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Tom Best December 2nd 03 01:01 AM

fish camp light bulb failure
 
I would appreciate some help with a 12 volt question.

I set up a 7 light long string of 12 volt, 40 watt bulbs on a strand
of 12 guage, outdoor lighting, copper wire. The bulbs and bases were
standard Edison screw base types. The lights were connected to a 300
watt DC converter made for outdoor yard lights. In theory, I would
like to take the same string (with lower wattage bulbs) on sailing
trips.

In 4 days, 6 of the seven lights have burned out. One light continues
to burn at normal brightness.

Any ideas or comments on these failures apprecitated.

Thanks
Tom

Clams Canino December 2nd 03 01:07 AM

fish camp light bulb failure
 
Overvoltage is my guess....... measure the voltage on any one of the bulbs.

-W

"Tom Best" wrote in message
om...
I would appreciate some help with a 12 volt question.

I set up a 7 light long string of 12 volt, 40 watt bulbs on a strand
of 12 guage, outdoor lighting, copper wire. The bulbs and bases were
standard Edison screw base types. The lights were connected to a 300
watt DC converter made for outdoor yard lights. In theory, I would
like to take the same string (with lower wattage bulbs) on sailing
trips.

In 4 days, 6 of the seven lights have burned out. One light continues
to burn at normal brightness.

Any ideas or comments on these failures apprecitated.

Thanks
Tom




Larry December 2nd 03 01:13 AM

fish camp light bulb failure
 
Any ideas or comments on these failures appreciated.
In the time I've spent as an Aviation Electrician, I've seen incandescent
bulbs fail for many reasons including: vibration, exposure to temperature
extremes, poor quality construction, over voltage, and "hot spots" caused by
fingerprints on the globe.

If you can eliminate most (or all) of these causes, I'd expect your bulb
life to increase.

My 2¢


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"Tom Best" wrote in message
om...
I would appreciate some help with a 12 volt question.

I set up a 7 light long string of 12 volt, 40 watt bulbs on a strand
of 12 guage, outdoor lighting, copper wire. The bulbs and bases were
standard Edison screw base types. The lights were connected to a 300
watt DC converter made for outdoor yard lights. In theory, I would
like to take the same string (with lower wattage bulbs) on sailing
trips.

In 4 days, 6 of the seven lights have burned out. One light continues
to burn at normal brightness.

Any ideas or comments on these failures apprecitated.

Thanks
Tom




jean December 2nd 03 02:16 AM

fish camp light bulb failure(info)
 
TOM make sure that your circuit is a parrallel one, not in series.Also you
cannot reduce the watt of the bulb because you will reduce the resistance of
your circuit and let pass to much current on the same bulb (burning action)


"Tom Best" a écrit dans le message de
om...
I would appreciate some help with a 12 volt question.

I set up a 7 light long string of 12 volt, 40 watt bulbs on a strand
of 12 guage, outdoor lighting, copper wire. The bulbs and bases were
standard Edison screw base types. The lights were connected to a 300
watt DC converter made for outdoor yard lights. In theory, I would
like to take the same string (with lower wattage bulbs) on sailing
trips.

In 4 days, 6 of the seven lights have burned out. One light continues
to burn at normal brightness.

Any ideas or comments on these failures apprecitated.

Thanks
Tom




Mark Little December 2nd 03 03:16 AM

fish camp light bulb failure(info)
 
"jean" wrote in message
...
TOM make sure that your circuit is a parrallel one, not in series.Also you
cannot reduce the watt of the bulb because you will reduce the resistance

of
your circuit and let pass to much current on the same bulb (burning

action)

This is incorrect. If you reduce the wattage of the globe, the resistance
will INCREASE as it will draw LESS current at the same voltage to get the
lower power.
( Power = Voltage*Voltage/Resistance). As the bulbs progressively failed, it
is obvious that they must be in parallel as they would all go out if any one
failed in a series circuit.

regards,
Mark




Calif Bill December 2nd 03 03:18 AM

fish camp light bulb failure
 
Check the voltage. My Malibu is 12V AC from what I remember.

