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x0054 March 10th 06 02:11 AM

Painting something for the sea?
 
Hi guys,

Sorry, I am not much of a boater. I am however looking to paint a device
that's going to spend alot of time in the water. It's a stainless steal
water probe device. I need to paint the outside of it and I have used
several paints but they end up bubbling up after a wile. I used primer and
all, with no luck, and did send down the thing before painting.

Could any of you recommend a good pain, and were to buy, which I can use
to paint stainless steal? Something that would work well in salt and fresh
water?

Thank you very much,

- Bogdan

norman March 10th 06 02:26 AM

Painting something for the sea?
 

"x0054" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

Sorry, I am not much of a boater. I am however looking to paint a device
that's going to spend alot of time in the water. It's a stainless steal
water probe device. I need to paint the outside of it and I have used
several paints but they end up bubbling up after a wile. I used primer and
all, with no luck, and did send down the thing before painting.

Could any of you recommend a good pain, and were to buy, which I can use
to paint stainless steal? Something


Why would you want to paint stainless?



x0054 March 10th 06 03:48 AM

Painting something for the sea?
 
"norman" wrote in news:rt5Qf.40898$%I.27270@trnddc03:


"x0054" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

Sorry, I am not much of a boater. I am however looking to paint a
device that's going to spend alot of time in the water. It's a
stainless steal water probe device. I need to paint the outside of it
and I have used several paints but they end up bubbling up after a
wile. I used primer and all, with no luck, and did send down the
thing before painting.

Could any of you recommend a good pain, and were to buy, which I can
use to paint stainless steal? Something


Why would you want to paint stainless?




Just for aesthetic reasons. It's been welded on quite a bit.

- Bogdan

norman March 10th 06 03:54 AM

Painting something for the sea?
 

"x0054" wrote in message
...
"norman" wrote in news:rt5Qf.40898$%I.27270@trnddc03:


"x0054" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

Sorry, I am not much of a boater. I am however looking to paint a
device that's going to spend alot of time in the water. It's a
stainless steal water probe device. I need to paint the outside of it
and I have used several paints but they end up bubbling up after a
wile. I used primer and all, with no luck, and did send down the
thing before painting.

Could any of you recommend a good pain, and were to buy, which I can
use to paint stainless steal? Something


Why would you want to paint stainless?




Just for aesthetic reasons. It's been welded on quite a bit.


Is it in a shape that allows buffing and polishing? Painting is the last
thing I'd do.







x0054 March 10th 06 04:59 AM

Painting something for the sea?
 
"norman" wrote in news:zL6Qf.6813$sp4.668@trnddc01:


"x0054" wrote in message
...
"norman" wrote in
news:rt5Qf.40898$%I.27270@trnddc03:


"x0054" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

Sorry, I am not much of a boater. I am however looking to paint a
device that's going to spend alot of time in the water. It's a
stainless steal water probe device. I need to paint the outside of
it and I have used several paints but they end up bubbling up
after a wile. I used primer and all, with no luck, and did send
down the thing before painting.

Could any of you recommend a good pain, and were to buy, which I
can use to paint stainless steal? Something

Why would you want to paint stainless?




Just for aesthetic reasons. It's been welded on quite a bit.


Is it in a shape that allows buffing and polishing? Painting is the
last thing I'd do.


Basically, it needs to be painted. It's a bit to late for polishing.
It's got a huge welded up crack. I really just want to paint the thing.
Any paint recommendations?

- Bogdan

norman March 10th 06 05:11 AM

Painting something for the sea?
 

"x0054" wrote in message
...
"norman" wrote in news:zL6Qf.6813$sp4.668@trnddc01:


"x0054" wrote in message
...
"norman" wrote in
news:rt5Qf.40898$%I.27270@trnddc03:


"x0054" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

Sorry, I am not much of a boater. I am however looking to paint a
device that's going to spend alot of time in the water. It's a
stainless steal water probe device. I need to paint the outside of
it and I have used several paints but they end up bubbling up
after a wile. I used primer and all, with no luck, and did send
down the thing before painting.

Could any of you recommend a good pain, and were to buy, which I
can use to paint stainless steal? Something

Why would you want to paint stainless?




Just for aesthetic reasons. It's been welded on quite a bit.


Is it in a shape that allows buffing and polishing? Painting is the
last thing I'd do.


Basically, it needs to be painted. It's a bit to late for polishing.
It's got a huge welded up crack. I really just want to paint the thing.
Any paint recommendations?


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Brian D March 10th 06 05:36 AM

Painting something for the sea?
 
I could offer you my ex-wife. I mean after all, you said that you're
looking for a good pain, right?

