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Alberto Panno-Peano January 18th 04 09:37 AM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
What do I need for my own nuclear - driven submarine ?

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?

steveb January 18th 04 10:12 AM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
(Alberto Panno-Peano) lifted the trapdoor, peered
around and wrote:

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?


No .... it takes too long to commission the reactor.

You'd be better buying a secondhand one.

Try he

http://www.navy.mil/

steveb

Andre Venter January 18th 04 11:42 AM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
You must be joking of course - this fellow needs one that still works.

"steveb" wrote in message
...
(Alberto Panno-Peano) lifted the trapdoor, peered
around and wrote:

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?


No .... it takes too long to commission the reactor.

You'd be better buying a secondhand one.

Try he

http://www.navy.mil/

steveb




steveb January 18th 04 12:18 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
"Andre Venter" lifted the trapdoor, peered
around and wrote:

You must be joking of course - this fellow needs one that still works.


Well most are choosy about who they sell to ...

he could, I suppose, try his local branch of SubsRus

steveb

Brian Combs January 18th 04 03:31 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
Really it is much easier to just board one and take it over, especially in
Russia. If you have to money you could probably even hire the crew to do it
for you.




Steve January 18th 04 04:42 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 

"Brian Combs" wrote in message
...
Really it is much easier to just board one and take it over, especially in
Russia. If you have to money you could probably even hire the crew to do

it
for you.


Very true.. The Russians are selling their old nuclear subs for scrap or
what ever..

A business friend is in the ship salvage business an purchase on about 4
years ago.. There was so much interest from the public to board and tour it,
he turned it over to a 'foundation' that operates it as a public/waterfront
attraction.. It was in Vancouver BC for a while and is now in Seattle.

But the OP would still have to build a reactor since in both the US and
Russian subs, the reactors have been removed and are in storage..

Steve



Peggie Hall January 18th 04 05:09 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
Alberto Panno-Peano wrote:

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?


Ok, I'll bite (somebody has to, so why not me?)...

WHY do you need a nuclear sub in such a hurry?


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Brian Combs January 18th 04 05:26 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
and do you need it with missiles, torpedoes, and other armament



Boat Decals January 18th 04 08:10 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
If you need decals for the side, I'll be glad to give you a quote! I'd
prefer a sub rowed by a band of idiots personally. Less maintenance.

Alberto Panno-Peano wrote:

What do I need for my own nuclear - driven submarine ?

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?



Rick January 18th 04 08:11 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
Alberto Panno-Peano wrote:

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?


You are in luck, I have a couple of them available at the
moment. I will need a pretty hefty deposit though, cash or
diamonds, contact me to make arrangements.

Delivery can be arranged for a modest fee, cash or diamonds
in advance please. It's not that I don't trust you, but
these nuke boat deals have a way of attracting less than
reliable buyers.

Rick


GeoffC January 18th 04 09:09 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 

"Rick" wrote in message
link.net...

SNIP terms


Delivery can be arranged for a modest fee, cash or diamonds
in advance please. It's not that I don't trust you, but
these nuke boat deals have a way of attracting less than
reliable buyers.


As is the case with most, if not all, WMD's :)


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Geoff



steveb January 18th 04 09:50 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
Rick lifted the trapdoor, peered around and
wrote:

Delivery can be arranged for a modest fee, cash or diamonds
in advance please. It's not that I don't trust you, but
these nuke boat deals have a way of attracting less than
reliable buyers.


I'll ask my Nigerian business partner to email you :)

(it's ok, he's a Govt. officila)

Chicago Paddling-Fishing January 19th 04 11:48 AM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
steveb wrote:
: "Andre Venter" lifted the trapdoor, peered
: around and wrote:

:You must be joking of course - this fellow needs one that still works.

: Well most are choosy about who they sell to ...

: he could, I suppose, try his local branch of SubsRus

Do a search for "Red Gate Woods" in Illinois on your favorite search engine.


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GASNER January 19th 04 05:48 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
Subject: Building a nuclear submarine
From: Chicago Paddling-Fishing
Date: 1/19/04 5:48 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

steveb wrote:
: "Andre Venter" lifted the trapdoor, peered
: around and wrote:

:You must be joking of course - this fellow needs one that still works.

: Well most are choosy about who they sell to ...