"Tom Best" wrote in message
om...
I would appreciate some help with a 12 volt question.

I set up a 7 light long string of 12 volt, 40 watt bulbs on a strand
of 12 guage, outdoor lighting, copper wire. The bulbs and bases were
standard Edison screw base types. The lights were connected to a 300
watt DC converter made for outdoor yard lights. In theory, I would
like to take the same string (with lower wattage bulbs) on sailing
trips.

In 4 days, 6 of the seven lights have burned out. One light continues
to burn at normal brightness.

Any ideas or comments on these failures apprecitated.

Thanks
Tom




Leanne December 2nd 03 03:33 AM

fish camp light bulb failure
 

"Tom Best" wrote in message
om...
I would appreciate some help with a 12 volt question.


I would think it would be from excessive vibration if they were
originally for fixed service in the yard.

Leanne



Terry December 2nd 03 05:35 AM

fish camp light bulb failure(info)
 
jean wrote:

TOM make sure that your circuit is a parrallel one, not in series.Also you
cannot reduce the watt of the bulb because you will reduce the resistance of
your circuit and let pass to much current on the same bulb (burning action)


jean;
1) The original poster stated that he had seven (7) bulbs "in
parallel", so that's not an issue.
2) Do not understand your "reduce the watt of the bulb"
statement. It appears wrong. If you reduce the wattage LESS
current will flow (Volts x current = watts). And the resistance
will INCREASE. Basic Ohms Law!
Example: 12 volts x 1 amp = 12 watts. Resistance of lamp is
Volts/Amp = 12/1 = 12 ohms.
Example: 12 volts x 2 amps = 24 watts. Resistance of lamp is
.......12/2 = 6 ohms.
Thus: Twice the resistance results in half the wattage.

JimL December 2nd 03 05:41 AM

fish camp light bulb failure(info)
 
jean,

I'm confused on what you're saying. 40 watts is the current limit
for the bulb, period! Unless of course the voltage is too high
thereby forcing more current through. From what I see of these
outdoor converters, the voltage output is constant. Manufacturers
just don't want you to overdrive them with more wattage of bulbs
than the trancformer can put out.

-JimL

jean wrote:
TOM make sure that your circuit is a parrallel one, not in series.Also you
cannot reduce the watt of the bulb because you will reduce the resistance of
your circuit and let pass to much current on the same bulb (burning action)


"Tom Best" a écrit dans le message de
om...

I would appreciate some help with a 12 volt question.

I set up a 7 light long string of 12 volt, 40 watt bulbs on a strand
of 12 guage, outdoor lighting, copper wire. The bulbs and bases were
standard Edison screw base types. The lights were connected to a 300
watt DC converter made for outdoor yard lights. In theory, I would
like to take the same string (with lower wattage bulbs) on sailing
trips.

In 4 days, 6 of the seven lights have burned out. One light continues
to burn at normal brightness.

Any ideas or comments on these failures apprecitated.

Thanks
Tom






BruceM December 2nd 03 06:38 AM

fish camp light bulb failure
 
Yeah, vibration, knocking etc.
In Australia our main type of globes are not screw in but bayonet. (push in
& 1/4 turn).
Most globes here for household type use only have 3 supports holding the
element up. It is possible to get ones that have 7 or 8 supports & these can
take much more rough treatment. They are designed for "trouble lights" for
mechanics etc.
Another recent type of globe has just recently taken over the trucking scene
here in Aussie is a type of LED light but I doubt if it would be bright
enough for your purposes. They last "forever" on truck side light useage.
BruceM


"Leanne" wrote in message
...

"Tom Best" wrote in message
om...
I would appreciate some help with a 12 volt question.


I would think it would be from excessive vibration if they were
originally for fixed service in the yard.

Leanne






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