30 seconds of the auction. People use sniping software to place last minute bids rather than run the price up while waiting for closing. Think of the few days that something sits there static as an advertising period, and the last 1 minute of the auction as the bidding period (grinz.) I like Auction Sentry and have purchased several brand new items for my boat at half the usual catalog price, or less. Brian D http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass -- My boat project http://www.advantagecomposites.com -- Discounted System Three Resins products "Backyard Renegade" wrote in message om... kw wrote in message . .. On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:53:24 GMT, "Brian D" wrote: I think category placement only impacts those who actually drill down and browse by clicking ...an extremely inefficient way of looking through eBay stuff. Most people, including myself, just do a search on keywords ...and *still* have too much to look through. I'm thinking that the boat plans will get found just fine regardless of where they are put. I'm betting 99.9% of the eBay crowd are doing searches just like me. Brian Yeah, but several days later, still no bid over 10 bucks for the plans in question. I have seen the study plan and the plan is worth more than that to me, and I will never even build it. I can't see no one else being interested in it, so that tells me that they must not be finding it. Scotty Hey Steve, if you don't get what you want for them, or just wanna pull em' down, send me a note. I'll put em' up on my site, you'll sell em' that's a sweet boat. I currently have several "boat plans" on ebay in several categories. watching the hit counters would indicate that categories do make a difference. The hit count for similar plans varies dramatically by category. kw |
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