: he could, I suppose, try his local branch of SubsRus

Do a search for "Red Gate Woods" in Illinois on your favorite search engine.


That is a beautiful place to visit, but I would not plan on eating my lunch
there.

Earl

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Fred Williams January 22nd 04 05:15 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
The boat you are referring to is an old "Whiskey" class desiel electric
boat. It was one of the main "tools" the USSR used in a futile attempt to
detect and track us "Boomers" in the cold war.

It was fun and very interesting for us to actually get to tour an example
(when in Vancouver) of our old nemisis. Those poor bastar__s lived like
rats in a hole! In the end, we are all brothers, and we felt sorry for
them.

Fred

"Steve" wrote in message
...

"Brian Combs" wrote in message
...
Really it is much easier to just board one and take it over, especially

in
Russia. If you have to money you could probably even hire the crew to

do
it
for you.


Very true.. The Russians are selling their old nuclear subs for scrap or
what ever..

A business friend is in the ship salvage business an purchase on about 4
years ago.. There was so much interest from the public to board and tour

it,
he turned it over to a 'foundation' that operates it as a

public/waterfront
attraction.. It was in Vancouver BC for a while and is now in Seattle.

But the OP would still have to build a reactor since in both the US and
Russian subs, the reactors have been removed and are in storage..

Steve





Fred Williams January 22nd 04 05:17 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
That is "priceless!" :-)

"steveb" wrote in message
...
Rick lifted the trapdoor, peered around and
wrote:

Delivery can be arranged for a modest fee, cash or diamonds
in advance please. It's not that I don't trust you, but
these nuke boat deals have a way of attracting less than
reliable buyers.


I'll ask my Nigerian business partner to email you :)

(it's ok, he's a Govt. officila)




Brian Combs January 23rd 04 05:28 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
so is a nuke



Stephen Baker January 23rd 04 10:11 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
Brian says:

so is a nuke


So is a nuke WHAT? Try quoting a bit, BC, just to help out us poor folks who
aren't psychic.

Tanx ;-)

Steve

Brian Combs January 23rd 04 10:34 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 

"Stephen Baker" wrote in message ...
Brian says:

so is a nuke


So is a nuke WHAT? Try quoting a bit, BC, just to help out us poor folks who
aren't psychic.

Tanx ;-)

Steve


That is "priceless!" :-)

"steveb" wrote in message
...
Rick lifted the trapdoor, peered around and
wrote:

Delivery can be arranged for a modest fee, cash or diamonds
in advance please. It's not that I don't trust you, but
these nuke boat deals have a way of attracting less than
reliable buyers.


I'll ask my Nigerian business partner to email you :)

(it's ok, he's a Govt. officila)


You are absolutely right that I souldn't reply without copying the part I am replying to. I do apologize. I am not psychic either although several have suggested that I am psychotic or something like that.

Brian


Old Nick January 24th 04 09:30 AM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 10:12:52 +0000, steveb vaguely
proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

I know it's fun to feed the troll, and I usually read the replies and
have a laugh. But the OP is beneath comtempt.

"Most men take pictures of their willies with digital cameras"
"My soundcard sounds like my asshole"

Are a couple of other posts on other forums.

(Alberto Panno-Peano) lifted the trapdoor, peered
around and wrote:

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?


No .... it takes too long to commission the reactor.

You'd be better buying a secondhand one.

Try he

http://www.navy.mil/

steveb


************************************************** ** sorry
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

c

Dan January 25th 04 03:22 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
I've enjoyed all the replies to this OP, but somewhat seriously, has any
one built a personal sized SUB, say 4 person cap. With a max dive depth
of say 40 feet or so, this should be do able, no? Maybe I just read too
much of the "Mad Scientists" series growing up.



Alberto Panno-Peano wrote:

What do I need for my own nuclear - driven submarine ?

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?


steveb January 25th 04 03:48 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
"Brian Combs" lifted the trapdoor, peered around and
wrote:

and do you need it with missiles, torpedoes, and other armament


and should it be yellow?

Brian January 25th 04 04:31 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
First off, you will need some "dilithium crystals" for your warp drive. I
believe you can find these in the Vega star system. Oops that's space travel
at light speed,, sorry.

Ok lets try this again.

I'm pretty sure you will need a "flux capacitor". This may be found at
universal studios in Orland, Florida. Last time I tried to borrow it they
got ****ed and locked me up.