Just kidding. Your paint is probably bubbling because it is not a paint
designed for below the waterline. What you want is a marine non-ablative
'hard' bottom coat that's designed for below the waterline. Paints designed
for above the waterline are completely different than those designed for
below, and you'll invariably get pin-head type bubbles if you use a topsides
paint on underwater items.

He http://www.yachtpaint.com/usa/default.asp

That's the Interlux web site (no affiliation). I point it out because they
have educational guides and what not there. You can call their sales people
and they'll help guide you in the right direction and tell you what
cleaners, primers, and paints to use. Unfortunately, it's hard to find
paint designed for below the waterline that doesn't include antifouling
properties and it's probably going to be tough to find it in sizes less than
a gallon. You'll want to do some web research, 'cuz I know that there are
some non-antifouling bottom coats out there based on epoxy (etc). If you do
some looking around, you should be able to find something. But call
Interlux and get educated, then go looking.

Another brand worth looking at is Ameron: http://www.ameroncoatings.com .
Again, rather than wade through all the technical jargon, give them a call
and let them guide you. Ameron paints are rock-solid-tough.

Be prepared to tell the sales/tech folks what kind of stainless you have and
how long it will stay underwater between dryings, e.g. days, weeks, or
months.

Good luck,
Brian


"x0054" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

Sorry, I am not much of a boater. I am however looking to paint a device
that's going to spend alot of time in the water. It's a stainless steal
water probe device. I need to paint the outside of it and I have used
several paints but they end up bubbling up after a wile. I used primer and
all, with no luck, and did send down the thing before painting.

Could any of you recommend a good pain, and were to buy, which I can use
to paint stainless steal? Something that would work well in salt and fresh
water?

Thank you very much,

- Bogdan




x0054 March 10th 06 05:51 AM

Painting something for the sea?
 
"Brian D" wrote in
:

I could offer you my ex-wife. I mean after all, you said that you're
looking for a good pain, right?

Just kidding. Your paint is probably bubbling because it is not a
paint designed for below the waterline. What you want is a marine
non-ablative 'hard' bottom coat that's designed for below the
waterline. Paints designed for above the waterline are completely
different than those designed for below, and you'll invariably get
pin-head type bubbles if you use a topsides paint on underwater items.

He http://www.yachtpaint.com/usa/default.asp

That's the Interlux web site (no affiliation). I point it out because
they have educational guides and what not there. You can call their
sales people and they'll help guide you in the right direction and
tell you what cleaners, primers, and paints to use. Unfortunately,
it's hard to find paint designed for below the waterline that doesn't
include antifouling properties and it's probably going to be tough to
find it in sizes less than a gallon. You'll want to do some web
research, 'cuz I know that there are some non-antifouling bottom coats
out there based on epoxy (etc). If you do some looking around, you
should be able to find something. But call Interlux and get educated,
then go looking.

Another brand worth looking at is Ameron:
http://www.ameroncoatings.com . Again, rather than wade through all
the technical jargon, give them a call and let them guide you. Ameron
paints are rock-solid-tough.

Be prepared to tell the sales/tech folks what kind of stainless you
have and how long it will stay underwater between dryings, e.g. days,
weeks, or months.

Good luck,
Brian


"x0054" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

Sorry, I am not much of a boater. I am however looking to paint a
device that's going to spend alot of time in the water. It's a
stainless steal water probe device. I need to paint the outside of it
and I have used several paints but they end up bubbling up after a
wile. I used primer and all, with no luck, and did send down the
thing before painting.

Could any of you recommend a good pain, and were to buy, which I can
use to paint stainless steal? Something that would work well in salt
and fresh water?

Thank you very much,

- Bogdan





Thank you very much. That should answer all my questions. Now I just
need to do some research. I appreciate it.

- Bogdan

Keith March 10th 06 08:10 AM

Painting something for the sea?
 
I have yet to find a metal prep that is worth a flip underwater. You
can encapsulate the metal in epoxy first, then paint it, and that will
work fine. You can't just put underwater paint on metal and expect it
to stay on there.


Brian D March 11th 06 05:08 AM

Painting something for the sea?
 
That's why I recommended calling Ameron. Check their web site. They are
very experienced in the painting of large steel tough-duty boats. They'll
have good advice on what to use. I think that if you follow their paint
system instructions that you won't have a problem ...works on big boats all
the time, right? Buy the prep stuff, their primer, their paint and go for
it. Or do it with some other brand, but follow their advice on products and
process.

Brian D



"Keith" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have yet to find a metal prep that is worth a flip underwater. You
can encapsulate the metal in epoxy first, then paint it, and that will
work fine. You can't just put underwater paint on metal and expect it
to stay on there.





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