Shoot! I did it again,,, that's time travel.

I guess I can't help you since I know nothing of your primitive outdated
nuclear propulsion systems, good luck.


"Alberto Panno-Peano" wrote in message
om...
What do I need for my own nuclear - driven submarine ?

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?




steveb January 25th 04 04:41 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
"Brian" lifted the trapdoor, peered around and
wrote:

I guess I can't help you since I know nothing of your primitive outdated
nuclear propulsion systems, good luck.


Had God meant us to fly ..... he would have given us tickets!

Brian D January 25th 04 09:55 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
You might do further research by contacting the University of Florida. I
know they've built small-capacity submarines in their mechanical engineering
department. It may be a good place to start looking.

Brian

"Dan" wrote in message
...
I've enjoyed all the replies to this OP, but somewhat seriously, has any
one built a personal sized SUB, say 4 person cap. With a max dive depth
of say 40 feet or so, this should be do able, no? Maybe I just read too
much of the "Mad Scientists" series growing up.



Alberto Panno-Peano wrote:

What do I need for my own nuclear - driven submarine ?

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?




Scott Chaffin January 31st 04 05:19 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
Try looking at this site: giffordmarineinc.com These guys are building
their own (non-nuclear) sub.

"Dan" wrote in message
...
I've enjoyed all the replies to this OP, but somewhat seriously, has any
one built a personal sized SUB, say 4 person cap. With a max dive depth
of say 40 feet or so, this should be do able, no? Maybe I just read too
much of the "Mad Scientists" series growing up.



Alberto Panno-Peano wrote:

What do I need for my own nuclear - driven submarine ?

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?




David February 4th 04 10:23 AM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
Quite a few sites out there concerning building a submarine. Unlike boats
there are specific and unique issues pertaining to pressurization/hull
strength, window thickness/materials (the fewer windows the better IMHO but
that will depend
on application), internal oxygen/air/atmosphere.

Do a Google search for terms like: submersible, personalsubmarine. Be
prepared to buy or locate one to three very specialized and expensive texts
pertaining to submarine design/engineering. Its worth it. The topic of
designing and engineering portals for submarines is worth studying very
dilligently and in great detail and for very obvious reasons.

Something along the lines of neutral buyonacy is really what you strive for
in a submarine body. Loosely speaking: "you dont want it to float, you
definitely dont want it to sink". There is a guy who designed a sub that has
a nice emergency recovery system that brings the submarine back to the
surface in the event of an emergency. Look a around a bit for that site. I
believe that he also amassed a great deal of knowldege about portal
engineering.

Nuclear power? Perhaps you might consider the hydbrid of diesel +
thermonuclear power (?) based on Strontium-90 which has a long half-life and
decays into non-radioactive Zirconium. I didnt say that Strontium-90 was
cheap, did I?

See: http://www.psubs.org/

Among other things, maybe look for a reference called "Pressure Vessels".
There should be a link on PSubs.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan"
Newsgroups: rec.boats.building
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:22 AM
Subject: Building a nuclear submarine


I've enjoyed all the replies to this OP, but somewhat seriously, has any
one built a personal sized SUB, say 4 person cap. With a max dive depth
of say 40 feet or so, this should be do able, no? Maybe I just read too
much of the "Mad Scientists" series growing up.



Alberto Panno-Peano wrote:

What do I need for my own nuclear - driven submarine ?

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?



"Dan" wrote in message
...
I've enjoyed all the replies to this OP, but somewhat seriously, has any
one built a personal sized SUB, say 4 person cap. With a max dive depth
of say 40 feet or so, this should be do able, no? Maybe I just read too
much of the "Mad Scientists" series growing up.



Alberto Panno-Peano wrote:

What do I need for my own nuclear - driven submarine ?

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?





Paul Oman February 6th 04 11:43 AM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
I understand the better models have a 'hand crank' mechanism attached to the
prop to serve as a back-up in case of battery failure or reactor melt-down!


Also, the lead underpants is another good option when ordering!

paul





Quite a few sites out there concerning building a submarine. Unlike boats
there are specific and unique issues pertaining to pressurization/hull
strength, window thickness/materials (the fewer windows the better IMHO but
that will depend
on application), internal oxygen/air/atmosphere.

Do a Google search for terms like: submersible, personalsubmarine. Be
prepared to buy or locate one to three very specialized and expensive texts
pertaining to submarine design/engineering. Its worth it. The topic of
designing and engineering portals for submarines is worth studying very
dilligently and in great detail and for very obvious reasons.

Something along the lines of neutral buyonacy is really what you strive for
in a submarine body. Loosely speaking: "you dont want it to float, you
definitely dont want it to sink". There is a guy who designed a sub that has
a nice emergency recovery system that brings the submarine back to the
surface in the event of an emergency. Look a around a bit for that site. I
believe that he also amassed a great deal of knowldege about portal
engineering.

Nuclear power? Perhaps you might consider the hydbrid of diesel +
thermonuclear power (?) based on Strontium-90 which has a long half-life and
decays into non-radioactive Zirconium. I didnt say that Strontium-90 was
cheap, did I?

See: http://www.psubs.org/

Among other things, maybe look for a reference called "Pressure Vessels".
There should be a link on PSubs.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan"
Newsgroups: rec.boats.building
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:22 AM
Subject: Building a nuclear submarine

I've enjoyed all the replies to this OP, but somewhat seriously, has any
one built a personal sized SUB, say 4 person cap. With a max dive depth
of say 40 feet or so, this should be do able, no? Maybe I just read too
much of the "Mad Scientists" series growing up.



Alberto Panno-Peano wrote:

What do I need for my own nuclear - driven submarine ?

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?



"Dan" wrote in message
...
I've enjoyed all the replies to this OP, but somewhat seriously, has any
one built a personal sized SUB, say 4 person cap. With a max dive depth
of say 40 feet or so, this should be do able, no? Maybe I just read too
much of the "Mad Scientists" series growing up.



Alberto Panno-Peano wrote:

What do I need for my own nuclear - driven submarine ?

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?






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Barlovento February 22nd 04 04:49 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/915059.stm

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:22:33 GMT, Dan wrote:

I've enjoyed all the replies to this OP, but somewhat seriously, has any
one built a personal sized SUB, say 4 person cap. With a max dive depth
of say 40 feet or so, this should be do able, no? Maybe I just read too
much of the "Mad Scientists" series growing up.



Alberto Panno-Peano wrote:

What do I need for my own nuclear - driven submarine ?

I need this very fast, can I build one in 6-8 weeks ?



Stephen Baker February 22nd 04 09:34 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
I've enjoyed all the replies to this OP, but somewhat seriously, has any
one built a personal sized SUB, say 4 person cap. With a max dive depth
of say 40 feet or so, this should be do able, no?


Try this one. ;-)

http://www.ussubs.com/Luxury_folder/lux.phoenix.html

Steve
Stephen C. Baker - Yacht Designer
http://members.aol.com/SailDesign/pr...cbweb/home.htm

Brian Combs February 22nd 04 10:25 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
Now the Phoenix is a class act. And at only $78M it is a bargain. Beware
of the advertising though, I know from experience that at depths greater
than 450ft it is still possible to enjoy the gentle rolls of a nice north
Pacific storm, say 30+ degrees each way. You may ride out a bit of a blow
but the bad ones will get you anyway.

Brian



Richard Lamb February 23rd 04 02:39 AM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
I did a short stint with Perry Oceanographics (as a programmer).

I may still have some of the drawings for one of the subs.

:)

Richard

Paul Oman February 24th 04 01:40 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
I believe Michael Jackson now owns the plans (and perhaps the real
thing) to the Fab 4's Yellow Submarine and would probably consider
selling, although I don't know if it is nuclear powered (have heard
it was converted to a 'little boys' engine system).

paul



Richard Lamb wrote:

I did a short stint with Perry Oceanographics (as a programmer).

I may still have some of the drawings for one of the subs.

:)

Richard







Fred Williams March 2nd 04 10:36 PM

Building a nuclear submarine
 
We were at 400 ft and taking 40+ degree rolls in the "Med", long, long ago
in the "Cold War.".

"Brian Combs" wrote in message
...
Now the Phoenix is a class act. And at only $78M it is a bargain. Beware
of the advertising though, I know from experience that at depths greater
than 450ft it is still possible to enjoy the gentle rolls of a nice north
Pacific storm, say 30+ degrees each way. You may ride out a bit of a blow
but the bad ones will get you anyway.

Brian






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